Critics and Haters Need to Understand One Thing...

It’s been a week since Halo 5: Guardians was released to the public. Negative reviews and hater comments, however, were already swarming the web before Day 1 was over. Sure, most of said “negative comments” praised the multiplayer aspect of the game, BUT they also criticized the campaign–big time–claiming that it was was ‘mediocre’, ‘absurd’, ‘disappointing’, ‘the worst in the history of Halo’, and whatnot. Their main argument to defend their stance is that the story is incomprehensible unless you have a deeper knowledge of the lore outside the games–which makes H5G ‘unfriendly to newcomers’. (I won’t even mention haters’ and trolls’ comments because they will always have something to complain about.)

One week later, people keep giving H5G hell, and you know what? I’m done with it. I usually don’t get involved in this sort of discussions because it’s time-consuming, but I feel like it’s time I speak up to defend the game I love so much. So, this is a message to critics and haters, because they need to understand one thing: Halo 5 was meant to be a sequel to a bigger story, not a stand-alone game that would ensnare newcomers. (The Master Chief Collection was meant to do that; that’s why it launched first!)

A sequel implies the existence of previous installments in a franchise. It requires at least a basic knowledge of them in order to be enjoyable. If people don’t understand the campaign, why don’t they buy TMCC and get up-to-date with the story? Sure, it means to spend and additional $50, but that’s a steal considering that it includes FOUR GAMES in one single disc! Sales strategies aside, there’s no way a newcomer can understand Halo 5 without playing the first four games.

There are some who will argue that the games aren’t enough, that it is also necessary to read/watch every single book/comic/series that has been created to expand the universe. And it’s true. All of that stuff is what makes the Halo universe so rich and wonderful! Most fans of Star Wars never complained when the universe kept expanding beyond the film saga. (In fact, one of the main concerns they have about The Force Awakens is that it will negate every single piece of fiction that helped build up the story for the past 30+ years.) Why is that any different from the Halo universe?

Others will also complain about the marketing campaign selling something different to the public than they actually got, or–especially with HTT–that none of it actually tied to the campaign proper. Well, I found a comment that basically sums up why at least HTT is linked to the campaign (credits to ‘Matthew Hajducky’):

> The Mantle, which is brought up in the game, is a responsibility that has been passed down to different species for millenia. First, the Precursors (brought up in the novel Cryptum) and then the Forerunner. It was then going to be passed down to whichever species was more evolutionary complete (humans). In Halo 4, Chief’s evolutionary process is pushed farther, making him essentially no longer -Yoink!- sapien. This would set Chief’s lineage as the beginning of a new species.
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> The Mantle was left to humanity by the Precursors (basically the species that created everything else, including the Forerunner), but the Forerunner revolted against their creators, as they believed themselves to be evolutionary superior (Didact in Halo 4 fully believed in this premise, as he viewed humans as weaker than him). The Forerunners wiped out the Precursors, only to have them return in a last ditch effort as the mutated Flood. I shouldn’t have to explain that if you’ve played the games.
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> Now, with the Forerunners gone, humanity should have evolved at a faster rate and attained The Mantle, but they didn’t as they were busy slaughtering each other for no good reason. That was until humanity met the Covenant. The threat of a common enemy of humanity pulled people out of galactic civil war and combined forces. Since the Covenant were defeated (and no one outside of the military knew of the Flood), humanity went back to killing each other and not trusting the Covenant races.
> The first season of HTT focuses on the atrocities by ONI as they calculate human casualties rather than try to save everyone, and the second season focuses on the rebellions lack of civilian casualities as they have a “win at all costs” mentality.
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> You should have probably read at least Halo: The Fall of Reach as it gives you a huge backstory to Halo 5 (Blue Team’s upbringing). I’ve read every Halo book/comic and love the lore. True fan of it. As for Hunt The Truth, it was an amazing series that showcased the atrocities ONI did in the Spartan-II program, as well as the lack of human empathy throughout the known galaxy. The entire franchise is based upon human evolution and our place in the galaxy. The series was deidcated to how we are SO bent on killing each other that we forget (or don’t care) that there are much worse things out there. That speaks on a real-world level. The whole series focuses on how humanity gets in its own way of evolution. It relates to the game because:
> Cortana has now merged with the Forerunner Domain, a Forerunner collection of knowledge and records, saving her from rampancy, but turning her ideas of the Mantle against bilogical creatures. Like the Forerunner, she turned against her creators, believing her and other artificial beings to be superior to her predacessors.This is the basis for the newer games as the saga is called “The Reclaimor Saga” as humanity works to “reclaim” the Mantle.

I rest my case.

I love it just need to fix the damn radar its unless lol :slight_smile:

Finally someone who knows there -Yoink-, I completely agree while the plot was a bit of a let down I will say, it’s defiantly not as bad as some make it out to be and certainly does make sense if you know the Lore behind it, but of course instead of doing any research they jump on forums and complain cause that’s easier as less work.

Halo 5s campaign was enriched with lore which is a good thing but the narrative was not as good as it could be for one I didn’t feel a clash of ideals from Spartan Locke or master chief instead they hit each other a few times then next they meet they are best buddies, I mean I’m glad Locke and the other SIVs showed professionalism and respect but still would’ve been nice to see a real clash of perspectives.
Regarding Cortanas switch to an antagonist I think it could be very interesting even though it’s not explained clearly why and what actually happened after halo 4. This leads me to conclude that halo5s plot is either a part 1 so to speak or a stage setter for halo 6.

Thats just my opinion but yeah some criticisms are totally exaggerated I feel sometimes.

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> Finally someone who knows there -Yoink-, I completely agree while the plot was a bit of a let down I will say, it’s defiantly not as bad as some make it out to be and certainly does make sense if you know the Lore behind it, but of course instead of doing any research they jump on forums and complain cause that’s easier as less work.
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> Halo 5s campaign was enriched with lore which is a good thing but the narrative was not as good as it could be for one I didn’t feel a clash of ideals from Spartan Locke or master chief instead they hit each other a few times then next they meet they are best buddies, I mean I’m glad Locke and the other SIVs showed professionalism and respect but still would’ve been nice to see a real clash of perspectives.
> Regarding Cortanas switch to an antagonist I think it could be very interesting even though it’s not explained clearly why and what actually happened after halo 4. This leads me to conclude that halo5s plot is either a part 1 so to speak or a stage setter for halo 6.
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> Thats just my opinion but yeah some criticisms are totally exaggerated I feel sometimes.

Thanks! It’s good to know that I’m not the only one who feels like the campaign was more than what most people say about it. I agree, Locke and Chief’s relationship switched from being enemies (sort of) to partners in a blink of an eye, though Cortana’s plan kind of contributed to that.

As for why Cortana switched to being an antagonist? I just posted a theory here on the forums. Might want to go take a look. :wink:

I think people were let down by the friction or lack of friction between Chief and Locke. It was really made out to be a hunt or hunted type of story and really steered away from that. Granted I love the campaign it didn’t seem to mesh up what it was made out to be. I would love to have seen Chief really show all spartans why he is in fact Master Chief. I enjoy Cortanas reversal of her previous points of view, interesting dynamic there.

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> I think people were let down by the friction or lack of friction between Chief and Locke. It was really made out to be a hunt or hunted type of story and really steered away from that. Granted I love the campaign it didn’t seem to mesh up what it was made out to be. I would love to have seen Chief really show all spartans why he is in fact Master Chief. I enjoy Cortanas reversal of her previous points of view, interesting dynamic there.

Most likely. The ads did provide something different that what most fans expected. Then again, maybe they were meant to be sort of like Locke’s expectations concerning his mission as well, just before he and Osiris learned who was really behind the Guardians’ activation? I remember the description for the mission ‘Swords of Sanghelios’ saying something about the mission changing ‘from retrieval to rescue’.

Ive played every halo game and I had no clue what was going on in h5.

The story is convoluted and quite frankly, weird.

When I dont like a game I just dont play it, let alone spend time in forums complaining for no reason.

I love halo 5. If you don’t, dont play.

Are you even good at the game?

People have to realize that Halo 5 is the middle story. The middle story is almost always pretty good but never phonomenal. Halo 2 was pretty good but the story is probably the most forgettable of the original trio. Halo 5 is good and i am yet to complete the campaign (i want to play it in 4 player co-op and all of my buddies are getting it for christmas or sometime over the holiday season) Halo 5 shows promise and innovation with the multiplayer and has a good story idea for a campaign however from my outward perspective it seems like the hunt for the chief has concluded and that Locke and Chief are not enemies anymore but i could be wrong. H6 has to have an engaging and interesting campaign, if it doesn’t Halo will lose ground because of its development time of three years when things like COD have yearly releases. H5 has set a great base for upcoming halo games and fixed the set back that was Halo 4 and it is lightyears ahead of the MCC. I think Halo 5 a wonderful entry to the series and it allows 343 to show that they can be the competent developer that they need to be for halo to survive.

They are not totally wrong about the campaign. 343 relies to heavily on using the EU to explain things in thier own story. The EU is suppose to compliment games. Just like how the Star Wars EU is suppose to compliment the movies.

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> > Finally someone who knows there -Yoink-, I completely agree while the plot was a bit of a let down I will say, it’s defiantly not as bad as some make it out to be and certainly does make sense if you know the Lore behind it, but of course instead of doing any research they jump on forums and complain cause that’s easier as less work.
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> > Halo 5s campaign was enriched with lore which is a good thing but the narrative was not as good as it could be for one I didn’t feel a clash of ideals from Spartan Locke or master chief instead they hit each other a few times then next they meet they are best buddies, I mean I’m glad Locke and the other SIVs showed professionalism and respect but still would’ve been nice to see a real clash of perspectives.
> > Regarding Cortanas switch to an antagonist I think it could be very interesting even though it’s not explained clearly why and what actually happened after halo 4. This leads me to conclude that halo5s plot is either a part 1 so to speak or a stage setter for halo 6.
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> > Thats just my opinion but yeah some criticisms are totally exaggerated I feel sometimes.
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> Thanks! It’s good to know that I’m not the only one who feels like the campaign was more than what most people say about it. I agree, Locke and Chief’s relationship switched from being enemies (sort of) to partners in a blink of an eye, though Cortana’s plan kind of contributed to that.
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> As for why Cortana switched to being an antagonist? I just posted a theory here on the forums. Might want to go take a look. :wink:

The Campaign was not a Let down, It was amazing. I was Half Expecting what happened but wasn’t sure. I honestly cannot wait to Play the next one. Especially with the Cliffhanger ending.

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> People have to realize that Halo 5 is the middle story. The middle story is almost always pretty good but never phonomenal. Halo 2 was pretty good but the story is probably the most forgettable of the original trio. Halo 5 is good and i am yet to complete the campaign (i want to play it in 4 player co-op and all of my buddies are getting it for christmas or sometime over the holiday season) Halo 5 shows promise and innovation with the multiplayer and has a good story idea for a campaign however from my outward perspective it seems like the hunt for the chief has concluded and that Locke and Chief are not enemies anymore but i could be wrong. H6 has to have an engaging and interesting campaign, if it doesn’t Halo will lose ground because of its development time of three years when things like COD have yearly releases. H5 has set a great base for upcoming halo games and fixed the set back that was Halo 4 and it is lightyears ahead of the MCC. I think Halo 5 a wonderful entry to the series and it allows 343 to show that they can be the competent developer that they need to be for halo to survive.

I beg to differ when it comes to Halo 2’s campaign, but that’s probably just my personal opinion. In any case, you’re right about H5 being the middle story, and I do believe Halo 6 will blow our minds to kingdom come. As for the hunt, I think 343 never really meant the hunt for the Chief, even if the ads tell otherwise. It was always a hunt for the truth–on both sides. Locke trying to find the truth about the Chief’s motives, and Chief trying to find the truth about Cortana’s plan. That was the real hunt. That’s what made it the greatest hunt in the history of gaming. And who knows? For us fans of the story, the hunt may still be continuing. I posted a theory about Cortana being really dead in Halo 5. Maybe you’d like to take a look at it. (At least you could help me keep the thread alive… pretty please with a cherry on top?)

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> > > Finally someone who knows there -Yoink-, I completely agree while the plot was a bit of a let down I will say, it’s defiantly not as bad as some make it out to be and certainly does make sense if you know the Lore behind it, but of course instead of doing any research they jump on forums and complain cause that’s easier as less work.
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> > > Halo 5s campaign was enriched with lore which is a good thing but the narrative was not as good as it could be for one I didn’t feel a clash of ideals from Spartan Locke or master chief instead they hit each other a few times then next they meet they are best buddies, I mean I’m glad Locke and the other SIVs showed professionalism and respect but still would’ve been nice to see a real clash of perspectives.
> > > Regarding Cortanas switch to an antagonist I think it could be very interesting even though it’s not explained clearly why and what actually happened after halo 4. This leads me to conclude that halo5s plot is either a part 1 so to speak or a stage setter for halo 6.
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> > > Thats just my opinion but yeah some criticisms are totally exaggerated I feel sometimes.
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> > Thanks! It’s good to know that I’m not the only one who feels like the campaign was more than what most people say about it. I agree, Locke and Chief’s relationship switched from being enemies (sort of) to partners in a blink of an eye, though Cortana’s plan kind of contributed to that.
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> > As for why Cortana switched to being an antagonist? I just posted a theory here on the forums. Might want to go take a look. :wink:
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> The Campaign was not a Let down, It was amazing. I was Half Expecting what happened but wasn’t sure. I honestly cannot wait to Play the next one. Especially with the Cliffhanger ending.

Dat cliffhanger! Arby and the Chief fighting together once more! That’s something worth looking forward to.

The Chief I know after having his visor cracked would have opened a can off whoop -Yoink- but it shows Chief is better than that…but it would have been awesome for him to put his foot up Locke’s backside. love me some Chief.

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> The Chief I know after having his visor cracked would have opened a can off whoop -Yoink- but it shows Chief is better than that…but it would have been awesome for him to put his foot up Locke’s backside. love me some Chief.

Chief rocks, now and till the end of his days. Let’s just hope 343 don’t take it to heart and actually… you know… end his days.

Sounds solid to me!

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> When I dont like a game I just dont play it, let alone spend time in forums complaining for no reason.
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> I love halo 5. If you don’t, dont play.

We complain so that they next instalment doesn’t suck.
You enjoying equal starts, and no weapon drops? You’re welcome.
Now, if we try hard enough, we may get them to remove everything new in Halo 5 for Halo 6, and finally have a good game again.

I love this game. I agree all the people bashing it are idiots. I loved the story, could have had more but then it might not of had the same effect. I’m glad Halo is evolving. It has to just to stay fresh.

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> > When I dont like a game I just dont play it, let alone spend time in forums complaining for no reason.
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> We complain so that they next instalment doesn’t suck.
> You enjoying equal starts, and no weapon drops? You’re welcome.
> Now, if we try hard enough, we may get them to remove everything new in Halo 5 for Halo 6, and finally have a good game again.

You guys complain because you want the game to change and yet some of the people are enjoying it. :confused: