Cross core dream is dead

It has been ten months since they made big promises in regards to fixing the awful restrictive core system in Infinite and in that time we have gotten only visors and then complete silence as if they want to sweep those previous promises under the rug and make us forget about it.

If it was a situation where they were maybe working on multiple cross core pieces at once or hit a massive roadblock with coatings that would be understandable but not communicating it at all to us is genuinely awful and just gives the impression that no work is being done.

I will never understand 343’s refusal to properly communicate with the community even to their on detriment. See you in 2025 where we get kneepads.

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All I want at this point is coatings and they can’t even deliver on that part. How embarrassing is that?

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How hard can it be ?

Theres the head/torso/arms/legs - dont they each have their own “color pallette” identifiers attached, so swapping different color armors around can’t possibly be that difficult.

I doubt it’ll happen at this point. Maybe it’ll be something we get way later on. But I dont think so. Upsetting.

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Funny enough, cross core would be much better received than a new core at this point because of how restrictive each core eventually becomes. A lot of new and cool color patterns never get to see the light of day because they’re on a limited core like Eaglestrike.

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It might not be hard but extremely time consuming.
If there were no plans on cross-core coats to begin with, it’s entirely possible that most Cores and their pieces are not compatible, style wise, with other Cores’ coats.
What that means isn’t that it wouldn’t work but that applying a coat as is onto a core would look utterly insane.
UV maps may not be made for the other Cores’ coats and so forth.

How do you explain crap like this then?

https://twitter.com/HaloHubGG/status/1634271598722142208?s=20

And Im not talking about helmet attachments like bunny ears or a santa hat. Im talking about applying basic colors onto the various armor cores. I refuse to believe that is ‘difficult to implement’ - they are just choosing not to because they would lose revenue from suckers who spend $ in the store.

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I can think of a couple ways it might be harder than people think. Mainly if they make the coatings be a full texture wrap on each core then that coating is shaped to fit that core specifically. It could be that each coating is a group of textures that’s packed together to color and fit specific pieces. In order to do cross core with those setups then they would have to make the individual coatings that are designed for that core’s geometry for each core. That is definitely a lot of extra work.

However if they’re making it so that it just pulls a large texture patch to cover the section/piece then creating a coating for each is a little simpler. It just all depends on how they’ve made the system work under the hood and we don’t have that knowledge.

I’m still waiting for them to make good on that promise, but 343i has already broken so many with just this game. I don’t really have faith or hope at this point. I’m basically just sitting around waiting to keep being disappointed. Which in all honesty is still what’s happening. A few small things were good with this recent update, but it’s always too little and we’re far past too late.

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If they’ve done it like I suspect they’ve done it.
That would be two different coats enabled for those two cores, yet named identically in the customization menu.
They use the exact same colors and so forth, but the textures aren’t identical so that the UV maps for the meshes work with other armor coats as well.

I’ve already seen plenty of modders easily apply any coating to any armor core, and even weapons and Elites. 343 is lazy and likely doing it intentionally, if one guy can easily do it in a day

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Nah. No excuses anymore for this. We all know why they havent given us this customization.

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We don’t need cross core.

Was I disappointed and felt let down with no co-op and forge at launch? Absolutely.
Did I start getting slightly angry with all the delays? Indeed I did.

Do I realize that these delays are caused by actual technical difficulties? Of course I do.
Does that in any way or form absolve i343 of anything? Not in the slightest.

Don’t for a moment think an explanation of why something is the way it might be as an “excuse” to “forgive” them of anything.
I’m extremely crossed with this downright disaster of a so-called “paint system” and was so from the very beginning.
If 343 designed the system so that each individual core requires its own unique Armor Coats despite looking like duplicates, then that’s on them for being extremely ignorant with the player base and astonishingly shortsighted when designing the system. That’s entirely on them.
Can they on the other hand just flick a switch and enable all coats to all cores but choose not to do it to double-, triple- or more-dip by selling the same coat for multiple cores? That’s also on them for being extremely greedy.

Recognize that understanding an issue is far better when you want to complain than just randomly complain over things you have no idea how it works.

The thing with 343 is you have to expect the absolute worst and then you’ll be spot on. I called this way back when they first announced cross core and even though people thought I was hating for the sake of it and just being Mr Negative… I was right.

Cross core does not make money. Restricting things to specifics cores allows 343 to pad out bundles with seemingly more items of the same thing and means they can drip feed content as they go.

Pass Tense from the Game Pass perks being a prime example.

Never expect 343 to do anything sensible. They literally never have.

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The only reason why people want cross core is because of cosmetic drought. Though its shows that each core has different body designs and sizes, meaning some gear wouldn’t even work with others. There are likely only a few pictures you saw on the internet of some shoulders and helmets work, but besides that, spartans would look atrocious with everything else. The problem is still there if you can only do half work.

The only things that can work are coatings and visor colors for cross core. There is no way for coatings to be separate from cores and guns. But armor pieces, would never work materially, canonically, and visually.

I get the feeling that Infinite will be replaced by the end of next year anyway.

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The only thing that could replace it is the “Tatonka” mode/game that’s supposed to be out either the end of this year or next year. If it’s mainly a battle royale then I don’t see that fully taking it’s place if it doesn’t have all the features and games that we normally have in a Halo game.

Also note that MS can pull the plug on Tablabla at anytime they see fit.

That, and Tatanka is a separate game made in Unreal Engine, which means it will not have all the stuff we bought/earned in Infinite. I’m sure 343 is planning to sell us exactly the same stuff in that game too.

Halo 2030: Next thing you know, they’ll just sell every single game mode as a separate game, and you have to rebuy all of the armor and coatings in every one of those games