CSR is a -Yoinking!- joke.

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you have got to be -Yoinking!- kidding me 343. got my level 40 in swat no -Yoinking!- problem. i have 2 laggy matches and I am down to 33.

WHAT THE -Yoinking!- -Yoink- IS THIS

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Yeah nice blocking every swear world. what are we 2 years old or something?

First off, calm down, ok. Second, if you don’t like the CSR system, don’t play the game. Or, educate yourself on how CSR works.

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Well some of us enjoy our sentances without swearing, not because we are wussies, but because we think they don’t add anything of value to the whole picture.

Also, lag has nothing to do with the CSR, your performance, or team’s performance, I’m a little unsure in which slot SWAT goes. Either way, CSR is also not affected by lag, so it can’t take into account and neither should it.

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> Well some of us enjoy our sentances without swearing, not because we are wussies, but because we think they don’t add anything of value to the whole picture.
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> Also, lag has nothing to do with the CSR, your performance, or team’s performance, I’m a little unsure in which slot SWAT goes. Either way, CSR is also not affected by lag, so it can’t take into account and neither should it.

Just to clear the air, Swat CSR is based on individual performance. In other words, if you score the highest on your team, your CSR will increase.

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I am not stupid. I know how the system works. What I am saying is, its ridicules to think that 2 laggy matches can drop me 7 ranks.

I played all night to get the level 40 and all the work was gone because of 2 matches.

And don’t worry I wont be playing this game again, I have been playing halo since halo 1 and this is by far the worst -Yoinking!- game I have played. Makes me angry because I enjoy halo and it has been -Yoinking!- ruined.

what the -Yoink- is sr130? like how hard is it to get to that? not hard at all. this game is a -Yoinking!- joke.

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Again, calm down. CSR is just a number, it means nothing. The only reason I went for a 50 was for the cool flames on it. But seriously, don’t stop playing Halo because of CSR, that’s ridiculous. Play the game to have fun, and don’t worry about your stats.

> > > Yeah nice blocking every swear world. what are we 2 years old or something?
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> > Well some of us enjoy our sentances without swearing, not because we are wussies, but because we think they don’t add anything of value to the whole picture.
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> > Also, lag has nothing to do with the CSR, your performance, or team’s performance, I’m a little unsure in which slot SWAT goes. Either way, CSR is also not affected by lag, so it can’t take into account and neither should it.
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> Just to clear the air, Swat CSR is based on individual performance. In other words, if you score the highest on your team, your CSR will increase.

All right, thank you.

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Well, Team Performance playlists take longer to rank up in than individual performance matches. You dropping seven ranks was because someone with a lot lower CSR than you managed to get better score than you, twice. Which isn’t hard to believe as I doubt the SWAT playlist is populated by enough high ranking players to not make you drop a couple of ranks when you do lose.

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Problem is that you haven’t been playing against, and winning against, players with a higher CSR than you, that’s why it took all night. Then, in those two matches you had some bad luck and got lag against lower CSR players, which is a bigger risk.

If Individual performance was slower to rank up in, you wouldn’t have been a CSR 40 to start with, and you wouldn’t have dropped 7 ranks. So, you’d either sacrifice speed for safety and take longer to rank up, or the current system, fast ranking and fast decline.

And no, it is fast, even if it takes you all night to get to 40, it’s not the system’s fault, it’s the MM settings not matching you with players in your own skill range, and that is a problem with the population, not directly the game.

Either way, I recommend you take a look at the indie side of the gaming industry, they offer a wider variation of games than this AAA mess we’re in, where most games play, behave and look the same. If you’re looking for another game.

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Well I assume you did poorly in those two laggy matches.

Just because you spent all night getting that 40 doesn’t mean you’re going to be right in coming here talking the way you did.

There’s two options ahead, either keep playing and get that 40 back or don’t. There was an additional third option of coming to the Forums and asking calmly about what happened but you’ve already blown that. :confused:

> First off, calm down, ok. Second, if you don’t like the CSR system, don’t play the game. Or, educate yourself on how CSR works.

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Yes… Just like 90% of population… Go to GOW. BF, COD… If you hate it… 343 don’t care now to fix, population is lower then 15K… So, they may fix it in Halo 5… They have 10000000000000 problems, and i think that your problem is near end of list… We that have DLC’s are saying that 343 stole are mony, and we can’t play what we pay for… Lag, 90% of games are in some lag… There is tone of problems… and bad CSR is not even near bad as other problems that Halo 4 have… Halo 4, it woos not finished game in time of release date… Halo 4 is more Halo 5 beta, or we hope to be… And, most of community is in shape that Halo 4 is only copy of Call Of Duty then actual halo game…

Reviewing your recently played games, can’t find the instance where you hit 40 - have not checked every game though - I can see a CSR36 in there but it certainly does not look like you went 40 > 33 in 2 games. In your past 30 or so games you’ve been moving up and down through the 30s.

In your past 20 games you’ve had:

1st x2
2nd x2
3rd x1
4th x2
5th x5
6th x1
DNF x7

not surprising you’ve dropped ranks. If you dropped 7 ranks in 2 games, I’m surprised your last 20 didn’t put you back at CSR1

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“Also, lag has nothing to do with the CSR, your performance, or team’s performance, I’m a little unsure in which slot SWAT goes. Either way, CSR is also not affected by lag, so it can’t take into account and neither should it.”

First of all, I could not care less about ranks, K/D or stats for all that is worth.
I m 46 and I play with my wife just for fun, so, take that in consideration.

Second, I disagree on almost everything you said. Lag, you say, has nothing to do with performance? Really?

Have you tried to kill a guy that passes by you 3 times in a 2 second time frame?

Can you stick a grenade in a guy that…is not there, only appears that way?

Have you ever try to headshot someone across map and find out, the next second, that, he is, in fact, assassinating you?

Like I said, I dont care about stats (just look at my records) but that is really annoying, a reason to go back to other Halos where there IS lag, but not that serious and last, but not the least, the main reason I find the population is dropping like snow in the Winter.

But thats me…

Angry Angels, Honour & Loyalty.

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> “Also, lag has nothing to do with the CSR, your performance, or team’s performance, I’m a little unsure in which slot SWAT goes. Either way, CSR is also not affected by lag, so <mark>it can’t take [lag] into account and neither should it.</mark>”
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> First of all, I could not care less about ranks, K/D or stats for all that is worth.
> I m 46 and I play with my wife just for fun, so, take that in consideration.
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> Second, I disagree on almost everything you said. Lag, you say, has nothing to do with performance? Really?
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> Have you tried to kill a guy that passes by you 3 times in a 2 second time frame?
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> Can you stick a grenade in a guy that…is not there, only appears that way?
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> Have you ever try to headshot someone across map and find out, the next second, that, he is, in fact, assassinating you?
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> Like I said, I dont care about stats (just look at my records) but that is really annoying, a reason to go back to other Halos where there IS lag, but not that serious and last, but not the least, the main reason I find the population is dropping like snow in the Winter.
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> But thats me…
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> Angry Angels, Honour & Loyalty.

True the first half of his post is nonsense, but I think the very end of his post is probably the point he was actually trying to make - although maybe I’m being kind in my interpretation.

OP saying CSR is nonsense because he went down after 2 laggy games is equivalent to if he had 2 games interrupted by power cuts and coming on here shouting “I was 40 then I had 2 power cuts and now I’m 33 - CSR IS BROKEN!!”.

OP shouldn’t be complaining about CSR, he should be complaining about lag.

Indeed. Halo without lag is like a dream we know utopic per si. It afects us in various ways because we have different reasons to play. Hardcore players complain about the negative impact on CSR, casuals get upset and rage quit and old-timer players miss Halo 3…thats life… ; )

Angry Angels, Honour & Loyalty.

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> > First of all, I could not care less about ranks, K/D or stats for all that is worth.
> > I m 46 and I play with my wife just for fun, so, take that in consideration.
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> > Second, I disagree on almost everything you said. Lag, you say, has nothing to do with performance? Really?
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> > Have you tried to kill a guy that passes by you 3 times in a 2 second time frame?
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> > Can you stick a grenade in a guy that…is not there, only appears that way?
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> > Have you ever try to headshot someone across map and find out, the next second, that, he is, in fact, assassinating you?
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> > Like I said, I dont care about stats (just look at my records) but that is really annoying, a reason to go back to other Halos where there IS lag, but not that serious and last, but not the least, the main reason I find the population is dropping like snow in the Winter.
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> > But thats me…
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> > Angry Angels, Honour & Loyalty.
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> True the first half of his post is nonsense, but I think the very end of his post is probably the point he was actually trying to make - although maybe I’m being kind in my interpretation.
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> OP saying CSR is nonsense because he went down after 2 laggy games is equivalent to if he had 2 games interrupted by power cuts and coming on here shouting “I was 40 then I had 2 power cuts and now I’m 33 - CSR IS BROKEN!!”.
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> OP shouldn’t be complaining about CSR, he should be complaining about lag.

Either way CSR is broken, lagg or not.

> Either way CSR is broken, lagg or not.

I just don’t like the overuse of the word broken… It works exactly as the developers intended. It was an afterthought, never sold to us as an ideal solution, and I personally am satisfied, however mediocre it may be - perhaps because I just don’t care enough to be dissatisfied.

Anyway I’m not here to argue either way, just to point out that as with 95% of users who complain that CSR is greatly misbehaving, OP is - as expected - exaggerating.

I’m surprised there are people who have taken CSR seriously in the first place… It’s not a grade of your skill, but rather a grade of how aggressive you play whether it is reckless or skillful. Just because you even get to 50 in a team slayer or swat, it doesn’t even mean you’re good at the game, it could just mean that you play very reckless.

My advice to the OP, give it up, and play for a different reason like commendations or something. In my view the CSR system is so messed up as it is that I can’t even take it seriously.

> In your past 20 games you’ve had:
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> 1st x2
> 2nd x2
> 3rd x1
> 4th x2
> 5th x5
> 6th x1
> DNF x7
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> not surprising you’ve dropped ranks. If you dropped 7 ranks in 2 games, I’m surprised your last 20 didn’t put you back at CSR1

That probably isn’t accurate. I finish games all the time and log into waypoint to check out the stats in greater detail only to find a DNF :S

OP, I understand your frustrations. My internet connection is far from optimal so my CSR occasionally goes down as a result. My advice to you is to just stick with it. If you actually are as good as you think, you should have no problem regaining your 40.

I just went through your last two days of games (54 games), and the highest CSR I saw was 37. Can you post a link to the game where you were a CSR 40?

You tend to hover around CSR 35, so I’d say that’s where you belong. Don’t try to raise your skill rank higher than your actual skill level; you will just get frustrated, both because you are probably incapable of getting there, and because you will start playing against players who are much better than you.

Also, CSR isn’t broken–it works exactly as it’s supposed to.

And while it may reward “aggressive” behavior, that reward will only be within 1 or 2 ranks. A CSR 30 is generally going to be better than a CSR 25, and a CSR 45 is generally going to be better than a CSR 40.