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Apparently, this guy claims to have read the new game informer magazine. If you haven’t already, read his topic. This is ridiculous! After waiting and itching to get my hands on this game, I find out this is just Reach 2.0 mixed with a whole bunch of Call of Duty crap!

Here’s an image the gent shared that gave more proof:

I will admit it, I’m legitimately scared for Halo. If Halo 4 gets rejected by again by the community like Reach did, it will have a very small fan base to keep it on it’s feet. Sprint, a default armor ability. Holograms, jetpacks and more… no firefight, random weapon spawns??? THESE ARE -Yoinking!- BAD IDEAS!!

343, you blew it. Screw you.

Call of duty crap?? LOL since when did CoD have a supersoldier in the 2500s

The only thing that -Yoinking!- sucks about all the info he shared was the forunner vision ( xray vision, see through walls) But im sure there is negatives to it like you can only use it once a game ect, stop being a moany -Yoink- and accept that halo is evolving.
ALSO there is a -Yoinking!- multiplayer story mode. COME THE -Yoink- ON MAN! thats kick -Yoink-!!! you guys care to much about mp and not campaign and you call yourself true halo fans. True video game fans will follow the games STORY not mindlessly play multiplayer which is what the cod community is known for.

I agree a few things are iffy but they can be addressed it is at least 6 months till -Yoinking!- launch.


this is his post

This was probably my most favorite addition I saw. From how it was described, think fo Spartan Ops like Spec Ops from Modern Warfare but with a storyline. They will span out over several months, encouraging players to return to the game. Game Informer said that Spartan Ops will be comparable in scope and size to the in single-player storyline.

Why Reds Fight Blues

I think most of us probably guessed this, but reds fight blues and blues fight reds for training purposes. They fight in something called the UNSC Infinity. The UNSC Infinity is a 3km long ship sent into deep space on a mission. It contains a virtual reality sector that creates the multiplayer experience.


So not only is sprint in the game, but it is a standard armor ability. You do not need to pick it up, it will always be available. You do not need to buy it with your Spartan Points, you will always have it equipped no matter what. So essentially, you can have two armor abilities.

Forerunner Vision

Ever wanted to be super man? Now you can! See through walls with your x-ray vision! I can’t say I hate this armor ability, I haven’t used it yet. I’m hoping it comes with its weaknesses and it discourages camping. Sorry guys, but camping in Halo 4 will not be a legitimate tactic.

Returning Armor Abilities

The hologram, jetpack, and active camo will make a return in Halo 4. It didn’t elaborate on the abilities, but you can probably assume they’ll be about the same.

Elites Not Returning to Multiplayer

Not much detail was given as to why elites will not see multiplayer combat, it was stated in a picture caption. The caption reads, "Competitive multiplayer focues on the Spartan IVs. Elites will not be playable.


Now the article itself did not talk about grenades, but I noticed in the picture the Spartan had 4 grenade options. I assume the plasma grenade will return as seen from an explosion in the picture and the frag grenade will most definitely return as seen by the Halo 4 first look video.


Once again, no explanation why aside from a picture caption. The caption read, "Halo 4’s campaign is still playable with four players online (in reference to Sparan Ops, ensuring players that Spartan Ops will not replace the campaign coop experience). 343 Industries has no plans to include a dedicated Firefight mode. I’m torn on this, I don’t normally play firefight, but I feel like it is a standard necessary feature in the game after Halo 3: ODST introduced it.


Regicide is a variation of free for all. I think it’s similar to VIP. Regicide, as stated by the article, “sets the leading scorer as the king. Every opponent that the king kills raises his bounty; other players have to kill the king to claim the reward.”

Distraction and Revenge Medals

Don’t feel bad anymore for not killing a single person in the game, you can get a medal for being a distraction! Oh, you just got killed and now you’re raging at that player? Calm down and get rewarded for hunting down the guy that just killed you!

Let me make it clear that I do not necessarily see these medals as bad. They just may reward people that don’t actually deserve one.

No More Weapon Camping

One the skills that separated veteran players from inexperienced players was the ability to time power weapons’ spawns. In Halo 4, this will be near impossible. Weapons drop down in drop pods at random locations around the map. Quoted from the article, “This gives the matches other focal points, and it also helps alleviate the advantage longtime players always used to have over newer recruits; the best weapons are not always going to be found at the same spawn locations.” Unless there is a distinguishable skill gap between players, I most definitely do not like this idea.

No More Respawn Delay

Immediately after you die, by tapping the X button you are sent back into the match. Now let’s contemplate why this might be bad. Let’s say Halo spawns are… not so great. A skilled player out BRs/DMRs/whatevers a unskilled player. Now that unskilled player can immediately respawn and find you before your shields even regenerate! I understand 343 is trying to speed up the game, but they must understand the consequences of instant spawns.

Joining In-Progress Games

So to solve the quitting problem, 343 implemented the ability to join games that are in-progress. My question is are we going to have the ability to search for games starting up instead? It infuriates me to join a game at the last possible second, not even offering me the chance to play.

I’ll be updating this post as I see fit. Feel free to correct me, add your own insight, or add what I may have missed.

No elites… :’(

Yeah but the thing people dont realize about the Halo games is that they are very customizable to each player’s preference. What I mean is that if 343i can shell out a TU for Reach, they can sure as hell change up a few gametype options for a playlist.

You want competitive gameplay?? Cool, there will probably be an MLG playlist and many other ranked playlists that will just feature the barebones of Halo gameplay like, no sprint, armor not affecting gameplay, no AA’s, no random respawn timers for weapons, no instant respawn by pressing X, etc.

I understand your worries but please consider the options that you may very well have when the full game ships.

Most of these things would ruin the game. If it is all true, then I will not be purchasing Halo 4…

people should calm down

That Elite looks horrible. Why is its feet so big, and large?

Can someone explain to me how this guy has it but no one else does?

> That Elite looks horrible. Why is its feet so big, and large?

Did you see the other Spec Ops red elite??? Now that elite looks badass.

cry moar

> > That Elite looks horrible. Why is its feet so big, and large?
> Did you see the other Spec Ops red elite??? Now that elite looks badass.

His feet was a little too big though, or maybe that was just the camera angle.

> you guys care to much about mp and not campaign and you call yourself true halo fans. True video game fans will follow the games STORY not mindlessly play multiplayer which is what the cod community is known for.

Oh, you mean not following a game because it has revolutionized multiplayer shooters based on its skill based gameplay though multiplayer? What are you, an idiot? I’m pretty sure everyone that buys Halo loves the story and cares about what goes on, but I don’t spend money on games to replay the story over and over again.

If the multiplayer is how it is being laid out to be, which I am still skeptical on because this is not official, I will not buy this game and it will be a bust. Reason: Making a game that appeals to CoD players can be smart, but if no one buys the game there is no one to tell the CoD players to buy it. A lot of the multiplayer fanbase left after Reach because Reach is a competitive abomination so unless this attracts the old playerbase back it will not sell the way a Halo game should sell. Yes, they will make money, but it won’t be what they could make.

Once again, I don’t believe these rumors yet, but if they are true I will not buy this game. Making it the first Halo game I refuse to purchase.

343 blew it.

and if the info is incorrect 343 needs to get their head out of their -Yoink- and do some PR control.

What i really hate here is, you’ve got true fans who are ranting for a good reason then you have the -Yoinking!- idiots who are following the true fans to try and fit in. Stick to your own opinions ffs, im not a fan of the xray shizzle but im happy about that spartan ops it sounds awesome finally some secondary missions we can do with friends (all games have them now)! and firefight, well it kinda did die after reach lets be honest.

Just remember there is going to be mlg and classic playlists so choose them if your not happy with the changes.


Well this game is done. They’re ruining what brought the long time fans into the franchise. If I wanted call of duty I would play that. Instant respawn, more AA’s, sprint, weapons spawning at random times. Halo 4 can go die in a fire if this is what they’re bring to the game.

Do not judge a book by its cover. People are going to be looking at it for a few days trying to figure things out. When it comes down to it, Halo has always been a sci-fi shooter at heart. COD is not a sci-fi shooter at all. Like I’ve said before, Halo and COD are opposite extreme’s of each other in terms of putting 2 and 2 together.

secondly, I participated in mid-Halo 3 discussions asking what others thought of when it came to mission based gameplay systems. To allow specific famous operations to be handed down to players to enrich the campaign experience. I am a campaign-oriented guy. I enjoy jumping into Halo: reach or 3 or ODST to do a campaign run. Heck, just for old times sake, I popped in ODST a week or two ago to have fun on the campaign. With regard to this, I can understand MANY players are solely matchmaking people, but your not in the multiplayer threads anymore. Your in the Halo 4 thread. And many of us are fine with the direction its going.

Thirdly, my Halo career began with Halo: CE, a few good and trusty friends getting together every Friday - Sunday morning to pop in something that can’t hold a LIGHT to Halo: Reach, CEA, and soon to be Halo 4. I’m not judging the possibilities of failure on 343’s part, but I’m sure that if your thinking your not going to get Halo 4 because of what you see, then my response is: what made you enjoy Halo so much? the simplicity? Halo is not a miniature game anymore. It’s a franchise with THOUSANDS of people in it now. I know that’s a hard thing to imagine, but that’s the reality. You are one vote, one opinion, one ultimate idea, if you can’t have faith in 343 doing this with the classic experience already confirmed, then have the faith to get the game, try it out, and bring the edge of competitive gaming that your known for into the next Halo game. This franchise is going to continue, one way or another, you can choose to enjoy it in the new system… or you can get angry and not buy the game. either way, Halo is still here and will continue so long as people are willing to play it.

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This post though

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> This post though

I know right-- it’s like they’re from the past, or something.