Well based off Greenskull’s new customization video, emblems are confirmed to be preset. Armor, we’ve already known to be limited by not allowing us to mix armors together. With Presets, customization has taken like 5 steps backwards.
For emblems, you can only change color, but there is a new option called “style.” Within the color you choose, there are multiple styles for that color. Wait, what happened to us having full control over how we want stylize our colors? We can choose color, but can’t choose what parts we want to be made differently. There is no toggling your emblem. Of all things, this something they shouldn’t have changed in Halo, but improved upon. It should have been evolutionary based off Reach or H4, but we have devolution.
The lamest excuse I’ve heard from people that have fully excepted things like preset armor were, “they are making easier for themselves and it’s hard to make sure all armors can fit together well.” Yeah they are making it easier for themselves, and Bungie had no problem giving us full control over our armor and emblems. On top of that, Bungie released their games without missing features on day 1. So it has nothing to do with “time constraint” for customization.
I still want a 343 employee to give an explanation on all of this, as we have none.
I do agree that 343 is pretty poor when it comes to engaging with the community; we’re always left without answers. However, I’m not really that concerned about customising my emblem really, but that’s just me.
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> Well based off Greenskull’s new customization video, emblems are confirmed to be preset. Armor, we’ve already known to be limited by not allowing us to mix armors together. With Presets, customization has taken like 5 steps backwards.
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> For emblems, you can only change color, but there is a new option called “style.” Within the color you choose, there are multiple styles for that color. Wait, what happened to us having full control over how we want stylize our colors? We can choose color, but choose what parts we want to be made differently. There is no toggling your emblem. Of all things, this something they shouldn’t have changed in Halo, but improved upon. It should have been evolutionary based off Reach or H4, but we have devolution.
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> The lamest excuse I’ve heard from people that have fully excepted things like preset armor were, “they are making easier for themselves and it’s hard to make sure all armors can fit together well.” Yeah they are making it easier for themselves, and Bungie had no problem giving us full control over our armor and emblems. On top of that, Bungie released their games without missing features on day 1. So it has nothing to do with “time constraint” for customization.
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> I still want a 343 employee to give an explanation on all of this, as we have none.
This is what they have chosen to do, whatever explanation is there?
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> Well based off Greenskull’s new customization video, emblems are confirmed to be preset. Armor, we’ve already known to be limited by not allowing us to mix armors together. With Presets, customization has taken like 5 steps backwards.
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> For emblems, you can only change color, but there is a new option called “style.” Within the color you choose, there are multiple styles for that color. Wait, what happened to us having full control over how we want stylize our colors? We can choose color, but choose what parts we want to be made differently. There is no toggling your emblem. Of all things, this something they shouldn’t have changed in Halo, but improved upon. It should have been evolutionary based off Reach or H4, but we have devolution.
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> The lamest excuse I’ve heard from people that have fully excepted things like preset armor were, “they are making easier for themselves and it’s hard to make sure all armors can fit together well.” Yeah they are making it easier for themselves, and Bungie had no problem giving us full control over our armor and emblems. On top of that, Bungie released their games without missing features on day 1. So it has nothing to do with “time constraint” for customization.
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> I still want a 343 employee to give an explanation on all of this, as we have none.
Because people won’t complain about the explanation at all.
I think for the emblems we only have ourselves to blame, I guess 343 could just have removed the grenade emblem etc but the only people we can blame for loss of emblem creation is those whom can’t help but use a picture of the male genitalia.
I don’t really care for emblems as they serve no valuable purpose. If emblems showed up a bit bigger on armor than what they have been showing up in the previous games than they may mean something more.
As far as the armor goes again I have no problem with this direction either, but for the people that want an evolved version of reach’s armor customization I think they should get that option in halo 6. I would’ve said in halo 5 but I’m not sure a major revamp of the customization is something that could be patched in or am I wrong? I mean I don’t really understand the taking away something that they could have evolved on but whatever like I said it doesn’t bug me
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> > > I think for the emblems we only have ourselves to blame, I guess 343 could just have removed the grenade emblem etc but the only people we can blame for loss of emblem creation is those whom can’t help but use a picture of the male genitalia. We could, but surely they could solely be the reason it’s gone. Also muti quote sucks on mobile Waypoint.
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> > Well based off Greenskull’s new customization video, emblems are confirmed to be preset. Armor, we’ve already known to be limited by not allowing us to mix armors together. With Presets, customization has taken like 5 steps backwards.
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> > For emblems, you can only change color, but there is a new option called “style.” Within the color you choose, there are multiple styles for that color. Wait, what happened to us having full control over how we want stylize our colors? We can choose color, but choose what parts we want to be made differently. There is no toggling your emblem. Of all things, this something they shouldn’t have changed in Halo, but improved upon. It should have been evolutionary based off Reach or H4, but we have devolution.
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> > The lamest excuse I’ve heard from people that have fully excepted things like preset armor were, “they are making easier for themselves and it’s hard to make sure all armors can fit together well.” Yeah they are making it easier for themselves, and Bungie had no problem giving us full control over our armor and emblems. On top of that, Bungie released their games without missing features on day 1. So it has nothing to do with “time constraint” for customization.
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I can’t tell if that was Sarcasm or you actually meant it, but the more we know the better. It just up and went out of no where, and there was absolutely nothing wrong with it.
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> I think for the emblems we only have ourselves to blame, I guess 343 could just have removed the grenade emblem etc but the only people we can blame for loss of emblem creation is those whom can’t help but use a picture of the male genitalia. We could, but surely they could solely be the reason it’s gone. Also muti quote sucks on mobile Waypoint.
Agreed I doubt it is the only reason, but I would assume it is part of the reason we don’t have full customisation or create can our own designs like in forza and cod. I don’t know hopefully in the future there will be more option for people who like it and perhaps 343 can give us options to create our own designs as community designs can be great. They would just need a system in place whereby community designs are sent for approval first before being able to be shared with others.
I think the main issue is that 343i knows perfectly what we want in armour customization : the ability to mix and match pieces, change our emblem colours, not have coloured undersuits. After time and time again, they told us that they hear us, that they know we want black undersuits. And yet, here we are with horrible coloured ones. How difficult would it be to let us choose to have a black undersuit? Not very difficult, I imagine. They told us to wait to see the whole customization menu before judging, and to trust them. And here we waited, and what did we get? We got… Assassinations and stances. Does that make up for severely restricting armour customization? Hell no. Would it be easy for them to listen to us? Most likely. But no, they think we should trust them, just like we did with Halo 4.
I think we’ve learned an important lesson here. When 343i tells us to trust them, it means “Yeah, we screwed up badly but don’t want to admit it, because we knew what you were asking for but decided to simply ignore you”. They should swallow their pride once in a while, and make the game that the fans want, with the options we’ve always had, instead of trying to dumb down Halo to make it “more accessible”.
You say Halo 5 has limited customization but I think it has more. It has more armor sets, emblems, and visors than any other Halo game with even more to come. Plus there’s customizable assassinations, stances, weapons and vehicle skins. I never really cared about emblems or knee pads but I have wanted to change from the same tedious assassination animation or have a larger selection of helmets, which is what we have now. I guess it all depends on how you look at it.
To each their own. There’s more customization, but it’s just a difference in the type of customization rather than an evolution of pre-existing customization.
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> > Well based off Greenskull’s new customization video, emblems are confirmed to be preset. Armor, we’ve already known to be limited by not allowing us to mix armors together. With Presets, customization has taken like 5 steps backwards.
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> > For emblems, you can only change color, but there is a new option called “style.” Within the color you choose, there are multiple styles for that color. Wait, what happened to us having full control over how we want stylize our colors? We can choose color, but choose what parts we want to be made differently. There is no toggling your emblem. Of all things, this something they shouldn’t have changed in Halo, but improved upon. It should have been evolutionary based off Reach or H4, but we have devolution.
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> > The lamest excuse I’ve heard from people that have fully excepted things like preset armor were, “they are making easier for themselves and it’s hard to make sure all armors can fit together well.” Yeah they are making it easier for themselves, and Bungie had no problem giving us full control over our armor and emblems. On top of that, Bungie released their games without missing features on day 1. So it has nothing to do with “time constraint” for customization.
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> > I still want a 343 employee to give an explanation on all of this, as we have none.
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> Because people won’t complain about the explanation at all.
^This. If I were 343 I’d rather have people complaining about the lack of an explanation than having those people hear the explanation and then calling 343 “lazy” or “liars.”
While it irks me (a lot) having to use presets for everything, I understand it now.
They’re going for stability and flexibility. This is their first mainline Halo game on Eighth Generation hardware. They put most of their time into the meat, then formatted the ‘fluff’ (customization) in such a way that while it may be limiting, it can be easily expanded (in number of options) with updates whenever they want.
I’m miffed, but at least I get it now after seeing it. I’m at least glad they seem to have put the bulk of their effort into Campaign and gameplay.
I have been a little perplexed by the apparent scaling down in customization, though selfishly excited that versions of my old armor and emblem are returning for the first time since Halo 3. Like most things, it’s a trade off.
At the end of the day, your bottom line is gameplay, like HJP said.
Of course gameplay comes first, but that’s not what this is about and I know I have no choice but to deal with it. I’m sure I will be excited with the return of certain things, like Security armor, but I just wish I could have more freedom to adjust things to my liking is all.
343 probably think they know every combination people have made, but we know and they have to know they don’t. It would just be better to work off what we’ve already had, as nothing was wrong with the previous system. You may not care much, but I and others do. It’s not trying to cater to everyone’s opinion, before anyone says that, but changing things just because, and we do not know why.