Yea I’m not saying people should be happy to just swallow whatever we’re given. My point being, this forum gets toxic, rather easily, and much too frequently. In one hand you have people openly and blatantly attacking the developers for every little thing and then turning around and demanding more communication, almost as if they’re not listening to hear or understand but to just retaliate.
Communication would be great, but given the reaction they get when they do try to do so, I understand why they’ve been mostly silent. I feel if the overall hostility of these forums calmed a bit we would get more communication
I certainly agree with you that the way some people have been voicing their feedback has been overly dramatic or rude and I don’t condone that especially when people get abusive, you can not like what 343 have done or the decisions they’ve made and you can voice that but you don’t have to be abusive about it.
Ultimately though, if you know you’re releasing something that “was not going to be inherently satisfying to most of our players” then you’re not doing yourselves any favours.
Even if 343 had released the perfect Halo game there would still be some people being toxic and criticising them, sadly that’s unavoidable, but they knew what they were releasing was going to piss a lot of their customers off and that’s on them.
And I completely agree, a little bit longer in the studio would have done wonders if it needs work out of the gate. And you definitely hit the nail on the head about the perfect halo game, honestly, some people just want to watch the world burn.
Let’s take the most recent communication. You cannot praise them for doing the bare minimum. They told us they are fixing BTB after they broke it and refused to change out the challenge system that locked challenges into BTB. They are quite literally doing the bare minimum to fix and already broken game.
If I’m remembering it right they said they were going to try to hotfix it because they were going on holiday break and would try to solve the issue after the holidays (Jan-Feb) not that they wouldn’t fix it but that the actual changes wouldn’t roll out until 2022
It doesn’t matter if sketch opened his mouth. Doesn’t matter how people responded to it. What matters is ending corp speak as a whole. Stop with non answers. The half answers. Give us the raw truth. Just say it’s not ready. Just say it’s early access.
Keep FTP for Pc users and let them play each other…
…integrate the campaign and Multiplayer for Xbox users and let us pay the 60/80 dollars for a full game release next year.
I bought an Xbox for the same reason I buy apple products… closed/secure/products and services.
*some of the sentiments in this statement are opinion only but also can be discriminatory towards PC users. However Pc Users is not a protected characteristic - so I down care.
The biggest confusion for me talking about communication and keeping on topic - is saying that this game is free to play when 2/3s of the game is 60 dollars. Storeplussixtydollars = lots of money.
edit: Halo infinite ftp multiplayer
Halo ce/2/3/4/5 were all cheaper to play than Halo infinite.
F does not equal free.
Basically halo fans are been … in infinite. - ftp caters for non halo fans who are being introduced into the series.
The environment here is not bad. After all, this is official territory.
Consumers have the right to evaluate.
Maybe the production team needs to communicate more with customers and show a positive attitude.
When gentle voices are ignored, fierce verbal attacks are inevitable.
I feel it’s not the communication of the developers that are the problem that’s causing the reaction and the negativity. Instead its what’s being said/has been said vs the reality.
So like for example, when sk7ch said in his update about an anti cheat fix and other things, it’s that vagueness thats rubbing people raw right now. Because players were expecting one thing and recieved another, players are bitter and that’s hard to change without meticulously choosing what your communicating.
On the flip side of that, 343 might be doing exactly that, and being intentionally vague as Sean W. Pointed out, 343 clearly does not have a plan post launch, otherwise they would have given us that, thus being intentionally vague to try and portray the image that everything is ok, thus making player more bitter with that exact communication because everything is obviously not.
Interesting, do you think how the CM presented himself might have had anything to do with it, and using the excuse “they need the money”? (All businesses need money,) 343 isn’t special. It sounds like to me that they need to get their own house in order.
Or, how about all the lies 343 told over the years and what was to be expected when the game released?
I agree communication is a two-way street and that that needs to happen, but how do you trust people that lie?
They backed themselves into this corner and now they’re scrambling hard to bandaid the stab wounds inflicted by their own incompetence; or maybe they’re still on vacation while Halo Lite bleeds out; or not fully aware, so “Here’s another $20 micros-transaction, shut up, purchase, and shut up.”
They had no business dabbling with open-world and F2P ideas for a major installment in the series. This is their third strike! Have they not learned from their past games that their wild, half-baked ideas often divide their fanbase? I suppose not, because with each game it seems like it’s a new 343 at bat!
I’d demand for their head but they probably offed it themselves and are now running around aimlessly trying to resell it for $19.99; then flail around some more until the last bit of life in Halo Lite dies out!
When 90% of the community that cares enough to give feedback tells you to change something, you should probably do it. And yet the game still lacks player collision with teammates and enemy collision is still messed up.
I really am surprised they’ve been silent on this. They’re just pretending 90% of their players have nothing to say of importance to them. Continues to demonstrate contempt for their playerbase.
This may have become their corporate culture.
Over the years, there have been several changes at the leadership of 343, but we still get the same thing.
343 Unlike dice today, they don’t have a huge staff turnover and intern problem.
I can only think that Microsoft has been too tolerant of them, allowing them to have such a corporate culture.
