Seeing as some of the places have some real world relevance to are own galaxy, we would only really need some landmarks for the alien territories. Honestly nothing as detailed as Elite dangerous (Tau Ceti to Epsilon Eridanus ). Even a simple 3 dimensional outline of faction territories over the milky-way galaxy would suffice.
From what I understand by what Bungie stated in their pre-release info for Halo CE, the Covenant began colonizing the galaxy from the Galactic core, outwards along the Orion Arm of the Milky way galaxy. The UNSC began colonizing from Sol, along the Orion Arm, inwards towards the Galactic core.(Speculation begins) Judging by how long it takes for UNSC ships to travel from Reach to harvest (the furthest colony from Earth), Iâd say Human Space encompasses 250 to 300 light years from earth. The Covenant, having been in power for over 3000 years, and with faster FTL velocities (912 LYPD), they could possibly control about half the Orion Arm, although they might have some outposts throughout the whole Galaxy; the Covenantâs goal was to recover Forerunner artifacts, and as seen in Halo Wars and Halo 2 Anniversary Terminal about Meridian, some Forerunner ruins directed them to the locations of important Forerunner sites.
Yes, this is something that 343i should clarify, such as how many Human colonies were glassed in total, whether the Human population of 39 billion before the war is still canon, and the extent of Covenant territories and number of colonies and outposts. Considering the amount of space they control, their colonies could be in the tens of thousands!
As for the pre-release info by Bungie for Halo CE, i picked it up from the Marathon story page. Google it and see for yourself if youâre interested.
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> From what I understand by what Bungie stated in their pre-release info for Halo CE, the Covenant began colonizing the galaxy from the Galactic core, outwards along the Orion Arm of the Milky way galaxy. The UNSC began colonizing from Sol, along the Orion Arm, inwards towards the Galactic core.(Speculation begins) Judging by how long it takes for UNSC ships to travel from Reach to harvest (the furthest colony from Earth), Iâd say Human Space encompasses 250 to 300 light years from earth. The Covenant, having been in power for over 3000 years, and with faster FTL velocities (912 LYPD), they could possibly control about half the Orion Arm, although they might have some outposts throughout the whole Galaxy; the Covenantâs goal was to recover Forerunner artifacts, and as seen in Halo Wars and Halo 2 Anniversary Terminal about Meridian, some Forerunner ruins directed them to the locations of important Forerunner sites.
> Yes, this is something that 343i should clarify, such as how many Human colonies were glassed in total, whether the Human population of 39 billion before the war is still canon, and the extent of Covenant territories and number of colonies and outposts. Considering the amount of space they control, their colonies could be in the tens of thousands!
> As for the pre-release info by Bungie for Halo CE, i picked it up from the Marathon story page. Google it and see for yourself if youâre interested.
I thought it was less around 50-100ly but there are some discrepancies that support that.
I noticed Lambda Aurigae system is a UEG outer colony system. In âThe Impossible Life and the Possible Death of Preston J. Coleâ its stated as being under 50ly. Funny thing is the actual one in the Auriga constellation is 494ly from earth.
Jericho 7 is another Oddity. Sitting in the Lambda Serpentis system, the outer colony is said to be 38lys from earth H:FoR⌠reality Lambda Serpentis is 70 parsecs (1 Parsecs to Light Years = 3.2616: 70 Parsecs to Light Years = 228.3095).
Are these mistakes or is the halo galaxy not as 1:1 as i thought which is odd as every thing that can be found is where it should beâŚ
Well, the Extended Universe is written by many different authors with their own ideas and interpretation of the Halo Universe. Weâve got Eric Nylund, Karen Traviss, Greg Bear, Joseph Staten, etc. There is bound to be inaccuracies between what they all say in their books, and what Bungie or 343i says.
For instance, in FOR and Contact Harvest, it is stated that the planet Harvest, the furthest colony from Earth, is in Epsilon Indi, which in real life, is located 12 light years from Sol. As stated in First Strike, Human slipspace travel times as of 2552, was at 2.625 light years from Earth, and it is mentioned that it takes 2 or 3 months to travel from Reach to Harvest. Not only that, but with the Covenant able to travel at 912 LYPD, it seems odd that it would take them 27 years to find Earth if the first colony they discovered was a mere 12 light years away. But I Eric Nylund had to write FOR in seven weeks, so naturally it was rather rushed and some of the details clashed in his next 2 books, First Strike and Ghosts of Onyx. In GOO, the Human colony, Onyx was located in Zeta Doradus, which is 38 light years from Sol, far beyond Epsilon Indi.
I could give several more examples but I think Iâve made my point. i donât envy 343i; even though theyâve inherited responsibility for the development of an incredible sci-fi Universe, sifting through the canon inconsistencies and deciding which is canon or not is no doubt a nightmare.
We should cut them more slack.
WHen it comes to these types of issues, you either have to wait for 343 to give a statement on it, or take the last published sourse of material as the trumping canon, meaning in the case of Harvest, The Fall Of Reach is over ruled.
I think it would be cool to have som form of map on maybe the halowaypoint website just to at least give a little idea of how it would look.
It would be amazing, but the Halo Universe is too big for a galaxy map
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> WHen it comes to these types of issues, you either have to wait for 343 to give a statement on it, or take the last published sourse of material as the trumping canon, meaning in the case of Harvest, The Fall Of Reach is over ruled.
Well, in Contact Harvest, it was stated that the UNSC had settled 17 colony-worlds, whereas 343i seems to be sticking to the 800 colonies as canon.
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> It would be amazing, but the Halo Universe is too big for a galaxy map
I donât think it is. Well yeah a 100ly is a lot but going off harvest being the furthest colony fans have made mock-ups of human space
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> From what I understand by what Bungie stated in their pre-release info for Halo CE, the Covenant began colonizing the galaxy from the Galactic core, outwards along the Orion Arm of the Milky way galaxy. The UNSC began colonizing from Sol, along the Orion Arm, inwards towards the Galactic core.(Speculation begins) Judging by how long it takes for UNSC ships to travel from Reach to harvest (the furthest colony from Earth), Iâd say Human Space encompasses 250 to 300 light years from earth. The Covenant, having been in power for over 3000 years, and with faster FTL velocities (912 LYPD), they could possibly control about half the Orion Arm, although they might have some outposts throughout the whole Galaxy; the Covenantâs goal was to recover Forerunner artifacts, and as seen in Halo Wars and Halo 2 Anniversary Terminal about Meridian, some Forerunner ruins directed them to the locations of important Forerunner sites.
> Yes, this is something that 343i should clarify, such as how many Human colonies were glassed in total, whether the Human population of 39 billion before the war is still canon, and the extent of Covenant territories and number of colonies and outposts. Considering the amount of space they control, their colonies could be in the tens of thousands!
> As for the pre-release info by Bungie for Halo CE, i picked it up from the Marathon story page. Google it and see for yourself if youâre interested.
It would be awesome to have a map, Iâll be happy with a 2D map with higlighted areas and major known worlds highlighted, and some statistics about number of colonies populations and what not
I remember talking to Stephen Loftus about this, where he basically gave 343i the necessary knowledge and tools to begin charting the star systems of Halo to actual stars. However, just like we wonât get a UNSC ship count, we wonât get the actual location of stars. It is so 343i doesnât write themselves into a narrative corner by requiring the Halo Universe to operate on tangible values and information.
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> I remember talking to Stephen Loftus about this, where he basically gave 343i the necessary knowledge and tools to begin charting the star systems of Halo to actual stars. However, just like we wonât get a UNSC ship count, we wonât get the actual location of stars. It is so 343i doesnât write themselves into a narrative corner by requiring the Halo Universe to operate on tangible values and information.
Thatâs just depressing
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> I remember talking to Stephen Loftus about this, where he basically gave 343i the necessary knowledge and tools to begin charting the star systems of Halo to actual stars. However, just like we wonât get a UNSC ship count, we wonât get the actual location of stars. It is so 343i doesnât write themselves into a narrative corner by requiring the Halo Universe to operate on tangible values and information.
I was actually about to guess this, and itâs not really that big of a deal for now in my opinion. Itâd be nice, but it may also be bad for the Universe as a whole. Theyâve got a lot of writing to do.
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> I remember talking to Stephen Loftus about this, where he basically gave 343i the necessary knowledge and tools to begin charting the star systems of Halo to actual stars. However, just like we wonât get a UNSC ship count, we wonât get the actual location of stars. It is so 343i doesnât write themselves into a narrative corner by requiring the Halo Universe to operate on tangible values and information.
yes, it is best to keep the details vague, so as to leave everything to our imaginations.
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> > It would be amazing, but the Halo Universe is too big for a galaxy map
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> I donât think it is. Well yeah a 100ly is a lot but going off harvest being the furthest colony fans have made mock-ups of human space
Yeah Iâve seen some fan maps try to make the Halo Galaxy look a lot like the Star Wars Galaxy, but from the way things are described in the novels Iâd say itâs more like the Star Trek Galaxy. Although Federation space is probably a lot bigger than anything the UNSC currently has.
Yeah distances and number of colonies in halo is a real mess. The Jackal homeworld is also closer to earth than most human colonies. The map would probably look pretty messed up if using their real-life locations. Itâs probably whatâs kept it from happening.
As for the discrepancies in distances, its also important to remember that distances in slipspace != the same relative distances in real space.
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> From what I understand by what Bungie stated in their pre-release info for Halo CE, the Covenant began colonizing the galaxy from the Galactic core, outwards along the Orion Arm of the Milky way galaxy. The UNSC began colonizing from Sol, along the Orion Arm, inwards towards the Galactic core.(Speculation begins) Judging by how long it takes for UNSC ships to travel from Reach to harvest (the furthest colony from Earth), Iâd say Human Space encompasses 250 to 300 light years from earth. The Covenant, having been in power for over 3000 years, and with faster FTL velocities (912 LYPD), they could possibly control about half the Orion Arm, although they might have some outposts throughout the whole Galaxy; the Covenantâs goal was to recover Forerunner artifacts, and as seen in Halo Wars and Halo 2 Anniversary Terminal about Meridian, some Forerunner ruins directed them to the locations of important Forerunner sites.
> Yes, this is something that 343i should clarify, such as how many Human colonies were glassed in total, whether the Human population of 39 billion before the war is still canon, and the extent of Covenant territories and number of colonies and outposts. Considering the amount of space they control, their colonies could be in the tens of thousands!
> As for the pre-release info by Bungie for Halo CE, i picked it up from the Marathon story page. Google it and see for yourself if youâre interested.
Covenant homeworlds are in the Orion Arm, which is where most covie worlds lie. Harvest was the furthest colony via splipspace. Splipspace distance is not always analogous to that of normal space.
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> > From what I understand by what Bungie stated in their pre-release info for Halo CE, the Covenant began colonizing the galaxy from the Galactic core, outwards along the Orion Arm of the Milky way galaxy. The UNSC began colonizing from Sol, along the Orion Arm, inwards towards the Galactic core.(Speculation begins) Judging by how long it takes for UNSC ships to travel from Reach to harvest (the furthest colony from Earth), Iâd say Human Space encompasses 250 to 300 light years from earth. The Covenant, having been in power for over 3000 years, and with faster FTL velocities (912 LYPD), they could possibly control about half the Orion Arm, although they might have some outposts throughout the whole Galaxy; the Covenantâs goal was to recover Forerunner artifacts, and as seen in Halo Wars and Halo 2 Anniversary Terminal about Meridian, some Forerunner ruins directed them to the locations of important Forerunner sites.
> > Yes, this is something that 343i should clarify, such as how many Human colonies were glassed in total, whether the Human population of 39 billion before the war is still canon, and the extent of Covenant territories and number of colonies and outposts. Considering the amount of space they control, their colonies could be in the tens of thousands!
> > As for the pre-release info by Bungie for Halo CE, i picked it up from the Marathon story page. Google it and see for yourself if youâre interested.
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> Covenant homeworlds are in the Orion Arm, which is where most covie worlds lie. Harvest was the furthest colony via splipspace. Splipspace distance is not always analogous to that of normal space.
Yes, all contemporary races depicted in Halo media come from the Orion Arm; this is why itâs possible that new races could be encountered in the wider Galaxy. And, in the early days of slipspace travel, Human ships experienced some kind of âtemporal fluidityâ which prevented them from accurately measuring FTL velocities, as they werenât constant.
Sounds like a bad idea because they would be attacked by people whenever there is an inaccuracy with something.
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> Sounds like a bad idea because they would be attacked by people whenever there is an inaccuracy with something.
I would counter by saying people will do it regardless, It happens in star wars, star trek, wow, elderscrolls and game of thrones⌠I donât see the overall contribution of a map as detracting from knowing where x is in relation to y. With slip space becoming some what instant since the inclusion of the forerunners, issues seen in past media is now a none issue moving forward.
Regardless its more satisfying when they get it right and show they know the lore to a decimal.
