It seems like a complete waste of resources having Spartans in non combat roles. Palmer and Miller guiding the Spartans through their missions, and Dalton piloting a pelican. Couldn’t the UNSC use people that didn’t have extensive enhancements and training in the field? I would also assume there to be other Spartans like Dalton and Miller for the other fireteams. They don’t need Spartans for those roles, they could of used anybody.
It likely has to do with the Spartans being their own independent branch of the military now. So all personnel within that branch operating in various roles are Spartans.
I don’t know about you, but if I was a pilot of a pelican, I would greatly appreciate benefit from the drastic improvement to survivability as a spartan. Pilots die when shot down. If not from the impact, then from bein overrun by enemies who seek supplies from the downed ship.
Not only does this make skilled pilots more likely to live through a near impossible mission(s), it also makes a skilled pilot that much moreso. And seeing as how the Spartans are a volunteer only program, they’ve become more like an actual military branch than just some prototype experiment.
As for Palmer, she likely earned her right to lead the Spartans and has had plenty of successful operations to warrant her being a little less of a frontline warrior.
well when we first meet palmer she is in a combat mission with Lasky( a campain mission i do not recall the name of) so she probly does other missions like all the other spartains, that we dont see.
I completely agree that the Spartans running ops and flying is definitely more in line with the Spartans becoming their own military branch. The Spartan IV’s are not brand new the have been around while John was sleeping. It makes sense that you would have Spartans move up in the ranks and run Spartan missions. Who knows the capabilities and needs of a Spartan fire team better then a fellow Spartan?
As for Spartan pilots they can probably fly better then any normal person if they have all the Spartan II augmentations because of the increased reflexes and intelligence. That and all the reasons stated above.
It is the evolution of the Spartan program and as such you need to have room to grow and move up. You cannot run special ops your entire career. Besides you want people with field experience to run ops, not someone who has no idea what you are going through.
> Besides you want people with field experience to run ops, <mark>not someone who has no idea what you are going through.</mark>
Cough Captain Del Rio Cough
Would you really trust a marine who can barely drive a Warthog with the lives of dozens of Spartan IV’s who have a value of millions of dollars and have experience that outmatches any soldier human or not? Didn’t think so.
> Would you really trust a marine who can barely drive a Warthog with the lives of dozens of Spartan IV’s who have a value of millions of dollars and have experience that outmatches any soldier human or not? Didn’t think so.
your over-exaggerating the Spartan IV’s experience quite a bit.Their nothing more than glorified marines, and so far, their performance in combat is pretty poor.
I really find it odd how Miller is suited in his MJOLNIR armor, yet he does no field work.
> > Would you really trust a marine who can barely drive a Warthog with the lives of dozens of Spartan IV’s who have a value of millions of dollars and have experience that outmatches any soldier human or not? Didn’t think so.
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> your over-exaggerating the Spartan IV’s experience quite a bit.Their nothing more than glorified marines, and so far, their performance in combat is pretty poor.
and your basing their performance off of…
> > > Would you really trust a marine who can barely drive a Warthog with the lives of dozens of Spartan IV’s who have a value of millions of dollars and have experience that outmatches any soldier human or not? Didn’t think so.
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> > your over-exaggerating the Spartan IV’s experience quite a bit.Their nothing more than glorified marines, and so far, their performance in combat is pretty poor.
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> and your basing their performance off of…
What we’ve seen in the spartan ops video. Not following orders, breaking cover, etc. their letting their ego get in the way, like I said their just glorified marines, not true Spartans.
A better question is why aren’t the Dbags in majestic put in those non-combat roles? I mean seriously, who let Demarco become a Spartan-IV in the first place? XD
I´m more interested as to why they’re so bloody Mary sue as to take on legions of Promethean Knights and Covenant forces.
Noble team never pulled that -Yoink-.
> > > > Would you really trust a marine who can barely drive a Warthog with the lives of dozens of Spartan IV’s who have a value of millions of dollars and have experience that outmatches any soldier human or not? Didn’t think so.
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> > > your over-exaggerating the Spartan IV’s experience quite a bit.Their nothing more than glorified marines, and so far, their performance in combat is pretty poor.
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> > and your basing their performance off of…
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> What we’ve seen in the spartan ops video. Not following orders, breaking cover, etc. their letting their ego get in the way, like I said their just glorified marines, not true Spartans.
I don’t even like how they get called Spartans. All they’ve had were a few augments to give them the ability to wear MJOLNIR armour right? Simply having better armour does not a Spartan make.
The confusing part about Palmer is that she is wearing her armor inside the Infinity while commanding her forces? Why would anyone wear their battlefield armor without having to do any real fighting work?! Just a simple question for anyone to answer ,don’t rage on me for that…
…on a completely different topic…
who do you think would win a wargame if Noble Team with the previous Noble 6 were to be pitted against Fire Team Majestic?
> > > > > Would you really trust a marine who can barely drive a Warthog with the lives of dozens of Spartan IV’s who have a value of millions of dollars and have experience that outmatches any soldier human or not? Didn’t think so.
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> > > > your over-exaggerating the Spartan IV’s experience quite a bit.Their nothing more than glorified marines, and so far, their performance in combat is pretty poor.
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> > > and your basing their performance off of…
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> > What we’ve seen in the spartan ops video. Not following orders, breaking cover, etc. their letting their ego get in the way, like I said their just glorified marines, not true Spartans.
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> I don’t even like how they get called Spartans. All they’ve had were a few augments to give them the ability to wear MJOLNIR armour right? Simply having better armour does not a Spartan make.
So we’re basing all S-IV performance on one video that shows one fire-team’s frak up? Seems totally fair…
And nobody knows what augments the S-IVs got. If anything, it’s probably the same form of augments the S-IIIs received, if not slightly different due to medical advances. Plus didn’t Ackerson mention something about that in GoO? How, in due time, it would be possible to augment all of humanity?
NOBLE would win because there are more of them.
Other than that They had the Augmentations which made them mentaly unstable, they were more ruthless from what i’ve seen/read.
Majestic are just cowboys.
And in response to the guy saying that we shouldnt base our thoguths on the SIV program based on one fire team…
THESE SPARTANS ARE CRAP IN CAMPAGIN TOO
Thats plenty to go by in my book…
I think it is meant to show how un Spartan like these IV’s are. It seems like they are up their own -Yoink-'s. You can clearly see how much better the II’s were and even the III’s, being trained to be the silent types and ruthless killing machines.
Halsey doesn’t seem that impressed with the IV’s either, especially that scene in the lift from the last Spartan Ops episode.
> NOBLE would win because there are more of them.
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> Other than that They had the Augmentations which made them mentaly unstable, they were more ruthless from what i’ve seen/read.
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> Majestic are just cowboys.
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> And in response to the guy saying that we shouldnt base our thoguths on the SIV program based on one fire team…
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> <mark>THESE SPARTANS ARE CRAP IN CAMPAGIN TOO</mark>
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> Thats plenty to go by in my book…
Really? Name one thing that they’ve done in campaign to give you that immpresion. Because im SURE that you must already know that gameplay doesnt equal cannon.
You guys are missing the point. These soldiers, yes, they are Spartans. They are strong and fully capable of intense military action, but in their heads. They’re still marines. They weren’t trained to think like a Spartan. They were just given the tools and capabilities of a Spartan.