Current state of Halo 4 vs Trilogy and Reach

I love halo and want to congratulate 343 on the daunting task of delivering us halo 4. It could not have been easy. I do like aspects of the game like campaign at times (i was disappointed with story) and the potential that spartan ops has. Hopefully it gets better.

Normally I don’t post let alone use the population argument to claim that a game is dieing however, I was looking at the population of Reach 7-8 months post launch was extremely surprised that it still had anywhere from 500,000 - 700,000 people! Halo 4 recently clocked in a little more than 50,000 the other day with an average now of less than 100,000. I’m not trying to hate on this game because I believe at its core it is the best halo ever. Some serious changes need to come into effect however to bring that population back. I believe it has to do with 343 trying to dumb halo down with ordnance which turns slayer into a fiesta and took away map control, etc. I don’t have to start with load outs, specializations, and “perks” (no matter how much you say they aren’t everyone in the industry knows they are 343) that changed the game from a competitive, strategic environment where fighting for weapons and map positions were key to run around mindlessly killing people till god decides to drop rocket, binary rifle, damage boost, incineration cannon from the sky. The game feels like halo but plays like a cheap call of duty rip off. The dmr destroyed the fun that was BTB because now everyone camps the sides of the map and spams dmr. Having a rifle that everyone spawns with that can shoot across a map like vahalla is game breaking and yet so painfully obvious i don’t know how someone at 343 failed to realize that. This game had the potential to be the best halo to date and while I applaud 343 for taking a chance with some things mentioned above, its not halo and desont play like halo. If they want to make a game like cod go make cod. Halo 3 was more popular than cod because it was nothing like it. It was unique, competitive and still fun with almost no random elements implemented making it fair from the start of a match to the end. it was halo. Halo 4 has armor abilities, specializations, tactical packages, support upgrades, and medals for just about anything. it becomes more difficult for someone to get better when a game is full of unbalanced game changing perks that give some players the advantage over others in otherwise equal scenarios just to cater to newbies (which failed)halo 4 is the least popular halo proved the the HUGE decline in multiplayer (chart links below) and that’s because the so obviously tried to copy cod. Either go back and start from halo 3 or please stop making halo because your alienating all the old fans and not gaining any new ones because the new kids are just gonna play cod instead of this poorly constructed copy.

On a side note there is no excuse for the amount of features that were left out of the game such as file share, assault, custom options, forge to name a few. 343 should have made all existing halo functions top priority and than focused on what they wanted to change and slowly implement their changes overtime to matchmaking. Instead we were given a drastically different and very limited halo and very slowly getting some old features returned. Soon… This has so much potential but I feel the lack of basic and rational decisions making for this game was out the window and is to blame for the decline.

Been playing halo in 01. Ive never done anything like this but for once in my halo career i needed to vent my frustrations and disappointment with this game and the unfortunate cod direction its taking.

Reach Charts
http://forums.bungie.org/halo/archive37.pl?read=1084475

Halo 4 Charts
http://halocharts.com/2012/chart/dailypeakpopulation/all

Should 343 start from halo 3 and build upon that or continue down their current path?

really why does it matter to you what the population is. If you can find a game and have fun then thats it. why would you care about some imaginary number. I mean do you really think that many people are playing cod. Its all for show.

55k is the peak for today? I guess this game really is dead.

personally I liked halo reach better because its UNSC vs Covenant no dodgy fourunner stuff, and we was just an original spartan team getting the job done, kind of like spartan ops.

I’d like to point out that the charts provided in your link for H3/Reach show UUs. If you find the UUs for Halo 4 I assure you they are comparable.

> really why does it matter to you what the population is. If you can find a game and have fun then thats it. why would you care about some imaginary number. I mean do you really think that many people are playing cod. Its all for show.

I’m not trying to use the population as an argument but it helps back my point up that obviously wrong choices were made during the production of this game and people are not happy about this direction. Reach had the ability to maintain the high numbers it had because it was still coming off the sucess of halo 3. After a while people started realizing it wasn’t really halo and started to veer away from reach because it felt like halo but was slowly starting to not play like it. Then 4 takes those things in reach that drove some people away and based their entire game of those ideas and expanded it even more which led to a drastically different halo when it comes to to the fundamentals of what made halo halo. It wasn’t stuff from cod.

I also don’t have that much fun in the game as i used to. An example would be the rouge specialization. Im always playing on complex or whatever and continually find myself getting our dmr’d by people because my aimer is flying all of the screen. Then when i watch the kill cam his aimer is completely still when im placing shots on him. It is no longer about individual skill because that player has a HUGE advantage over me from the start of the game! It’s like increasing the strike zone for players in baseball because they’ve been playing professional longer than others. Or the inzone moving up 10 yards in football because a coach as been coaching for x number of years more than the other and the other gets no advantages! This are huge and obvious flaws. Nobody would watch those sports if it had all that crap and no one plays halo anymore because it has all that crap

i agree 110 percent! well said!