Decimus possible buff/changes ideas

Outside of his buggy hero unit which clearly needs fixing, what are some things Decimus needs or could use to put him on par with Atri and Ship?

More people using him?

Decimus really isn’t that bad, he just plays REALLY different from the rest of the Banished. I feel like if you buff the Warlord to have some range/AOE damage he’d be great.

People just need to learn how to play him

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> More people using him?
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> Decimus really isn’t that bad, he just plays REALLY different from the rest of the Banished. I feel like if you buff the Warlord to have some range/AOE damage he’d be great.
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> People just need to learn how to play him

There’s no reason to pick him over Atri superior economy and invincibility or ship master teleport tactics lol what can decimus do to combat those?

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> > Decimus really isn’t that bad, he just plays REALLY different from the rest of the Banished. I feel like if you buff the Warlord to have some range/AOE damage he’d be great.
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> There’s no reason to pick him over Atri superior economy and invincibility or ship master teleport tactics lol what can decimus do to combat those?

He has incredibly passives that make his standard troops much stronger than Atriox or Shipmaster. These passives are free (outside of the leader point of course) so you aren’t spending resources on them. He’s a much more army focused leader than the others, so you need to focus on your troops more than your power usage. That said Siphon is dynamite. One of the best leader powers in the game imo

I think Decimus is incredible underrated. In a fair bit of irony, however, Decimus himself (the unit) needs a HUGE buff. He dies quickly, has a horrible active ability, and Warlord does more damage than him and can beat him in a 1v1. I’ve tested this. I will post video proof at some point. Decimus needs a buff. Not the leader, but the unit.

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> Outside of his buggy hero unit which clearly needs fixing, what are some things Decimus needs or could use to put him on par with Atri and Ship?

Decimus Drop needs to be stronger to cause an impact (it really doesn’t justify the price as of now), Frenzy shouldn’t kill your own units (it’s a worse hellcharge because it nukes your own unit’s health), and his siphon and frenzy abilities need to be able to target larger groups of units.

Decimus was formerly OK, but Kinsano outshines him in every way right now as the rush leader. He needs a few buffs to set him on par with her.

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> He has incredibly passives that make his standard troops much stronger than Atriox or Shipmaster. These passives are free (outside of the leader point of course) so you aren’t spending resources on them. He’s a much more army focused leader than the others, so you need to focus on your troops more than your power usage. That said Siphon is dynamite. One of the best leader powers in the game imO

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> He has incredibly passives that make his standard troops much stronger than Atriox or Shipmaster. These passives are free (outside of the leader point of course) so you aren’t spending resources on them. He’s a much more army focused leader than the others, so you need to focus on your troops more than your power usage. That said Siphon is dynamite. One of the best leader powers in the game imO

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> > > > > He has incredibly passives that make his standard troops much stronger than Atriox or Shipmaster. These passives are free (outside of the leader point of course) so you aren’t spending resources on them. He’s a much more army focused leader than the others, so you need to focus on your troops more than your power usage. That said Siphon is dynamite. One of the best leader powers in the game imo
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> > He has incredibly passives that make his standard troops much stronger than Atriox or Shipmaster. These passives are free (outside of the leader point of course) so you aren’t spending resources on them. He’s a much more army focused leader than the others, so you need to focus on your troops more than your power usage. That said Siphon is dynamite. One of the best leader powers in the game imO

So in an atriox vs Decimus fight you think decimus passives will
keep him on par with bulwark eradication and dying breath and unbreakable???

Phone was buggy sorry about triple quote

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> > > > > > He has incredibly passives that make his standard troops much stronger than Atriox or Shipmaster. These passives are free (outside of the leader point of course) so you aren’t spending resources on them. He’s a much more army focused leader than the others, so you need to focus on your troops more than your power usage. That said Siphon is dynamite. One of the best leader powers in the game imo
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> > > > > Decimus really isn’t that bad, he just plays REALLY different from the rest of the Banished. I feel like if you buff the Warlord to have some range/AOE damage he’d be great.
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I think for the most part, yes.

A lot of it will depend on player skill, but I don’t think Decimus is ridiculously weak compared to Atriox. Changes to Decimus Drop and Fury (which others have shared) would remove the shadow of a doubt.

I think the main problem with Decimus is that people are looking for large “in your face” leader powers, like Inferno, ODST drop, and Displacement. Since Decimus’ passives and best leader power (Siphon) are less easy to see and quantify people think they’re weaker then other leader’s powers.

Edit: Let’s keep in mind that if Atriox wanted to use all of those leader powers at once the player would have to have stocked up a HUGE supply of resources to pay for them, passives are free :smiley:

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> > People just need to learn how to play him
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> There’s no reason to pick him over Atri superior economy and invincibility or ship master teleport tactics lol what can decimus do to combat those?

I sort of agree. But, Deci passive powers do add up. Players don’t notice it as much (I think someone said that), but by the time you get final passive, you’re pretty damn strong. Mix that with siphon, it’s close to Atriox’s invincibility. i think Deci needs a better hero, and maybe a speed boost, yes. But, I’d say try him out. I win more with him than with Shipmaster.

What Decimus lacks in strategy he makes up for in raw power. As Decimus in a 1v1, you should be primarily on the offensive. His passives are waaayy too good to not be taken advantage of.

As Decimus in a team game, you should be the one leading the attack or the main entrèe in the buffet. Decimus and Shipmaster are lethal as a duo. You have 1 sneaky, hit and run support leader who can provide additional firepower with his Spirit Assult that provides covering fire and you also have a straight tank that is ridiculously good offensively.

The problem with the passive is so many units can get 1 shot (especially with kinsano now) that they can never effectively fir back to get the bonuses. I’d take a raw heal over lifesteal any day.

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> The problem with the passive is so many units can get 1 shot (especially with kinsano now) that they can never effectively fir back to get the bonuses. I’d take a raw heal over lifesteal any day.

Exactly he had no immediate impact abilities you can just burst his units lol he is Isabel tier trash and brute chieftan is my fav but he just sucks in hw2

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> I think Decimus is incredible underrated. In a fair bit of irony, however, Decimus himself (the unit) needs a HUGE buff. He dies quickly, has a horrible active ability, and Warlord does more damage than him and can beat him in a 1v1. I’ve tested this. I will post video proof at some point. Decimus needs a buff. Not the leader, but the unit.

Agree; the dude costs half a Scarab, perhaps he’ll worth the price if his ability was the shield/erradication combo from campaing.