Crossplay gone seriously

Never understood the whole PC gamers are better because keyboard and mouse. Lots of people using PC suck and lots are good. Same as console, lots are good and lots suck.

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I see we’re at the point where everyone is using ā€œcrossplayā€ as an excuse for losing all the time.

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It’s crazy to see the console players complaining about the PC players for mouse and keyboard being ā€œtoo goodā€ while the PC players are complaining about the controller users.

The issue is the fact that many mice have a button that lets you adjust your mouse sensitivity on the fly. So as a result, you can adjust your camera controls at an instant.

Another issue is that unlike joysticks, a mouse isn’t restricted to how fast the game lets you set your X and Y sensitivity. As a result, in a game where being back-slapped is an insta-kill, you have some Spartans who turn quickly but are still vulnerable and others who turn at the speed of MACH 7 to whip around. If they have close-quarters dominating weapon, good luck; you just lost what should’ve been an easy kill and gave the enemy a point instead.

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I really don’t get this complaint, how do you know you’re playing against people on either console or PC? You can play mnk or controller on either one. If you’re playing on Xbox with a controller, unless you’re in the high onyx ranks getting out against cheaters, PC is not the problem. Most PC players use mnk, and mnk is at a rather large disadvantage, especially in mid-level play. However, if you want to only play against controller or mnk, you can do so in solo/duo.

If you’re you want to see what an average PC mnk player looks like, take a gander at my stats. I’ve made some improvement moving from Silver 1 to Platinum 1, but I still get wrecked by controller players.

What I bet you’re mostly dealing with is the hit registration/desync/whatever is causing it. Games for me are absolutely unplayable sometimes; punches don’t work, shots miss, get shot behind walls, etc. I had a game earlier where I swung at one guy either 4 or 5 times and he survived all of it and killed me. It’s exceptionally irritating.

You didn’t give a single reason as to why Crossplay is causing you to lose games, prevent you from getting challenges done, or ruining your experience in general.

Sorry but I don’t buy it.

I put together a beast of a PC for about $60 more than the price of a Series S after it was all said and done. With a little work, patience and some willingness to barter and drive a little anyone can. And I did so on a $14/hr budget, with a mortgage and bills. It’s dated but can run most games at 120fps at 1080p, stream and record simultaneously at 1080p 60fps with little to no issue.

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That gives me idea, what about a controller with say, a back button to alter sensitivity? Could help in a game like this, no? Maybe it’s a bad idea, I just thought about it.

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It would be an improvement, but they still limit us too much when it comes to joystick sensitivity. If you set your camera sensitivity to max on Rainbow Six, you are as close to mouse sensitivity as you can get. But with max setting on Halo 5 and Halo Infinite, you are GODLY slow when compared to R6 Siege’s camera controls.

And honestly? That is just bad game design. Because now when I swap games, I cannot get my aim right.

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the point you mean that concole players are complaining about pc players about the mouse and keyboard is more old news.
since that point has been going on since there told that MCC gets crossplay function then that discusion has been going all.

there are also concole players that give notting if there play against PC players with mouse and keyboard but there have other reasons there not wane play with PC players.

Imagine forcing crossplay and calling a game ā€œcompetitiveā€

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Free to play BS. I finally stopped playing like two weeks ago. I’m definitely not playing until I save enough for a badass PC. All my friends that have made the change from console to (a good) PC tell me how much better it feels to play on PC. Not just halo, but every single game - and they all play with controller

There is a reason why all the top players play on PC. And yeah can’t really call it competitive when you have platform performance discrepancies.

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After factoring in everything you’ve got there plus doing it on 14 an hour do you realize how much I can deduce how long it would have taken you not to mention you said bartering not buying at retail. You went the extra mile to get it so in full return I know you’re lying about price. Because the gas adds up too. Now if you’re in a smaller u.s. town that’s all possible especially on 14 an hour at 40 hour week minimums. Not to mention your name is already known as one of the bigger pc advocates. I stated plenty of times why it’s making my game unbearable to play if you missed it go back and re read it I have to do that often as I tend to speed read. But if you really must know that constant 120 fps the higher frame rates are a big bonus when dealing with other players. My biggest problem though is pc to controller accuracy and the ability to spin your character at a certain speed. Remember how in halo 3 if you spin fast enough you could easily land a 1 hit back smack on a full shielded player. Yeah that’s happening a lot more now with pc being able to change their sensitivity on the fly I can spin that fast on xbox even with all my settings ramped up to max. Then take into account mouse precision, it makes using any precision weapon extremely easy for pc where as with xbox we cant just keep the cursor on someone’s head like that. Main point is I’m freaking onxy ranked which is the best you can be and yet every day it’s the same bs day in and day out always pc if I’m playing and matching solo hell even my team has been showing more and more pc players even in social. To the point where I havent seen an xbox player on halo not even my own clan since campaigns release

This is all to accurate if any performance is different it completely changes the game for the lower performance spec players. But truth is I also dont trust pc players not since warzone with all the hacks they used I wouldnt put it past a ā€œcontrollerā€ using pc player to just disconnect said controller after the match begins just to have that much more of an edge seeing as it doesnt restrict pc mouse speed in any possible way

Watch your games back on theatre, practice more and watch content by players better than you to learn how to play the game.

PC players aren’t the reason op is rubbish at Halo.

The numbers are very clear. Controller players have better accuracy than m&k players currently. It’s not even close.

Most on PC, including me, are playing controller just like you with the exact same input.

Cheaters are real but are very uncommon. I’ve had one in 600+ games for example.

Just git gud

Edited due to being offensive. Babies.

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So did you miss the onyx rating do each of you forget what that actually means yall say I’m bad or I’m trash ffs yall just seem ignorant with that excuse. I mean seriously though pc in any other game always has a higher accuracy rating you really expect me to believe those stats? I’ve never once had a pc player with accuracy lower than mine if you wanna say aim assist I say we dont have the ability to track someone’s head weather cheating or not I’d say maybe a third of all my kills are headshots where as I can find pc players with higher headshot counts easy. But yet i cant find a single xbox player hmmm strange it almost like the algorithm keeps putting me with better players like it always has since halo 3. So by that statement that would mean pc is much better than the average xbox player

Watching my theater games does nothing when all I have to do is check what platform everyone is on pc shows a monitor and tower where as an xbox system wont show anything more than the game they’re on and possibly what they’re doing in said game not to mention checking their stats has always been a strategy. It’s not to say that all pc players are cheating though with the performance advantages they have and the minimal input delays plus the speed at which they whip their characters around is extreme advantages. In a game that prompts competition it’s not level when one has more advantages

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I will take the released figures over your anecdotal evidence and experience.

I really think you should try this m&k setup for yourself. Pop into Crossplay at your rank and see what happens. It’s not pleasant.

My gf refuses to play controller and I genuinely laugh out loud watching her play ranked. The m&k queue is a joke compared to what we’re playing. Nobody even plays m&k. Her queue time is outrageous.

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That goes back to my biggest problem with m&k if her times are that outrageous then think wheres the majority of the m&k players at? They’re either in the mixed system or in the pure controller system. But theres a problem with the controller system on pc. You can disconnect your controller. on xbox you cant just connect a m&k mid game it takes prior setup and yes m&k is much easier to use even on console. You have access to more buttons than a standard controller they are much closer together and you dont lose more than one finger to movement your right thumb turns into your hand meaning if your mouse has extra buttons you can bind those and in turn leave your fingers on them to press as needed. Not to mention our generation grew up taking keyboarding classes to learn how to properly and efficiently use said keyboard. Then tack in how fast a lot of people especially gamers can type. Theres a lot of unseen stats that determine all of this

And let’s not forget to mention skill based matchmaking in social playlists the entire Bain to my problem when I play I’m onyx ranked which means I’m going to be put against constant sweats. again everyone and I mean everyone I match with is pc that really says a lot. It’s not a fact you can skip over halo has always had skill based matchmaking in both social and ranked difference between 3 and infinite is that halo 3 had 2 ranking tiers on for social and one for ranked. Your rank was a number 1 through 50 while your social was from private to 5 star general. This allowed for two different tiers of matchmaking the ranked depended on your skill if you werent good enough you werent ranking up period. I sat at a 35 brigadier for the longest time where as I had friends who were 5 star generals if I joined them their days were easy but they ranked up slower. Their is tons of problems with this game. But I blame the devs and CEOs the most I mean 343 hasn’t had a single good halo launch every single one has been extremely criticized. Yet halo before 2012 was nothing but highly praised folks found minor things to complain about but nothing to the levels that 5, mcc, and infinite have received

I’m sure there maybe is away to spoof the controller playlist with a mouse. It makes more sense to do it the other way around so that they can dominate easier opposition.

PC players are just like you but use a different input. They don’t like cheating and just want to enjoy the games too. Those queues are dead because they’re aren’t very many people using m&k.

If you had said that people like me on PC, also on controller, have an advantage I’d understand. Although I’m using the same input I’m certainly playing a much smoother version of the game than you with higher fps. That makes sense.

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And yet you pop in here with that knowledge that oh yeah pc has clear distinct advantages over console. and yet wanna try and say I’m getting dominated because I’m trash. Then honestly why am I ranked so high. Oh right because during the games launch there was plenty of console players. But that didnt stop the steady increase of how often I’d see a pc player it went from 1 or 2 to entire teams of pc players.hell onyx wasnt even my first rank gold 3 was my other two buddies who were a few games behind ranked gold 1 and gold 2 on their first we all pushed up through performance and then quit when we were no longer winning games to preserve our ranks. Every game I’ve played since is pure social and I’m not finding any console players. I want it gone because of those distinct advantages oh and cant forget that on pc theres a app which controls how fast a player can spin as if they were using a mouse. Just found the last one out through a bit of searching to see if there was a way to legally cheat or spoof a game aside from just disconnecting the controller. As a pure controller player for the last 20+ years as I’ve never played a game on pc that wasnt that old pinball game I can still very easily say using a keyboard and mouse is still much easier even if connected through the console. And I’ve only used the thing 5 times. those were the only games I’ve won recently after that I uninstalled the game because if it’s that easy on console I can only imagine what it looks like on pc.

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Mouse and keyboard is not your problem. Being able to look faster doesn’t matter in Halo, it just doesn’t. Landing your shots is what matters and that is way easier to do on controller. If you’re having issues landing your shots then that’s your issue.

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