Damn You, 343

The reveal of Halo 5 beta was horrendous. We have aim down sight, thruster pack (the most OP ability from Halo 4), sprint, ground pound, and other hideous changes to the game. What the hell have they done? Why, 343? For the love of God, why?

EDIT: I initially raged when I saw the abilities in the tutorial and hadn’t seen the actual gameplay to see how they would be used in action. After carefully watching the entire match, I am pleased that ADS is not included, but is actually a zoom toggle. I am also pleased that the gameplay seemed very balanced and fast paced. It’s actually everything I was hoping for in a Halo game in terms of being able to move around the map. The only thing I am slightly concerned about is the thruster pack with the sword being OP. Other than that, great job, 343.

ADS that isn’t ADS? What were you watching? Thruster Pack was most OP? Did you know that almost no one used it in Halo 4? Sprint? Since when has a SUPER SOLDIER not been able to sprint in the ACTUAL lore made by Bungie in 2001? Ground pound? It took forever to slam, give me a break.

Your literally hating just cause. These aren’t valid reasons and its the only thing keeping YOUR Halo alive.

i knew this would happen but i like the gameplay

So going to buy this Game.

Halo 5 gameplay looks -Yoink!-

The graphics look nice but I don’t like how they’re making maps small

Not a fan of the ADS, don’t care if its only cosmetic what was wrong with aiming before? Pandering to the cod crowd wont get us anywhere.

sprint not recharging shields is a step in the right direction I guess.

I’d prefer if the magnum kept its zoom feature from days of halo’s past.

I’m a huge fan of the thruster pack and slide.

charge and ground pound ill have to wait to play to judge them.

the multiplayer exhibition match actually looks pretty great in my opinion.

the new health bar + shield bar is cool too.

After watching the actual match, all of my fears are put to rest. The abilities seem very balances, and the ADS is not ADS after all. It looks really good, honestly. Damn, my heart nearly fell out of my -Yoink- for a minute there. The only thing I don’t like is the thruster pack combined with the sword. It makes it damn near invincible.

Mother of God.

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> Not a fan of the ADS, don’t care if its only cosmetic what was wrong with aiming before? Pandering to the cod crowd wont get us anywhere.

To be fair, this isn’t exactly harmful. Aiming is unchanged and if it maybe helps other gamers transition from traditional shooters to Halo, is it a problem?

It wasn’t horrendous. I saw good core gameplay with some unnecessary features tacked on. At the very least it’s shaping up to be better than Reach and 4.

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> After watching the actual match, all of my fears are put to rest. The abilities seem very balances, and the ADS is not ADS after all. It looks really good, honestly. Damn, my heart nearly fell out of my -Yoink- for a minute there. The only thing I don’t like is the thruster pack combined with the sword. It makes it damn near invincible.

Same here, I was afraid it was gonna be as crappy as destiny PvP.

But yeah after the match I’m not to worried, excited really.

Of course the thruster pack will either be nerfed like hell and rendered pointless, or just removed. Plus classic slayer is back first to 50 points, none of that crappy ordinance kill streak points crap.

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> After watching the actual match, all of my fears are put to rest. The abilities seem very balances, and the ADS is not ADS after all. It looks really good, honestly. Damn, my heart nearly fell out of my -Yoink- for a minute there. The only thing I don’t like is the thruster pack combined with the sword. It makes it damn near invincible.

You. I like you. It’s not often you see someone who so readily changes an opinion when presented with more information. Kudos.

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> > After watching the actual match, all of my fears are put to rest. The abilities seem very balances, and the ADS is not ADS after all. It looks really good, honestly. Damn, my heart nearly fell out of my -Yoink- for a minute there. The only thing I don’t like is the thruster pack combined with the sword. It makes it damn near invincible.
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> You. I like you. It’s not often you see someone who so readily changes an opinion when presented with more information. Kudos.

Thank you. I can admit when I am wrong. That gameplay really impressed me. I was horrified during the tutorial footage, but the match completely changed my mind. Wow. I am really excited for this game, now.

I like the look of everything except for ADS… Halo doesn’t need ADS, not at all. Even if it’s the way it is, it’s just… No… Keep this out of Halo, please.

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> I like the look of everything except for ADS… Halo doesn’t need ADS, not at all. Even if it’s the way it is, it’s just… No… Keep this out of Halo, please.

I initially thought it was ADS, too, but it’s not. It’s zoom for each of the weapons, which is also kicked out once shot (descope rather than flinch). I think we’re good here.

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> > I like the look of everything except for ADS… Halo doesn’t need ADS, not at all. Even if it’s the way it is, it’s just… No… Keep this out of Halo, please.
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> I initially thought it was ADS, too, but it’s not. It’s zoom for each of the weapons, which is also kicked out once shot (descope rather than flinch). I think we’re good here.

Its like people are inable to comprehend that its all visual.

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> I like the look of everything except for ADS… Halo doesn’t need ADS, not at all. Even if it’s the way it is, it’s just… No… Keep this out of Halo, please.

I agree, I don’t care if it is just a “look” thing, it looks like ADS, I don’t want it. How it was is so much better…Please take that out 343

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> > Not a fan of the ADS, don’t care if its only cosmetic what was wrong with aiming before? Pandering to the cod crowd wont get us anywhere.
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> To be fair, this isn’t exactly harmful. Aiming is unchanged and if it maybe helps other gamers transition from traditional shooters to Halo, is it a problem?

People get emotionally attached to certain elements in games. I won’t lie, at first I had that weird mixed feeling when I saw it, but then used my brain and realized they basically added scoping animations instead of circle with a reticle in the middle.

Thruster Pack: As someone who used Thruster Pack almost exclusively until the Halo 4 turbo update and someone who has been asking for this, I am very excited for Thruster Pack as a default ability (and first person!)

Ground Pound: I really don’t know how this is going to play out. As long as it isn’t too easy to use or has a large AoE, I hink it will be fine. I highly doubt the Ground Pound will be the best addition, but if it’s balanced properly it may be able to avoid much disdain.

Sprint: As an advocate of Sprint, I must say I am glad to see it still in Halo. Now that it is tied to shields and health it may have finally found its place in Halo. Map scaling is the only problem that I can foresee lingering around.

Slide: This ability could be interesting, especially if the maps are built in a way that promote its use.

Charge: I fear that Charge will be too OP, but like Ground Pound I’ll have to wait and see for myself.

Clamber: It seems gimmicky, but it shouldnt be a terrible addition.

Smart Scope: This will be the best change IMO. Basically the classic halo scope will remain but it will become more immersive. Also the readdition of descope cannot be understated, this is huge for gameplay!

Also the new Perfect Kill medal, and the new shield/health bar looks awesome. The only thing I don’t really care for arethe sound effects, but its a wip. I have faith that 343 will get this stuff sorted out and that this will be my favourite Halo to date.