343 should delay rank up in H4 for a month or so. Let the H4 online population even out and the noob phase pass b4 rankings begin. And i still think rank should only be determined in a FFA Playlist.
Well, it wouldn’t be fair to those who purchase the game early and want to delve into the game and ranks asap. 
> 343 should delay rank up in H4 for a month or so. Let the H4 online population even out and the noob phase pass b4 rankings begin. And i still think rank should only be determined in a FFA Playlist.
They tried delaying ranking up in Reach, and it wasn’t received very well.
And I don’t want to get too far into this, but don’t link your rank to your skill rating.
i disagree. Why deny the people who have bought the game on the release date the shiny stuff you get at higher ranks? can you explain what you mean in a little more depth, i’m not sure i fully understand why.
Yah, but that is why many get there 50 at all, because it is determined to some extent by your skill level versus the populations skill level. And a new game is highly populated by casual players. In a month or so the casual crowd will drop, and the dedicated H fans will know the maps. Presuming of coarse that a true skill system has returned with H4. it will also help keep up the population count.
> Yah, but that is why many get there 50 at all, because it is determined to some extent by your skill level versus the populations skill level. And a new game is highly populated by casual players. In a month or so the casual crowd will drop, and the dedicated H fans will know the maps.
so are you talking 1-50 ranking or the reach ranking system?
i hope to god they don’t bring back that stupid 1 exp per game, if your teamates load their guns with crayons you get blam-all even if you have a good game.
on an unrelated note, i am surprised a common English curse word (which i quickly removed) isn’t filtered O.o
I think rank is most accurately determined in Free For All Combat, and then you can earn your rank on a truly level platform.
> > Yah, but that is why many get there 50 at all, because it is determined to some extent by your skill level versus the populations skill level. And a new game is highly populated by casual players. In a month or so the casual crowd will drop, and the dedicated H fans will know the maps.
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> so are you talking 1-50 ranking or the reach ranking system?
> i hope to god they don’t bring back that stupid 1 exp per game, if your teamates load their guns with crayons you get blam-all even if you have a good game.
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> on an unrelated note, i am surprised a common English curse word (which i quickly removed) isn’t filtered O.o
Yes true skill.
> I think rank is most accurately determined in Free For All Combat, and then you can earn your rank on a truly level platform.
yes and no, free for all shows how good you personally are, but a big part of these games is the interactions between a team. i would quite like to see an overall rank much like reachs’ and a separate free for all playlist for people who want the 1 to 50 system.
> > > Yah, but that is why many get there 50 at all, because it is determined to some extent by your skill level versus the populations skill level. And a new game is highly populated by casual players. In a month or so the casual crowd will drop, and the dedicated H fans will know the maps.
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> > so are you talking 1-50 ranking or the reach ranking system?
> > i hope to god they don’t bring back that stupid 1 exp per game, if your teamates load their guns with crayons you get blam-all even if you have a good game.
> >
> > on an unrelated note, i am surprised a common English curse word (which i quickly removed) isn’t filtered O.o
>
> Yes true skill.
i never liked true skill, but i am bias as i never had the skill to get up to 50, so all the top ranks were off limits to me which is why i loved reachs’ ranking system.
> > > > Yah, but that is why many get there 50 at all, because it is determined to some extent by your skill level versus the populations skill level. And a new game is highly populated by casual players. In a month or so the casual crowd will drop, and the dedicated H fans will know the maps.
> > >
> > > so are you talking 1-50 ranking or the reach ranking system?
> > > i hope to god they don’t bring back that stupid 1 exp per game, if your teamates load their guns with crayons you get blam-all even if you have a good game.
> > >
> > > on an unrelated note, i am surprised a common English curse word (which i quickly removed) isn’t filtered O.o
> >
> > Yes true skill.
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> i never liked true skill, but i am bias as i never had the skill to get up to 50, so all the top ranks were off limits to me which is why i loved reachs’ ranking system.
I am no where near a 50 either, but i do like competitive matches.
> > > > > Yah, but that is why many get there 50 at all, because it is determined to some extent by your skill level versus the populations skill level. And a new game is highly populated by casual players. In a month or so the casual crowd will drop, and the dedicated H fans will know the maps.
> > > >
> > > > so are you talking 1-50 ranking or the reach ranking system?
> > > > i hope to god they don’t bring back that stupid 1 exp per game, if your teamates load their guns with crayons you get blam-all even if you have a good game.
> > > >
> > > > on an unrelated note, i am surprised a common English curse word (which i quickly removed) isn’t filtered O.o
> > >
> > > Yes true skill.
> >
> > i never liked true skill, but i am bias as i never had the skill to get up to 50, so all the top ranks were off limits to me which is why i loved reachs’ ranking system.
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> I am no where near a 50 either, but i do like competitive matches.
You can have competitive matches without visible trueskill, many games do this. If visible trueskill returns in anyway, I really hope it is, in no way, tied to a player’s rank. That was perhaps the worst decision I’ve ever seen.
> > > > > > Yah, but that is why many get there 50 at all, because it is determined to some extent by your skill level versus the populations skill level. And a new game is highly populated by casual players. In a month or so the casual crowd will drop, and the dedicated H fans will know the maps.
> > > > >
> > > > > so are you talking 1-50 ranking or the reach ranking system?
> > > > > i hope to god they don’t bring back that stupid 1 exp per game, if your teamates load their guns with crayons you get blam-all even if you have a good game.
> > > > >
> > > > > on an unrelated note, i am surprised a common English curse word (which i quickly removed) isn’t filtered O.o
> > > >
> > > > Yes true skill.
> > >
> > > i never liked true skill, but i am bias as i never had the skill to get up to 50, so all the top ranks were off limits to me which is why i loved reachs’ ranking system.
> >
> > I am no where near a 50 either, but i do like competitive matches.
>
> You can have competitive matches without visible trueskill, many games do this. If visible trueskill returns in anyway, I really hope it is, in no way, tied to a player’s rank. That was perhaps the worst decision I’ve ever seen.
True i would have a visible true skill based ranked FFA that would carry over to all playlists, but it would be invisible in casual playlists and ranked play would not be permitted until at least 25 games of FFA had been completed to determine rank. So those that desire casual play can play casually without ranks, ranked players can chose either casual play for a break from the pace or ranked team playlists to there liking but the rank is only changed in FFA.
> You can have competitive matches without visible trueskill, many games do this. If visible trueskill returns in anyway, I really hope it is, in no way, tied to a player’s rank. That was perhaps the worst decision I’ve ever seen.
Agreed. It was a very odd feature of H3, and in my opinion, was the cause of many of the frustrations over ranking up. I see why the two are split now. It’s a tough problem to solve.
> 343 should delay rank up in H4 for a month or so. Let the H4 online population even out and the noob phase pass b4 rankings begin. And i still think rank should only be determined in a FFA Playlist.
What exactly do you mean by this ‘noon phase’?
I actually find my self PARTIALLY agreeing with a delay in ranked playlists being unlocked for play. However, a month is a bit long. Maybe like a 72 hour delay, until Friday after the Tuesday release. Sure a few people will cry, but it gives everybody a window of time to play the campaign. It also gives people a chance to knock off the rust and test their new game in a light hearted environment.
I have an idea. Here me out…
Tiered participation eligibility:
Require completion of 20 social matches to gain access to ranked playlists,
Require completion of 10 ranked FFA matches to gain access to ranked team slayer,
Require completion of 10 ranked Team Slayer games to unlock all other ranked lists.
This could help balance out the sloppiness of early ranked team games, and help the ‘truskill’ system in the games online infancy to match teams just a little better.
The die hards and try hards would surely grind their way to matchmaking ASAP. And the less obsessed folks could ease their way into ranked and maybe not get obliterated immediately due to lack of skill analysis by the matchmaking system.
If this is for 1-50 this is a terrible idea. If it’s for a meaningless rank I couldn’t care less.
> If this is for 1-50 this is a terrible idea. If it’s for a meaningless rank I couldn’t care less.
Logic please? Or it is only your blind opinion.
have a level cap only pisses off the people. the noobs don’t even like it.
> > If this is for 1-50 this is a terrible idea. If it’s for a meaningless rank I couldn’t care less.
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> Logic please? Or it is only your blind opinion.
I think what he means is:
going 1-50 means your rank is a number and your skill matches that number, so why put a halt on that? you would just be pwning noobs and the noobs would hate it cause they couldnt have fun.
meaningless rank, as in reach, where your rank =/= skill, then why does it even matter to have a block? its just a shiny emblem
preposterous.
NO.