I’m sure it’s not the only reason, given the mess Infinite is, but especially with all this hyped up improved scripting did 343 just wanna get there BR in with mtx before players just make it themselves again?
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Wait what? When did you come to the conclusion BR would be monetized. Why are you complaining about something that hasn’t even happened yet.
Honestly, I think they intended to have Co-Op and Forge at launch but had to scale everything back.
What we see so far is that they are trying to do CoD and Destiny at the same time. Simultaneously do big single player expansions, as well as have a multiplayer season story and a YouTuber just suggested we will be getting Spartan Ops style missions on the multiplayer maps. Which is amazing. But this all sounds very ambitious and difficult to pull off if you haven’t got the basics done.
But yeah Forge has been delayed as opposed to held back. That’s due to massive technical challenges that are really hurting the game. The plan was to ship a stable platform onto which they could just heap content.
I think that’s just too much of a stretch to think it as such. But say Forge is monetized, how on earth are they gonna do it? Spend real life 500 bucks to build a map? Spend 10 bucks to buy a new girder? That’s just asinine in design and that kinda thing will explode before even taking off.
It’s more likely this is what they have in plan:
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BR, Invasion and Firefight will all use the same Open World system, aka Forge.
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Forgers making new maps and modes beyond BR, Invasion and Firefight will increase the lifespan of Infinite and Tatanka exponentially because it’s just free maps being made by the community, shared by the community and managed by the community without 343 or CA needing to make new maps all the time. (in this case it’s a net positive because 343 sucks at making maps in the first place.)
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Arena mode and maps will continue to be handled by 343 alongside Forgers also making Arena maps.
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Arena will be a scale for 4v4 Arena and BTB, while Open World will be a scale for BR, Invasion and Firefight.
Just me speculating though.
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I was thinking more of some sort of extra mtx for the BR mode, maybe bringing back req packs for silly weapon variants in it again or something. I think they’ll make and sell asset packs for forge as well, though. Don’t need to have them to play on them, but you do to use them in forge.
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Not if Forge is monetized, WHEN Forge is monetized think the armor shop with Forge blocks.
Which is asinine in concept. How is anyone gonna defend the choice of selling 5 different types of girders. The forgers will all leave immediately. There’s always a superior product in MCC.
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No, you don’t know that. Why is this thread complaining about something that hasn’t happened? If it does, fair point. But let’s just wait for it until then.
I mean given how 343 has done nothing but prioritize monetization with Infinite, it’s pretty obvious they will at least attempt to monetize Forge.
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They haven’t monetized anything gameplay related, so I disagree. Either way, the fault of this argument can be easily seen by quoting spongebob.
“He poisoned our water supply, burned our crops and delivered a plague onto our houses!”
“He did?!”
“No, but are we gonna wait around until he does?!”
You see? Wait until after they add monetization to complain. Theorising that they will do it and complaining about the theory happening is just foolish.
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I said on the old forum that I thought a Halo Battle Royale was inevitable at some point. I never fell for the only BR we’re working on tweet. Sure, 343i are not working on the Battle Royale, but they must have known it was coming.
As for holding back forge for it ? No, I think forge was not ready, just like co op. I’ll admit that I’m curious about “why” it’s not ready, but like others I’m worried about what they might try to do with it.
That’s a lot of tinfoil just for a hat, you only needed one sheet…
Seriously though, I doubt it. Forge competing with an Arena mode for public attention would be the greatest thing since sliced bread for Halo Infinite’s content situation, and it isn’t going to be like that only because development is taking forever.
It will be themed asset packs. Covenent assets, flood assets, literally anything beyond the basic forerunner themed blocks and prefabs and assortment of random items forge generally comes with. Users will be allowed to play on maps using these assets if they were already made, but they cost money to use in forge yourself.
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No, definitely not. If you know anything about the new Forge, it is definitely not being held back on purpose.
It’s just… Huge. A step away from dev tools.
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At this rate 343 works in mysterious ways