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Not unless Sprint and ADS goes. Then the game would be good
And dont bring up the smart scope not being a penalty because it is. And if you try saying that the other Halos had it you are wrong.
Halo CE
http://xboxclips.com/Teh%20MooMoo/369ef613-dd9c-4a83-b44d-fa8ce1ace3e2/embed
Halo 2
http://xboxclips.com/Teh%20MooMoo/8d7bab4b-1774-4f61-b312-2778a110be3d/embed
Halo 3
http://xboxclips.com/Teh%20MooMoo/f9765746-923a-4659-8f81-ad215f044d3a/embed
Will the public like it? I’m not sure.
Halo 4 tried to copy CoD and it failed.
On the flip side, Titanfall was fairly unique when it came out.
Yet I’ve heard numerous people claim that it’s dead now, even though it’s not even a year old.
Now both Halo and CoD are drawing heavy inspiration from a dead game, as well as a bit from each other.
I’ve seen people shout “the market wants this” and others shout “no, you’re dumb, the market wants THIS”.
And I’ve seen both those people proven wrong, or ignore evidence that proves them wrong.
I’m having a hard time analyzing just what it is the market wants. There’s no easy pattern to follow. This is why companies hire professionals to analyze it for them.
I can only accurately describe my own thoughts.
My not-very-solid prediction though: Halo 5 will share the same fate as most other FPS’s now do. It will be popular at first, then after a few months it will die a quick death. CoD has a strangle hold on the market and it’s just not letting go.
> Halo 3 in my opinion was the greatest halo game ever. By far I’ve had the most fun on this game than any other halo game and this could be true for a lot of people. I think 343 needs to build off of halo 3 instead of going on the direction that halo reach and and halo 4 set.
It’s crucial that we explain why we loved Halo 3 up to the minutest detail, and what exactly we want evolved.
If all we do is say “we love Halo 3 because of identical starts and map pickups”, we end up with games like Halo 5, where those two things are basically the only similarity. Then people assume those are the only similarities that actually matter to us.
Mmm… Not, Halo kicked out a lot of his Hardcore players with H4, and casuals dont play a game day after day, just until the next AAA launch.
Now nobody remember this forums “H4 isnt CoD,leave or adapt, leave or adapt…” where are they now? well, 343 yes do it but is too late.
Obviously we need know how is H5, Titanfall 2, Battefield 5, Destiny 2, etc… but i dont see Halo rising, a top game but not the king again.
A forgettable, generic shooter.
i think halo 5 is the first BIG next/nowgen shooter. really surprised me in a good way while playing.
feels new and familiar at the same time.
everything suits soooo fine. (wouldnt miss the air stomp tho)
so nice movement, and classy halo playstyle is still there: nade gameplay, 2vs1 tactics, mapcontrol. of course a bit less mapcontrol and more gunplay because of the rise of speed but it fits so nice
i love the smooth graphics, cant wait for a 900p +
also biiiiig props for the sound. halo never sounded so good. had to turn it up.
some negative points i had is only tweaking weapons so far.
btw sounds like many people dont get the difference betweet cod, reach, h4, h1-3 and halo 5.
you should check neogaf.com and see the halo thread. very good explained whats new and whats the difference, also what didnt work out in the past.
No game ever will have 600k+players online. Halo 3 was in right place and right time but now market is totally saturated.
If Halo is going to relive it’s former glory it has to be good, modern game in the first place.
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> A forgettable, generic shooter.
I don’t know. That sounds a little harsh.
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> No game ever will have 600k+players online. Halo 3 was in right place and right time but now market is totally saturated.
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> If Halo is going to relive it’s former glory it has to be good, modern game in the first place.
Im agree with you but… what is a modern game for you?
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> > No game ever will have 600k+players online. Halo 3 was in right place and right time but now market is totally saturated.
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> > If Halo is going to relive it’s former glory it has to be good, modern game in the first place.
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> Im agree with you but… what is a modern game for you?
Keeping up to genre’s standards (even if that means hatred of fanbase’s vocal minority) is a nice start. You know, Halo 2 Anniversary is nice try towards older fans, but for anyone new (or even coming back - because older Halo fans tends to play other fps as well) it just feels slowish (no sprint), clunky (no instant switching between 2 aiming sensitivities - something ALL other fps have granted with ads) and boring (because except for shooting enemy 4 times with br and sometimes getting sniper/rocket launcher, there are actually very few gameplay features in between).
However reviving franchise’s glory is 1000000000$ problem. Developers must make another revolution like Doom and Quake and GoldenEye and Halo and CoD4… This is however as far from OP’s wishes as it gets.
No.
Now, I this k that halo 5 is amazing, and that If halo 5 released you know, 8 or 7 years ago it would have 600,000 players or more online. But not today, halo is no longer the big poster boy of gaming, now its call of duty.
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> > > No game ever will have 600k+players online. Halo 3 was in right place and right time but now market is totally saturated.
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> > Im agree with you but… what is a modern game for you?
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> Keeping up to genre’s standards (even if that means hatred of fanbase’s vocal minority) is a nice start. You know, Halo 2 Anniversary is nice try towards older fans, but for anyone new it just feels slowish (no sprint), clunky (no instant switching between 2 aiming sensitivities - something ALL other fps have granted with ads) and boring (because except for shooting enemy 4 times with br and sometimes getting sniper/rocket launcher, there are actually very few gameplay features in between).
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> However reviving franchise’s glory is 1000000000$ problem. Developers must make another revolution like Doom and Quake and GoldenEye and Halo and CoD4… This is however as far from OP’s wishes as it gets.
Well… I disagree. But you right, now ALL fps have all, today you havent a different fps you have just hybrids.
Halo was the king without sprint (the only one), Halo was the king without ADS, Halo was the king with slow killtimes (H5 shields are glass), etc… Halo was the king being different.
Obviuously, you can polish a lot of things in old Halo games like more speed base, better hit detection, new power ups etc…
But i can cross lockdown in H3 faster than you Ragnarock in H4 yet…
Im watching Columbus tourney last week and man… i didnt felt the gameplay slowish or clunky.
I dont know you are getting my point. (my english dont help n.n) i only want different things not “cool mixtures”
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> Well, let me start off with a question. What do you guys expect from halo 5? Do you expect it to be just an above average game? Or do you expect it to be a game that will put halo back on top. A game that will have a large population playing it (I’m talking 600,000+ players on an average day). A game that will truly relive halo’s former glory. If this is the kind of game you expect halo 5 to be, let me ask another question. Can halo 5 be this kind of game if it includes thrusters, sprint and smart scope? These are Three big game changers for halo 5. After playing halo mcc, I can’t believe that halo 5 will put halo back in its place if it includes these three mechanics into the game. I’ve been playing halo 3 a lot and I’ve been having a blast. I remember when I would play halo 3 all day and would never get bored with it. That’s still true today. Halo 3 in my opinion was the greatest halo game ever. By far I’ve had the most fun on this game than any other halo game and this could be true for a lot of people. I think 343 needs to build off of halo 3 instead of going on the direction that halo reach and and halo 4 set. Although halo reach was a great game, it lacked some of the things that made halo 3 great. So in conclusion, I think the only way halo 5 will be great is if it took a similar road to halo 3 while adding elements that halo reach got right.
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> I don’t expect something like this to happen. I just wanted to give my 2 cents on halo 5. This is just my opinion.
> Agree? Disagree? I want to see what other people think
It looks fantastic.
I know people who havent played halo since h2 who are dying to play this game
Im a crouch jumper, bumper jumper setup and I have played every halo game since the first. This looks like it’ll piss on each and every other version
I personally believe Halo 5: Guardians is going to be a very, very popular game.
Halo 5 has really impressed me (a Halo fan since 2003) and I think that Halo 5, by being so ‘modernized’, will really interest the newer generation of gamers. Even people I know personally who play COD think that Halo 5 looks fun, fast-paced etc.
If you haven’t been impressed with Halo 5 and what you’ve seen of it so far, don’t be totally put off by it and remember that ‘Arena’ is only a portion of Halo 5’s multi-player.
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> halo is no longer the big poster boy of gaming, now its call of duty.
Really?, are you kidding? Call of Duty is by far the dullest, most generic game it the industry. It’s the same thing year by year.
Why don’t you wait till the Halo 5 beta and than come back and talk about it again?
In all honestly, Halo 5 looks great! It looks much better than Reach and 4. It will have a huge Esports scene which will make the game a lot more popular. The maps are very well designed (as far as I have seen) and sprint seems to be much better balanced than in Reach and 4.
I do hope though that 343 does not forget the Custom Games, BTB, Forge and casual community. Would be nice to see Ranked and Social return or atleast the return of many casual and competitive gamemodes.
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> Well… I disagree. But you right, now ALL fps have all, today you havent a different fps you have just hybrids.
> Halo was the king without sprint (the only one), Halo was the king without ADS, Halo was the king with slow killtimes (H5 shields are glass), etc… Halo was the king being different.
> Obviuously, you can polish a lot of things in old Halo games like more speed base, better hit detection, new power ups etc…
> But i can cross lockdown in H3 faster than you Ragnarock in H4 yet…
> Im watching Columbus tourney last week and man… i didnt felt the gameplay slowish or clunky.
> I dont know you are getting my point. (my english dont help n.n) i only want different things not “cool mixtures”
Because you’re “old” fan whose senses and reflexed developed around Halo 2/3. I’m “old” fan of Mortal Kombat: I love original trilogy (even MK4, which took 2d gameplay into 3d graphics) and everytime I play it, all my reflexed are telling me, that I’m having great time and game is awesome. I didn’t liked “new” Mortal Kombat (from 2011) because it had totally different system, but guess what: “new” players like new MK and they feel that old MK trilogy is unplayable. Seriously, I don’t know anyone under 25 who have tried MK 1-3 and said “wow, that’s actually better than this new game!”.
Point is that franchise needs these young people to survive. Fanbase need new blood, because otherwise it dies. All this “old way is the best way” thing is just nostalgia and “I think it’s the best, so it’s the best for all other people” allegation is really root of all evil.
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> I personally believe Halo 5: Guardians is going to be a very, very popular game.
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> Halo 5 has really impressed me (a Halo fan since 2003) and I think that Halo 5, by being so ‘modernized’, will really interest the newer generation of gamers. Even people I know personally who play COD think that Halo 5 looks fun, fast-paced etc.
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> If you haven’t been impressed with Halo 5 and what you’ve seen of it so far, don’t be totally put off by it and remember that ‘Arena’ is only a portion of Halo 5’s multi-player.
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> > halo is no longer the big poster boy of gaming, now its call of duty.
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> Really?, are you kidding? Call of Duty is by far the dullest, most generic game it the industry. It’s the same thing year by year.
yeah, i know. but call of duty outsells basically everything every year. thats what i meant by " poster boy"
Simply no. I liked classic Halo but there’s nothing about Halo 5 that most people like. Maybe Halo 6 they might scrap everything, get back to the routes to what made Halo fun, unique.
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> > Well… I disagree. But you right, now ALL fps have all, today you havent a different fps you have just hybrids.
> > Halo was the king without sprint (the only one), Halo was the king without ADS, Halo was the king with slow killtimes (H5 shields are glass), etc… Halo was the king being different.
> > Obviuously, you can polish a lot of things in old Halo games like more speed base, better hit detection, new power ups etc…
> > But i can cross lockdown in H3 faster than you Ragnarock in H4 yet…
> > Im watching Columbus tourney last week and man… i didnt felt the gameplay slowish or clunky.
> > I dont know you are getting my point. (my english dont help n.n) i only want different things not “cool mixtures”
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> Because you’re “old” fan whose senses and reflexed developed around Halo 2/3. I’m “old” fan of Mortal Kombat: I love original trilogy (even MK4, which took 2d gameplay into 3d graphics) and everytime I play it, all my reflexed are telling me, that I’m having great time and game is awesome. I didn’t liked “new” Mortal Kombat (from 2011) because it had totally different system, but guess what: “new” players like new MK and they feel that old MK trilogy is unplayable. Seriously, I don’t know anyone under 25 who have tried MK 1-3 and said “wow, that’s actually better than this new game!”.
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> Point is that franchise needs these young people to survive. Fanbase need new blood, because otherwise it dies. All this “old way is the best way” thing is just nostalgia and “I think it’s the best, so it’s the best for all other people” allegation is really root of all evil.
Kids want play games that their adults play, adults wont play childish games.
Maybe for you a MK in first person is a evolution and not a change…
Kids are here crying about beta graphics… lol. A kid cant dev a game because they dont know how work the core of a game, hey want all, more colours, more skins, sprint, swim, climb, dive…
“Oh Borderlands have a pink rocket!! I want it put in Halo 343” Kids want 1000 weapons in a game but who can balance it? Nobody… Why fastkilltimes in H5? Because 343 arent fools, is more easy for balance of weapons…
Know you how can balance a shooter with 10000 weapons? Easy, making all weapons one shot.
Is like a “skill” in a p2p online shooter… I win? im the best, i loose? This game is crap…
Halo never was a game built for kids. You have rFactor and you have burnout, both racing games like was Halo and CoD, now both are Proyect Gotham… A bad game? Not, but we had two optins and now we have one.
What? Halo was unique?