The Multiplayer is a cluster–Yoink- of spam, camping and team-shooting that would only please a mindless moron. Infection is also a heap of steaming excrement now, it’s better to be a zombie than a human.
Customs have been butchered, Race, possibly the most common gametype played in customs was removed, why in the -Yoink- they removed it is beyond me, there were whole communities dedicated to race. Now they’re dead unless it’s added again.
They also ruined infection for customs, the infected look like ugly mofos, and that can’t be toggled, they also can’t use any weapon except the flood talon and humans can’t have custom colors. Not to mention that sprint can’t be toggled, in any gametype.
Assuming there’s a TU that addresses all of Halo 4’s blatant flaws I will try it again, if not, i’ll only be playing Spartan Ops and once that’s over it will gather dust in a skip somewhere.
Don’t know why you figure you should make a thread about this. No one here will remember you for long enough to warrant you saying goodbye. There are hundreds of threads saying nearly the same thing as you. None of them unique. Neither is this one.
So you have a problem. A lot of people do. Suck it up and either keep on playing or find another game.
I seriously hope whichever choice you DO make you have a hell of a lot of fun. No reason you shouldn’t find a game you enjoy. More power to you.
> The <mark>Multiplayer is a cluster–Yoink!- of spam, camping and team-shooting</mark> that would only please a mindless moron. Infection is also a heap of steaming excrement now, it’s better to be a zombie than a human.
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> Customs have been butchered, Race, possibly the most common gametype played in customs was removed, why in the -Yoink!- they removed it is beyond me, there were whole communities dedicated to race. Now they’re dead unless it’s added again.
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> They also ruined infection for customs, the infected look like ugly mofos, and that can’t be toggled, they also can’t use any weapon except the flood talon and humans can’t have custom colors. Not to mention that sprint can’t be toggled, in any gametype.
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> Assuming there’s a TU that addresses all of Halo 4’s blatant flaws I will try it again, if not, i’ll only be playing Spartan Ops and once that’s over it will gather dust in a skip somewhere.
For the team shooting part…its always been like that?
Also you should read the bulletin, they can do updates every week to the game, so you will start seeing favourite gametypes in the coming weeks/months.
I agree with alot of your points it’s just that most people on this site are less then 15 years old and don’t realize that you don’t have to accept a lesser product and are so quick to defend this game when clearly 343 messed up and has a lot of things to fix and explaining to do.
> I agree with a l your points it’s just that most people on this site are less then 15 years old and don’t realize that you don’t have to accept a lesser product and are so quick to defend this game when clearly 343 messed up and has a lot of things to fix and explaining to do.
You’re making this statement under the assumption that the <MAJORITY> of the community is dis-pleased with the release content; and flow of the game.
I hate to break it to you; but that is not the case. Competitive modes they hit 100% spot on (MLG modes), with the exception of some minor BR improvements necessary.
These competitive modes are what have the highest priority, and in effect; they were done properly. (Slayer pro etc etc).
The majority of the community is very pleased with the work here; Look at the releases meta-critic and public review scores; it’s a clear cut giveaway that most of the community disagrees with your statement: “when clearly 343 messed up and has a lot of things to fix and explaining to do.”
Someone enjoying what was released does not mean they are 15; which seems to be the correlation you are making here.
There’s a pretty general consensus online that H:4 is the best Halo since H:2, even comparable to “H:CE” in the “fun” department; I for one agree with this sentiment. That’s not to say that there aren’t minor discrepancies I would like to see changed, but to state they “clearly messed up a lot” is just a gross overstatement. 343 hit the nail on the head with 90% of the content they’ve put out at this point, on both mulitplayer and campaign ends.
Halo 4 definitely has a lot of problems, and it doesn’t help that there is a cap.
I wouldn’t mind an xp cap if custom games and forge were actually done correctly (Being used to Reach’s nudge system, it is really annoying not to have it). Every time I hit the cap (which I don’t even have to play the game long to hit) I just stop playing as the only thing that would keep me going would be customs/forge, and matchmaking is only fun with some form of reward.
I actually thought the Reach campaign was better in the way it told the story, Halo 4’s campaign may be more fun, but the actual plot was rushed.
I would rate the FULL Halo games like this (rating correctly for each time period):
Halo CE: 9.5
Halo 2: 9.8
Halo 3: 9.7
Reach: 8.5
Halo 4: 7.8
Now because I bet some 343 follower that is completely sucked in by everything that 343 says I will list the reasons for Halo 4:
-Campaign: Plot Rushed
-Campaign: Most areas were rehashes of previous games
-Campaign: Fun, but still has problems
-Multiplayer: More balanced than Reach
-Multiplayer: Barely any playlists
-Multiplayer: Some maps aren’t used
-Multiplayer: Would prefer less playlists with killcams
-Multiplayer: Would prefer more playlists that are Classic, and give a balanced amount of XP (Team Slayer Pro gives almost nothing)
-Customs: Completely butchered, lack of customization (these define Halo)
-Customs: The gametypes that are available are barely customizable
-Customs: No Juggernaut, VIP, Race, Assault, Classic CTF, Classic Infection
-Forge: Maps are small, some objects are redundant (10 different pipes on Erosion, most good areas are blocked by death barriers (The bottom of the ravine in Ravine)
-Forge: Nudge system removed
Halo 4 is a better game then Halo 3, in my opinion. I’ve noticed a lot of people who talk about it like it was some amazing thing are caught wearing nostalgia goggles.
Halo 3’s customs were better, and it had more large maps than Halo 4.
The campaign was also better than Halo 4’s, and the multiplayer was the classic Halo style. So, not sure how it is better, even Reach improved on the Forge system, while 343 destroyed customs and removed a nice feature that was added in Reach.
The comparisons between Halo 4 and CoD are much more accurate with this game than any other Halo game. Sure, CoD didn’t do any of its things first, but it is the most popular one at the moment.
-Death Cams
-Customizable Loadouts (these are more balanced in H4 though)
-Lack of custom games
-focus on Matchmaking
-Theater that only works in multiplayer
-barely any matchmaking playlists to make the game stale
The <mark>Multiplayer is a cluster–Yoink!- of spam, camping and team-shooting</mark> that would only please a mindless moron. Infection is also a heap of steaming excrement now, it’s better to be a zombie than a human.
Customs have been butchered, <mark>Race, possibly the most common gametype played in customs was removed, why in the -Yoink!- they removed it is beyond me,</mark> there were whole communities dedicated to race. Now they’re dead unless it’s added again.
They also ruined infection for customs, <mark>the infected look like ugly mofos, and that can’t be toggled, they also can’t use any weapon except the flood talon and humans can’t have custom colors.</mark> Not to mention that sprint can’t be toggled, in any gametype.
Assuming there’s a TU that addresses all of Halo 4’s blatant flaws I will try it again, if not, i’ll only be playing Spartan Ops and once that’s over it will gather dust in a skip somewhere.
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Ok so let me get this straight your bashing multiplayer because of camping rarely ever seen camping and even then holograms , promethean vision, and the thruster pack kind of take care of that. spam idk what there spaming and team shooting ( which i belive your saying is just another team focusing fire on a specific person or target thats most vaulnerable or is in their best intrest to take out basically your saying thats bad because players are not stupid.
The Race thing hasent really been taken out just not added YET and even then whats stoping us the gamers who created it without an actual racing gametype in halo 3 or reach from remakeing it? You speak as if the plasma sword was any different from the talon besides asthetics look and really your mad because they made infected players actully look infected instead of Emo spartans? and sprint your acting as if your running at the speed of light while the infected are just walking or shambling like zombies.
I mean come on its as if you recently lost your eyesight and your friends pranked you into beliveing you were playing Halo 4 by putting in CODBO2 and playing the announcer voice overs while you played. hell even if that didnt make much sense it makes more sense than your arguments.
Well I had two good days of playing and I’m now regretting buying the LE edition because I’m pretty much done.
There are so many good ideas in the multiplayer but they’ve been poorly implemented, I’m not going to go over them as there are threads dedicated to that.
> I was 14 when CE dropped and have played nothing but halo since. Reach was garbage but man H4 has to be the best halo since CE.
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> Its funny when you say team shootign when infinity slayer has no bullet friendly fire (rockets and nades still damage)
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> <mark>this game is way more fast paced than anything H2 or 3 were.</mark>
Maybe that’s why some of us don’t like it? It’s one of the many things that separated it from other shooters…why is fast suddenly better?
Now because I bet some 343 follower that is completely sucked in by everything that 343 says I will list the reasons for Halo 4:
-Campaign: Plot Rushed
-Campaign: Most areas were rehashes of previous games
-Campaign: Fun, but still has problems
-Multiplayer: More balanced than Reach
-Multiplayer: Barely any playlists
-Multiplayer: Some maps aren’t used
-Multiplayer: Would prefer less playlists with killcams
-Multiplayer: Would prefer more playlists that are Classic, and give a balanced amount of XP (Team Slayer Pro gives almost nothing)
-Customs: Completely butchered, lack of customization (these define Halo)
-Customs: The gametypes that are available are barely customizable
-Customs: No Juggernaut, VIP, Race, Assault, Classic CTF, Classic Infection
-Forge: Maps are small, some objects are redundant (10 different pipes on Erosion, most good areas are blocked by death barriers (The bottom of the ravine in Ravine)
-Forge: Nudge system removed
I admit after beating it the plot did feel a bit rushed but watching all the terminals in the game it actully all connects and the plot dosent really seem as rushed. I would say the compaign presentation wise was kind of a mixed bag because the plot wasent rushed they just didnt put ALL of the information needed to really explain to the players out there.
On the playlist thing its not really that bad its going to be updated with the playlists people want and things can be changed to the likeing of the player population its just going to take some time and really after working on this game for 3+ years pushing the 360 to even greater extents to bring us the next chapter of Halo i belive they deserve more than how long has it been seince Halo 4 came out… yea they need more than 4 days time.
> > most people on this site are less then 15 years old
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> That couldn’t be further from the truth. Most of the long time fans are much older now because they started playing 11 years ago with Halo 1.
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> Just because people disagree with you doesn’t mean they’re 15.
So you’re telling me “y r u so buttmad??? halo 4 is bettr den u” is from a 25-year old?
> Now because I bet some 343 follower that is completely sucked in by everything that 343 says I will list the reasons for Halo 4:
> -Campaign: Plot Rushed
> -Campaign: Most areas were rehashes of previous games
> -Campaign: Fun, but still has problems
> -Multiplayer: More balanced than Reach
> -Multiplayer: Barely any playlists
> -Multiplayer: Some maps aren’t used
> -Multiplayer: Would prefer less playlists with killcams
> -Multiplayer: Would prefer more playlists that are Classic, and give a balanced amount of XP (Team Slayer Pro gives almost nothing)
> -Customs: Completely butchered, lack of customization (these define Halo)
> -Customs: The gametypes that are available are barely customizable
> -Customs: No Juggernaut, VIP, Race, Assault, Classic CTF, Classic Infection
> -Forge: Maps are small, some objects are redundant (10 different pipes on Erosion, most good areas are blocked by death barriers (The bottom of the ravine in Ravine)
> -Forge: Nudge system removed
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> I admit after beating it the plot did feel a bit rushed but watching all the terminals in the game it actully all connects and the plot dosent really seem as rushed. I would say the compaign presentation wise was kind of a mixed bag because the plot wasent rushed they just didnt put ALL of the information needed to really explain to the players out there.
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> On the playlist thing its not really that bad its going to be updated with the playlists people want and things can be changed to the likeing of the player population its just going to take some time and really after working on this game for 3+ years pushing the 360 to even greater extents to bring us the next chapter of Halo i belive they deserve more than how long has it been seince Halo 4 came out… yea they need more than 4 days time.
I will give them time, but a game’s rating should be judging how it is at the time of release, and 343i did say it was going to be the most customizable Halo so far, and in reality that only applies to the armor. It also doesn’t help that they haven’t said anything on what they would bring to it, and just gave a “Wait and See” form of response which is just idiotic, and just shows a lack of respect for the fans (especially the classic ones). The many CoD players that 343i tried to appeal to with Halo 4 won’t know a great customizable game as they never played one, but the classic players will always remember.