CSR for Multi-team

Does CSR for Mult-team use Individual points for Slayer and Win/Loss placement for OBJ? If not, it should.

Individual

Indeed as stated above it is individual here’s a list of the individual and team playlists:

> Team
> Capture the Flag
> Dominion
> Team Throwdown
> Team Doubles
> Grifball
> Castle Team DLC
> Team Objective
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> Individual
> Flood
> Team Snipers
> Regicide
> SWAT
> Infinity Slayer
> Big Team Infinity Slayer
> Rumble Pit
> Multi-Team
> Team Action Sack

When we originally announced the CSR breakdown, we mistakenly messaged that Multi-Team uses individual ranking. Multi-Team actually uses team scoring, which promotes teamwork amongst each pair of players. This way, if you and a teammate are playing Oddball, there is no motivation to compete with your teammate - W/L is the primary factor that determines who will rank up and rank down. Thanks for your inquiry!

> When we originally announced the CSR breakdown, we mistakenly messaged that Multi-Team uses individual ranking. Multi-Team actually uses team scoring, which promotes teamwork amongst each pair of players. This way, if you and a teammate are playing Oddball, there is no motivation to compete with your teammate - W/L is the primary factor that determines who will rank up and rank down. Thanks for your inquiry!

How can this be true? I level up several levels at a time without actually winning sometimes but having the most points, and none of the team-based playlists work like this.

> When we originally announced the CSR breakdown, we mistakenly messaged that Multi-Team uses individual ranking. Multi-Team actually uses team scoring, which promotes teamwork amongst each pair of players. This way, if you and a teammate are playing Oddball, there is no motivation to compete with your teammate - W/L is the primary factor that determines who will rank up and rank down. Thanks for your inquiry!

The list I posted above is there any other playlist that is wrong? :slight_smile:

> When we originally announced the CSR breakdown, we mistakenly messaged that Multi-Team uses individual ranking. Multi-Team actually uses team scoring, which promotes teamwork amongst each pair of players. This way, if you and a teammate are playing Oddball, there is no motivation to compete with your teammate - W/L is the primary factor that determines who will rank up and rank down. Thanks for your inquiry!

This can’t be true, I played roughly 11 games on launch day of CSR in Multi-Team and I got to a Level 23, some of those games I didn’t even win but still ranked up afterwards.

> > When we originally announced the CSR breakdown, we mistakenly messaged that Multi-Team uses individual ranking. Multi-Team actually uses team scoring, which promotes teamwork amongst each pair of players. This way, if you and a teammate are playing Oddball, there is no motivation to compete with your teammate - W/L is the primary factor that determines who will rank up and rank down. Thanks for your inquiry!
>
> This can’t be true, I played roughly 11 games on launch day of CSR in Multi-Team and I got to a Level 23, some of those games I didn’t even win but still ranked up afterwards.

Is multi-team still 6 teams of 2?

You don’t have to ‘win’ the game to beat other teams. Placing 2nd, 3rd or even 5th still means you beat somebody.

A team placing 2nd would be similar to an individual placing 2nd in a 6 Player FFA.

> When we originally announced the CSR breakdown, we mistakenly messaged that Multi-Team uses individual ranking. Multi-Team actually uses team scoring, which promotes teamwork amongst each pair of players. This way, if you and a teammate are playing Oddball, there is no motivation to compete with your teammate - W/L is the primary factor that determines who will rank up and rank down. Thanks for your inquiry!

Hmm…are you sure?

> > > When we originally announced the CSR breakdown, we mistakenly messaged that Multi-Team uses individual ranking. Multi-Team actually uses team scoring, which promotes teamwork amongst each pair of players. This way, if you and a teammate are playing Oddball, there is no motivation to compete with your teammate - W/L is the primary factor that determines who will rank up and rank down. Thanks for your inquiry!
> >
> > This can’t be true, I played roughly 11 games on launch day of CSR in Multi-Team and I got to a Level 23, some of those games I didn’t even win but still ranked up afterwards.
>
> Is multi-team still 6 teams of 2?
>
> You don’t have to ‘win’ the game to beat other teams. Placing 2nd, 3rd or even 5th still means you beat somebody.
>
> A team placing 2nd would be similar to an individual placing 2nd in a 6 Player FFA.

I was under the impression that if you don’t come first in a Multi-Team game, you have a Loss in terms of Win/Loss for CSR, but then again, I don’t think it was ever discussed specifically for Multi-Team.

Multi-Team is still 6 teams of 2, yes.

> > > When we originally announced the CSR breakdown, we mistakenly messaged that Multi-Team uses individual ranking. Multi-Team actually uses team scoring, which promotes teamwork amongst each pair of players. This way, if you and a teammate are playing Oddball, there is no motivation to compete with your teammate - W/L is the primary factor that determines who will rank up and rank down. Thanks for your inquiry!
> >
> > This can’t be true, I played roughly 11 games on launch day of CSR in Multi-Team and I got to a Level 23, some of those games I didn’t even win but still ranked up afterwards.
>
> Is multi-team still 6 teams of 2?
>
> You don’t have to ‘win’ the game to beat other teams. Placing 2nd, 3rd or even 5th still means you beat somebody.
>
> A team placing 2nd would be similar to an individual placing 2nd in a 6 Player FFA.

But none of the other team-based playlists allow you to rank up more than 1 level at a time.

> I was under the impression that if you don’t come first in a Multi-Team game, you have a Loss in terms of Win/Loss for CSR, but then again, I don’t think it was ever discussed specifically for Multi-Team.
>
> Multi-Team is still 6 teams of 2, yes.

Looking at your game history I’m not surprised you are a CSR-23.

Oldest to Newest (Multi-Team):

But you make a good point - some clarification on if a team placing 2nd is equivalent to a team placing 6th with regards to CSR. I suspect it isn’t though.

> But none of the other team-based playlists allow you to rank up more than 1 level at a time.

This is incorrect.

> > I was under the impression that if you don’t come first in a Multi-Team game, you have a Loss in terms of Win/Loss for CSR, but then again, I don’t think it was ever discussed specifically for Multi-Team.
> >
> > Multi-Team is still 6 teams of 2, yes.
>
> Looking at your game history I’m not surprised you are a CSR-23.
>
> Oldest to Newest:
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> - [a34a09933c35345b](https://app.halowaypoint.com/en-us/Halo4/The Little Moa/wargames/match-a34a09933c35345b) (Team Standing: 1/6) – (CSR: 1)
> - [734529e8680d1366](https://app.halowaypoint.com/en-us/Halo4/The Little Moa/wargames/match-734529e8680d1366) (Team Standing: 1/6) – (CSR: 4)
> - [49ad3f01a184094d](https://app.halowaypoint.com/en-us/Halo4/The Little Moa/wargames/match-49ad3f01a184094d) (Team Standing: 1/6) – (CSR: 8)
> - [b6d7b9889cdd6327](https://app.halowaypoint.com/en-us/Halo4/The Little Moa/wargames/match-b6d7b9889cdd6327) (Team Standing: 1/6) – (CSR: 11)
> - [c84ee15e68ea31b3](https://app.halowaypoint.com/en-us/Halo4/The Little Moa/wargames/match-c84ee15e68ea31b3) (Team Standing: 1/6) – (CSR: 14)
> - [7851875ff925e645](https://app.halowaypoint.com/en-us/Halo4/The Little Moa/wargames/match-7851875ff925e645) (Team Standing: 1/6) – (CSR: 16)
> - [30c632d89adc9ffc](https://app.halowaypoint.com/en-us/Halo4/The Little Moa/wargames/match-30c632d89adc9ffc) (Team Standing: 1/6) – (CSR: 18)
> - [2b896673a9db8375](https://app.halowaypoint.com/en-us/Halo4/The Little Moa/wargames/match-2b896673a9db8375) (Team Standing: 1/6) – (CSR: 20)
> - [1f4a60e3be652c40](https://app.halowaypoint.com/en-us/Halo4/The Little Moa/wargames/match-1f4a60e3be652c40) (Team Standing: 1/6) – (CSR: 22)
> - [c15bd464ac48384e](https://app.halowaypoint.com/en-us/Halo4/The Little Moa/wargames/match-c15bd464ac48384e) (Team Standing: 3/6) – (CSR: 23)
> - [3a6fdb9818d67488](https://app.halowaypoint.com/en-us/Halo4/The Little Moa/wargames/match-3a6fdb9818d67488) (Team Standing: 4/6) – (CSR: 23)
> - [3bfafcd49424a20e](https://app.halowaypoint.com/en-us/Halo4/The Little Moa/wargames/match-3bfafcd49424a20e) (Team Standing: 3/6) – (CSR: 23)
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> > But none of the other team-based playlists allow you to rank up more than 1 level at a time.
>
> This is incorrect.

Damn my memory sucks :confused:

Still, the fact I managed to progress that far on a playlist which is W/L is insane. It takes a heck of a lot longer to level up in Throwdown and Castle DLC which is also W/L :confused:

> Damn my memory sucks :confused:
>
> Still, the fact I managed to progress that far on a playlist which is W/L is insane. It takes a heck of a lot longer to level up in Throwdown and Castle DLC which is also W/L :confused:

This is what makes me think Multi-Team compares all the teams and their placing, rather than declaring a single winner and five losers.

With playlists like Throwdown and Castle DLC, you are only ever compared to a single other team - this is why progress is slower.

Hopefully MM Systems Team can confirm either way.

> > When we originally announced the CSR breakdown, we mistakenly messaged that Multi-Team uses individual ranking. Multi-Team actually uses team scoring, which promotes teamwork amongst each pair of players. This way, if you and a teammate are playing Oddball, there is no motivation to compete with your teammate - W/L is the primary factor that determines who will rank up and rank down. Thanks for your inquiry!
>
> How can this be true? I level up several levels at a time without actually winning sometimes but having the most points, and none of the team-based playlists work like this.

I’m going to test this tomorrow, because I don’t believe it’s true either.

But if it is, I’m going to become super happy and super motivated to win.

EDIT: It’s true. The QuickCSR site updated to show that it is Team. And my testing proved it was Team. I wouldn’t have the highest points, but because my team got the highest, my CSR ranked up. Though the winning appears to be at least Top 2 teams (My team never got lower than that), which is a good move.