Dear 343
Hi my name is Jake, and I am a 7th grader at <mark>REDACTED</mark>. I am a huge fan of your Halo games. As much as I love them I could not help but notice the problem with your Halo rings.
The first time I noticed this problem I was playing the first mission of halo 2 and watching the cut scene when they show the engines on the halo ring and the ring spinning. I know that the artificial gravity is created by the spinning of the ring. This is where I noticed the problem. When the ring spins the bust should not act as it does on Earth, it should curve if you shoot in the direction of the spin. But if you shoot in the direction of the way that the ring just spun your bullet will not move and just jam your gun.
This problem is causing a bunch of sleepless nights pondering the physics of the ring. There are also many other problems with this ring that I would like to touch up on. I will refer you to the game theory video about this topic. I would like some explanation in the Lore if possible on why the physics work, but if not I want something added to the Lore. I also am sending this to Bungie and Microsoft hoping for an answer. Thank you for your time and consideration and for the hours of joy I have had shooting grunts, elites, and brutes.
Sincerely,
Jake
The Game Theory video is wrong.
Canonically, Halo Installations have a gravitational force that is about 0.992 Gs, not the 1.5-1.6 Gs stated in the video that was extrapolated from the games.
And that throws off calculations significantly.
Taking information from gameplay doesn’t work because Halo’s gameplay has never accurately reflected canon and thus should not be taken into account if alternative, official sources are available.
Factor in the information that Halo installations use artificial gravity generators to create a gravitational force that also controls the spin of each ring and it shows that the Game Theory video is far from credible.
But that really applies to all of their videos (the Halo ones, at least). The armor video is a whole other can of worms that I could rant about for a few paragraphs.
It’s a game,no need to really dissect physics of something that doesn’t exist
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> It’s a game,no need to really dissect physics of something that doesn’t exist
suddendly a purple alien-like ship appears in out sky and starts killing us. The aliens also confirm that there are rings in our Universe and then kills the rest of the HumansThe end. Thanks for reading.
you should tell that to bungie, 343 didnt make the masterpiece of a game halo 2
I think I asked my Astronomy teacher the same thing back in high school. He tried to explain it but he told me that it is a video game and the physics won’t always make sense for obvious reasons.
well jake everyone knows that you take the game theory videos as fact which i do not recommend i was like that myself at one point. yeah thats about it the half baked theory didn’t work because they didn’t look into the physics of halo rings enough; just like the one about halo rings creating theoratical (and disproven) bursts of energy that cause the chemical compositions of entire planets to change.
You know Jake not everything can make sense…
" When the ring spins the bust should not act as it does on Earth, it should curve if you shoot in the direction of the spin. But if you shoot in the direction of the way that the ring just spun your bullet will not move and just jam your gun. "
No. That is not how it works, at least not in any of the ranges we experience in the game. Go to the equator, and fire a gun with the spin of the Earth, and against it. You are talking about the Eötvös effect which only matters once you reach 1000yards. The Eötvös effect affects the vertical plane, whereas the Coriolis effect affects the horizontal plane. There is also a special thing called relativity. Go on a bus and have it get to 60mph. Then take a ball and throw it opposite of the buses direction of travel. If you throw it at 30mph, that ball is still gonna act the same way as if the bus was not moving, since while the bus is moving at 60mph, so too is the ball. To an outside observer, throwing the ball at 30mph opposite of the buses travel, will seem as if the ball moving kinda in slow motion. It would appear to be floating if you threw it at 60mph, while the bus is moving. Throwing the ball in the same direction of travel as the bus will add the speed of the ball to the speed of the bus, so to you the ball is moving 30mph, but to an observer it is moving at 90mph. Scale this up where the discrepancy between the speed of rotation and the speed of a bullet, the effects are largely unnoticeable. You would have to achieve escape velocity speeds to observe any deflection under 1000yards, which, depending on the speed of the bullet along with the pull of gravity, air density(which takes into account, temperature, humidity, and barometric pressure), and the bullets ballistic coefficient(how efficiently a bullet can handle drag) is about 3 inches plus or minus on Earth.
I swear this was a shoddycast. Anyway, forerunner technology is vastly superior to human understanding. Which is why ONI employs scientists to uncover info about their technology. One does not need to understand how a ring works internally to figure out what it’s for. I’m pretty sure chief doesn’t care about the internals, only that a) he’s safe and b) he does something to save humanity, by stopping the rings from firing.
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> I swear this was a shoddycast. Anyway, forerunner technology is vastly superior to human understanding. Which is why ONI employs scientists to uncover info about their technology. One does not need to understand how a ring works internally to figure out what it’s for. I’m pretty sure chief doesn’t care about the internals, only that a) he’s safe and b) he does something to save humanity, by stopping the rings from firing.
It was done by the guy who did “Science!” for shoddycast. Looks like he is with game theory now.
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> > I swear this was a shoddycast. Anyway, forerunner technology is vastly superior to human understanding. Which is why ONI employs scientists to uncover info about their technology. One does not need to understand how a ring works internally to figure out what it’s for. I’m pretty sure chief doesn’t care about the internals, only that a) he’s safe and b) he does something to save humanity, by stopping the rings from firing.
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> It was done by the guy who did “Science!” for shoddycast. Looks like he is with game theory now.
I think I watched a game theory vid with him in, but that was probably a couple months back. Good for him I guess, working up the youtube ranks.
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> I swear this was a shoddycast. Anyway, forerunner technology is vastly superior to human understanding. Which is why ONI employs scientists to uncover info about their technology. One does not need to understand how a ring works internally to figure out what it’s for. I’m pretty sure chief doesn’t care about the internals, only that a) he’s safe and b) he does something to save humanity, by stopping the rings from firing.
actually austin from shoddycast moved to game theory (which is somewhat unfortunate considering his content change since moving there and all)
just a discussion (even though its getting less halo related)
Well it was made by the forerunners, who can make light solid and objects float, so it probably has that unexplainable “artificial gravity” that so many sci fi games/movies use as an excuse for gravity in space vehicles.
This is why it’s called science fiction and not just science.
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If you say that they dont spin to make gravity go -Yoink- yourself
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> Dear 343
> Hi my name is Jake, and I am a 7th grader at REDACTED. I am a huge fan of your Halo games. As much as I love them I could not help but notice the problem with your Halo rings.
> The first time I noticed this problem I was playing the first mission of halo 2 and watching the cut scene when they show the engines on the halo ring and the ring spinning. I know that the artificial gravity is created by the spinning of the ring. This is where I noticed the problem. When the ring spins the bust should not act as it does on Earth, it should curve if you shoot in the direction of the spin. **But if you shoot in the direction of the way that the ring just spun your bullet will not move and just jam your gun.**This problem is causing a bunch of sleepless nights pondering the physics of the ring. There are also many other problems with this ring that I would like to touch up on. I will refer you to the game theory video about this topic. I would like some explanation in the Lore if possible on why the physics work, but if not I want something added to the Lore. I also am sending this to Bungie and Microsoft hoping for an answer. Thank you for your time and consideration and for the hours of joy I have had shooting grunts, elites, and brutes.
> Sincerely,
> Jake
I’ve signed in for the first time in several years just to correct this line with a point I’ve seen nobody else in the thread make. The expansion of gas inside the gun created by igniting the explosive inside the bullet would force the projectile down the barrel regardless, because of the pressure difference between the interior and exterior of the barrel.
I’d really reconsider the fact that you’re using a Game Theory video as an excuse to get on your high horse before posting condescending stuff like this online.
What a great response. It’s almost as if you didn’t bother reading the counter arguments. I’m sure you ignored the miscalculations in the video.
My apology’s for any mis calculations and words used.
i had a friend write while i lectured him
sorry again
It’s fine, sorry for not realizing it was a different person.