I say that 343i is doing a good job. Here’s was the scenario that has happened:
343i took a step and tripped, but they got back up and kept going. Fixing their mess with ease.
This is how I picture Halo 4.
I wonder if anyone from 343i has actually seen this thread?
> > > > When you were six you were 10 years to young to play it and now you are just old enough to play Halo.
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> > > When I was six, I still had the decency to pick up the books of the franchise and invest in the Lore, not sit around and judge other people based on age, opinions and other things online. 
Good day.
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> > I think he means a 6 year old shouldn’t be playing shooters. He’s right btw, where were your parents?
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> > To everyone that claims it’s revisionist history to call Halo 2 perfect and forget about the problems it had at launch… they fixed those, then it was perfect. So the knowledge to make a perfect Halo existed after the Halo 2 TU, why would you go backwards? Shouldn’t Halo 4 have been just as good, at least?
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> > Also - no such thing as using “innovations” from modern gaming. If you copy it, it’s no longer an innovation, it’s copying. I can’t “innovate” the lightbulb, someone else already did. Halo 4 has ZERO NEW FEATURES. There is not one truly new unique feature in Halo 4. To me that’s kinda sad.
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> Many games copy from others. This has been going on for decades. What people do now is take an idea make it basic and add their own spin on it. That in itself is being original because its their idea as a whole. Its like trying to invent something humanity needs. We’ve covered all those bases awhile ago now anything we invent is a “spin off” version just to be more convienent.
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> As for the age argument its invalid. He’s being respectful of others and losers like that guy are mearly trying to derail his positive look with it which is sad. Lastly i really hate the copy argument. If your just noticing games doing this your either slow or your just using it as a tactic for fuel for your pitiful argument. Half of halo’s mechanics/ ideas came from other games. They wern’t the first to fight ailens in space or have shields as the health system. Halo just got it right.
Exactly. A little off topic but Avatar was one of the biggest blockbuster movies of all time; and it was basically just Pocahontas in space. My professor showed our class a video one day too, about how most popular or successes franchises (movies, games, books, music, etc.) are just remakes or “remixes” of current trends. You’d be surprised how many of your favorite franchises out there for ANY medium just blatantly “borrow” ideas from the leaders.
People need to get over this pre-concieved notion that everything, everywhere is going to be original to the bones. Without things that come before something else to work off of, we’d get no where.
Good example: We didn’t just create a iPhone when humans first created cell phones. Hell, we needed to created -Yoink- house phones first, then clunky-huge cell phones…THEN they gradually got better, little by little, by borrowing what worked before it.
Sorry, lol rambled a bit. Hopefully someone can make sense of my post =P
> Wrong, yet again.
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> I’ve been playing since Halo CE, and millions of others have as well, but the changes Halo 4 made to the franchise are in the opposite direction of Halo CE. In reality, the majority of the people who like this game started with Reach, not 1, 2, or 3. They weren’t there to witness what you should have witnesses - the magic of Halo multiplayer.
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> You are completely backwards in your statements, and a piece of armor is definitely not the only thing missing. Lack of features, lack of classic playlist, and plenty of other things that should have been in the game are not.
I’ve been playing Halo since day one of the release of CE and I think Halo 4 is the best thus far.
I am a fan since I got Halo 2 on 2005.
Then I buy the original one and I loved them. Then I got every game and liked every game, including the so criticized ODST (I loved the style) and Reach (it had it’s flaws, but had many great moments with my friends) and I have Halo 4 and I love it.
It’s different. I want every game to be different, I didn’t wanted a Halo 3.5 nor anything like that. I want Combat Evolved and that’s Halo 4, which I think that still, with all the changes, still feels like Halo.
i was 6 aswell
> > Wrong, yet again.
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> > I’ve been playing since Halo CE, and millions of others have as well, but the changes Halo 4 made to the franchise are in the opposite direction of Halo CE. In reality, the majority of the people who like this game started with Reach, not 1, 2, or 3. They weren’t there to witness what you should have witnesses - the magic of Halo multiplayer.
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> > You are completely backwards in your statements, and a piece of armor is definitely not the only thing missing. Lack of features, lack of classic playlist, and plenty of other things that should have been in the game are not.
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> I’ve been playing Halo since day one of the release of CE and I think Halo 4 is the best thus far.
Same. Halo CE was my launch game and I’ve preordered and waited in line for every Halo, ever. Hell, even when I was in the ARMY, I convinced my Platoon Sergeant to let me skip PT and wait in line for my Halo 3 =] (he did, was a gamer too).
And in all honesty, I like Halo 4 the best. Reach was the worst, although I still found things to enjoy about it. And I love classic Halo, even if they released Halo 2 with better graphics I’d buy it; I’m a sucker for Halo…
…but IMHO, if they decided to get rid of Ordnance, AAs, Loadouts and anything else they might want to take a “risk” with in Halo 5, I’d be extremely disappointed. Not so much in 343i, but in the community for basically “Shooting down every new idea” and never adding any suggestions themselves =]
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NO…no…this is a wrong opinion…
ive played the game and series since i was six as well… and i have played all the halos…
and by saying “theyve only played since halo 2” means theyve been playing a pretty long time… nd since halo 3 was pretty similar to halo 2… that is a pretty good start as well…
halo is dead…it will never come back to its golden days…
evidence of this is that they brought back one of the greatest maps in the franchise… valhalla… and made it unfair, unfun, and overall sucky to play on.
> I say that 343i is doing a good job. Here’s was the scenario that has happened:
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> 343i took a step and tripped, but they got back up and kept going. Fixing their mess with ease.
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> This is how I picture Halo 4.
People are always saying this…but everything they have added should have been there in the first place…
custom games? in shambles.
theatre? in shambles.
vehicle mechanics? not even close to what they used to be, horrible.
NO RANKING SYSTEM? that right there. thats it. main benefactor in why this game is terrible.
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> Wrong, yet again.
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> I’ve been playing since Halo CE, and millions of others have as well, but the changes Halo 4 made to the franchise are in the opposite direction of Halo CE. In reality, the majority of the people who like this game started with Reach, not 1, 2, or 3. They weren’t there to witness what you should have witnesses - the magic of Halo multiplayer.
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> You are completely backwards in your statements, and a piece of armor is definitely not the only thing missing. Lack of features, lack of classic playlist, and plenty of other things that should have been in the game are not.
Also wrong, you’re all being idiots.
You all either hate it or love it, this isn’t Monty Python, so look at the good and the bad and admire the game for how good it truly is.
> > I say that 343i is doing a good job. Here’s was the scenario that has happened:
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> > 343i took a step and tripped, but they got back up and kept going. Fixing their mess with ease.
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> > This is how I picture Halo 4.
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> People are always saying this…but everything they have added should have been there in the first place…
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> custom games? in shambles.
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> theatre? in shambles.
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> vehicle mechanics? not even close to what they used to be, horrible.
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> NO RANKING SYSTEM? that right there. thats it. main benefactor in why this game is terrible.
AKA, 343i picking themselves up and fixing their mess with ease. They can’t work on everything at once. Plus, it’s a lot of pressure to have Microsoft rush them for what they’re trying to do. And they are adding a ranking system, just not here at the moment.
Oh if you don’t believe me, you should’ve looked at what happened earlier. They made a TU nerfing the Boltshot, what many players wanted. They kept their word, and many know that they will again.
You are so much like me in respect to how you got into Halo and gaming. I am only just coming up to 17 but I have played on all the old systems. All hand me downs though. ZX Spectrum anyone?
Anyway I think the hate is going to slow down soon. Not that the game is flawless just that people are getting extremely tired of people banging on about the same things.
I’m glad there are some that want to express their love of this game on the forums. My geas is telling me to play some more Halo 4 xD. Can’t resist.
Anyway thanks for the post
I started with the very first Halo when I was only 4 years old. This was my very first game and I’m proud to have been playing Halo all the years. I have every Halo that has been developed to this point. In my opinion, I think Halo 4 is a good game but it definitely is lacking some things but more can be fixed. After 343 acknowledged that they know about the things that many people were complaining about and after they released a TU addressing those issues, I’m convinced that 343 will continue to do more work.
And to all the others bashing the OP because of his opinion, please do us a favor and just leave us alone. His opinion is his and is not the same as yours so it cannot be wrong. Your opinion is not the right nor it is wrong. I’m disgusted by people who say that their opinion is right and that others are just wrong.
To OP: I’m like you, I’ve been a fan since the beginning and I am not one of those people who quit on 343. I understand that this game is not perfect but like you said, “343i took a step and tripped, but they got back up and kept going. Fixing their mess with ease” I believe in this too. I believe that 343i can fix their mistakes and I am not going to be a quitter on this franchise. I will not choose the path that many others took because they just could not be patient. Thanks for posting OP!
> NO…no…this is a wrong opinion…
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> ive played the game and series since i was six as well… and i have played all the halos…
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> and by saying “theyve only played since halo 2” means theyve been playing a pretty long time… nd since halo 3 was pretty similar to halo 2… that is a pretty good start as well…
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> halo is dead…it will never come back to its golden days…
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> evidence of this is that they brought back one of the greatest maps in the franchise… valhalla… and made it unfair, unfun, and overall sucky to play on.
This is your opinion, not his. And again, you should not be allowed to call others opinions wrong. In your eyes, Halo may be dead but that is not the same vision as everyone else. Please be nice and don’t call others opinions wrong or incorrect. Just respect their opinion and formally reply to why you disagree with their opinion.
> You’re a 130 in a game you apparently think is garbage. Who’s in denial? I honestly like this game a hell of a lot more than I liked H3. It’s fun, and can be competitive. Throwdown is a very competitive playlist if you’re against decent opponents. I’m baffled by how much people hate on 343 without realizing it was their beloved Bungie who crapped on the game and changed its direction in Reach. The game still isn’t as competitive before, but it’s a step in the right direction after Reach led the series astray.
You’ve got to be kidding right? It’s true that Bungie screwed up with Halo Reach. But that was just a sure sign that it was time for them to move away from the Halo franchise. 343i was supposed to clean up Bungie’s little mess but, instead, added on to the mistakes that Bungie made. Halo 4 can be competitive at times, but nowhere near as competitive as Halo 2 & 3. Why do you think MLG dropped Halo 4 from their Pro Circuit???
The main reason people hate on 343i is because they tried to appeal their game to the Call of Duty community instead of the Halo community which was beyond a foolish mistake. They barely listen to the community that Bungie crafted during the first decade of the Halo franchise. It is a company filled with ignorant game developers that only ASSUME what their audience wants. The only 343 employee that knows what properly makes a Halo game is Bravo and, unfortunately, he joined 343i AFTER Halo 4’s core development.
I’ve said this many times before and I’ll proudly say this again. Bungie is the superior company. Their games included a huge variety of options and tools necessary for players to play their games THE WAY THEY WANTED TO PLAY THEM.
So far, 343 Industries has stripped Halo 4 of those options and tools so that players play their game THE WAY 343 INDUSTRIES WANTS THEM TO PLAY IT.
> > > > > I agree with OP.
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> > > > > I love halo 4, i love how 343 manage to change things but keeping the same style.
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> > > > > 343, halo 5 will be epic!
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> > > > What style? COD style?
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> > > What is wrong with COD?
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> > > I am a Halo fan BTW 
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> > NOthing wrong with COD. Wrong it´s play Halo with same Yoink! COD have. Gamestyle, loadouts…
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> It’s not just COD that has those features.
> So it’s not just innovation from COD, it’s innovation from modern gaming.
Why do we need to modernize halo? Generic military first person shooters have become bland. I don’t understand why perks, flinch, streaks and loadouts need to contaminate halo. It has become a game of randomneas and free power weapons for all. No1 asked for this crap after halo 3. Everone wanted an improved sequel that followed after halo 3. That ate out of Reach’s hand…
Bungie and 343 are to blame.
Playing the entire series just gives you perspective, it doesn’t give you the ability to discern good from bad.
Honestly as much as I’m sure people who love all the entries of halo want to make 343 feel good they can’t ignore that halo 4 has shortcomings.
For me personally, halo 4 felt like the development was a bit disjointed and rushed.
The multiplayer is lacking some features and polish and the singleplayer lacks diversity.
Halo 4 also doesn’t follow the progression of previous titles to build upon all features of previous instalments.
for example: vehicle, weapon types, gametypes and enemy types are missing.
Each successive halo game improved upon the previous yet in the case of halo 4 we are missing covenant types, weapons, vehicles (Hornet/falcon/scarab/any new ones). Granted, halo 4 does offer some new enemies and weapons but some of the weapons are basically reskins and do nothing to change up the gameplay while enemies have their annoyances (invincible teleporting, cowardly tactics). It doesn’t help that the covenant offer nothing new (apart from the lich).
I enjoyed halo 4, I thought it was beautifully done and when it shines, boy does it SHINE. With that said, you’d be kidding yourself if you didn’t admit that there are some aspects of the game that are upsetting and hinder the fufilment one can experience. A lot of work went into it, so it seems unfair to say there could have been more but the fact remains that there exist some glaring ommissions.
I love playing Halo 4. However the Multiplayer is plagued with randomness and it gets so dang frustrating at times. Infinity crap needs to be put into a social playlist and bring back a classic game, with classic rules.
MK V armor is about the last thing that is needed.
I absolutely agree with you OP!
Halo 4 has the core Halo fundamentals. Don’t you see guys and gals? All you gotta do is take out JIP, Kill Cams, Load-Outs, AA’s, put in a Ranking System, and it’s practically Halo.
The sooner you all realize this… the better the game will be.
DUHHHH
I like Halo 4 too, but I have to admit that 343 took a huge step back from what Halo multiplayer is supposed to be.