CTF and Ragnarok

CTF=I love
Ragnarok= I love
CTF + Ragnarok= I HATE

I love Halo 4’s multiplayer, don’t get me wrong. But playing this gigantic map and only 5 people per team is kind of ridiculous. In my games everyone just stays in their half of the map and camps. Its boring and its a waste of 15 minutes. My idea is to raise the players in CTF to 6v6. The only problem with that is Abandon would be too crowded. But Ragnarok i believe just needs a couple more players because that huge map being 5v5 is kinda boring and useless. The map is great for CTF, i just think it needs more players. Any ideas?

I disagree, CTF and Ragnarok is a bit stale compared to some of the smaller maps, but I enjoy it very much.

CTF= is ok in a good team
Ragnarok= better on halo 3
CTF + Ragnarok= Ok

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It wouldn’t be a big deal if their were things to fight over on a consistent basis and it didn’t include the Mantis begging to used to camp in CTF. Tanks and similarly powerful vehicles are never a good idea for objective at any size.

Yes! Very true, i feel like the Mantis should be taken out of CTF on Ragnarok because they just camp in their spawn defending their flag.

I agree with your original post. Unfortunately I don’t have any ideas and if i did i don’t think there’s any way to change it. But I have also noticed that I seem to be in a minority of players which find Rang— to be one of the less desirable CTF maps as it always seems to get at least 7 votes every time it pops up as an option.

It just seems like it really slows down the flow to have such a large map. I think another player or two on each team would be helpful but i don’t think there’s any way they’d be able or willing to work that into the mechanics. I’m well aware a lot of other players like it just as it is.

I like CTF on Ragnarok. I think it could do without the Mantises and the man cannons, though.

Feels a little too big for 5v5 CTF…

CTF on Ragnarok is actually really fun, but the Infinity variant kills it for me.

> CTF=I love
> Ragnarok= I love
> CTF + Ragnarok= I HATE
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> I love Halo 4’s multiplayer, don’t get me wrong. But playing this gigantic map and only 5 people per team is kind of ridiculous. In my games everyone just stays in their half of the map and camps. Its boring and its a waste of 15 minutes. My idea is to raise the players in CTF to 6v6. The only problem with that is Abandon would be too crowded. But Ragnarok i believe just needs a couple more players because that huge map being 5v5 is kinda boring and useless. The map is great for CTF, i just think it needs more players. Any ideas?

Not just Ragnatok, but, now Exile too. Both should be BTB CTF types…8v8.

> Yes! Very true, i feel like the Mantis should be taken out of CTF on Ragnarok because they just camp in their spawn defending their flag.

You do realize that 343i created the Mantis to be a defensive vehicle, not an offensive one, right? Even in 343i’s Halo 4 Guide book it states that the Mantis is best used defensively.

I have to agree with this post. Every time I play CTF and this map comes up it is sure to be voted in. The problem is that it is going to take up the whole game time almost every match. I feel this should be removed from CTF playlist and put into a new playlist we could call Big Team Battle. I think it would play so much better that way.

“You do realize that 343i created the Mantis to be a defensive vehicle, not an offensive one, right? Even in 343i’s Halo 4 Guide book it states that the Mantis is best used defensively.”

Sorry I don’t know how to reply to a particular comment but I didn’t know that it was a defensive vehicle. I think what I was trying to say that it kinda ruins the flow of the game because its nearly impossible to get the opposing teams flag because the mantis is there. And also about your previous post about Exile, whenever i play that map everyone runs out in the open and its fast paced so I don’t have a problem with that map, but sometimes it is very slow and boring. Also good idea about the BTB CTF 8v8, that would be really fun.

Ragnarok is my personal favorite CTF map. I can’t stand the DMR Campfest that is Complex, or the random insanity that tends to occur on Adrift. Abandon is not symmetric in any stretch of the word, and I suppose Solace is decent. Actually Solace is a lot of fun.

But Ragnarok…if they removed the Mantis (and the DMR), it would be perfect. I find it funny how we call it large with 5v5 and sprint, but Halo 3 it was a regular for 4v4 CTF and nobody complained.

For CTF the Mantis needs to be taken out, makes it too hard to play when everybody is camping already.

CTF on Ragnarok turns into a boring Camo DMR Campfest that always goes the full length of time with a final score of 0 0 or 1 0. ZZZZZZZZZZZ… wake me when it’s over.

They need it in btb