Crimson Map Pack/Update Fail

Games Other Halo
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343 are you trying to ruin Halo? If so awesome job

DMR is now super under powered compared to the BR. Did you read any of the suggested solutions? Lets see now, BR shoots faster and kicks opp. aim. DMR now takes 5 headshots (ridiculous in the first place) to kill, and the gun shoots at the same pace. So it was once near equal in kill time (about half second difference)to the BR and now it is about a full second slower for a skilled player. Great job! IDIOTS!
Yes, the DMR needed a SLIGHT nerf, not a major one. Make the plume last a lil longer or slow it down just a tiny bit. Not make it take more shots.

The Map Pack…talk about a suck-fest! Scatter and Wreckage are WAY!!! too big, overly complicated and in general poorly thought out. Kinda like the game entirely…poorly thought out and planned…they should’ve finished making the game before they released it. 343 stole your money with an unfinished copy-cat game (BF and CoD mixed together).

This map pack is what I was waiting for to see if 343 could show me something to look forward to…instead I am trying to figure out how I can afford a new computer so I can go back to PC gaming where the game makers are not ripping you off and actually care about GAMERS not piss-ant casuals. You have completely ruined me on console gaming.

The only thing that still peaks my interest is Forge which will fade quickly considering playing the game actually sucks it hard. I take no joy in playing this game whatsoever anymore. Can I please have my money back it will help for a new PC?

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> 343 are you trying to ruin Halo? If so awesome job
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> <mark>DMR is now super under powered compared to the BR. Did you read any of the suggested solutions? Lets see now, BR shoots faster and kicks opp. aim. DMR now takes 5 headshots (ridiculous in the first place) to kill, and the gun shoots at the same pace. So it was once near equal in kill time (about half second difference)to the BR and now it is about a full second slower for a skilled player. Great job! IDIOTS!</mark>

I absolutly lost it here. First you’re whining that the DMR is OP, now it’s UP.
Just goes to show you that there’s some people you just can’t please.

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Wait… We got a weapon buff/nerf update today?

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> 343 are you trying to ruin Halo? If so awesome job
>
> DMR is now super under powered compared to the BR. Did you read any of the suggested solutions? Lets see now, BR shoots faster and kicks opp. aim. DMR now takes 5 headshots (ridiculous in the first place) to kill, and the gun shoots at the same pace. So it was once near equal in kill time (about half second difference)to the BR and now it is about a full second slower for a skilled player. Great job! IDIOTS!
> Yes, the DMR needed a SLIGHT nerf, not a major one. Make the plume last a lil longer or slow it down just a tiny bit. Not make it take more shots.

DMR always took five headshots. All they needed to do was make the DMR a four shot. Also, the DMR killed in something like 5 seconds, the BR in six. The DMR in this case didn’t get any nerf, if you think thats a nerf. That sounds more like a buff for the BR to make it less worthless.

> The Map Pack…talk about a suck-fest! Scatter and Wreckage are WAY!!! too big, overly complicated and in general poorly thought out. Kinda like the game entirely…poorly thought out and planned…they should’ve finished making the game before they released it. 343 stole your money with an unfinished copy-cat game (BF and CoD mixed together).

I haven’t played them yet, but I’m not going to dake your word for it. It is most definitely not BF and CoD mixed toghether. Tell me, have you ever PLAYED Battlefield? As in Bad Company or BF2? Because I can honestly tell you it feels nothing like Halo, or Halo 4. The only reason Halo 4 feels like CoD? Ordinance, and instant spawns.

> This map pack is what I was waiting for to see if 343 could show me something to look forward to…instead I am trying to figure out how I can afford a new computer so I can go back to PC gaming where the game makers are not ripping you off and actually care about GAMERS not piss-ant casuals. You have completely ruined me on console gaming.

Hey, how about you stop being a judgemental -Yoink- bag who thinks games revolve around what he wants to play? I’m just as irritated as you are that there is no “Competitive” playlist or segregation in the game, but there is no reason to go around insulting players who don’t play like you, alright?

> The only thing that still peaks my interest is Forge which will fade quickly considering playing the game actually sucks it hard. I take no joy in playing this game whatsoever anymore. Can I please have my money back it will help for a new PC?

Suggestions:

Make a custom game that appeals to your type of playstyle. Next, advertise said custom game on here and youtube. Then, you can play the game you want to play, with people who want to play the same game as you. Rather than trying to ruin the game for anyone who likes it or anyone who doesn’t play the game the way you do, take advantage of what was given to you.

You can make the maps you think are good in forge, and play the game you want to play in Customs. If thats not enough for you, work positively for change on waypoint, rather than insulting the devs left and right.

Ok?

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> I absolutly lost it here. First you’re whining that the DMR is OP, now it’s UP.
> Just goes to show you that there’s some people you just can’t please.

I have never said the DMR was OP. I said it was slightly more powerful…big difference. Trying reading the post without predetermined basis. I know its difficult in this day and age for people.
The only two guns in the whole game that needed some tweaking was the Carbine (UP) and Boltshot (OP). People who complained about the DMR for the past month were not skilled enough to kill effectively with it.

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We could barely play it here the lag was so horrible on every game so we shut it off and played dead block and cod

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> Wait… We got a weapon buff/nerf update today?

None.

The DMR was always a 5sk and you do not need 5 headshots… Only the last shot needs to be a headshot.

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> Wait… We got a weapon buff/nerf update today?

Seconded, I heard nothing of any update aside from what this guy is talking about.

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> > I absolutly lost it here. First you’re whining that the DMR is OP, now it’s UP.
> > Just goes to show you that there’s some people you just can’t please.
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> I have never said the DMR was OP. I said it was slightly more powerful…big difference. Trying reading the post without predetermined basis. I know its difficult in this day and age for people.
> The only two guns in the whole game that needed some tweaking was the Carbine (UP) and Boltshot (OP). People who complained about the DMR for the past month were not skilled enough to kill effectively with it.

… “People are complaining about it therefore they suck.”

You are the type of person I hate the most, sir. You try to make it so that you are always right, and they are always wrong.

The DMR has:

More range

More Aim assist

More magnetism

A faster fire rate

Faster Kill time

as compared to the BR. The only gun that kills faster is the scoped in Light Rifle. The DMR as is dominates all weapons at all ranges. That is ridiculous and should not have happened. Go ahead, tell me I suck.

But watch the videos. It is significantly easier to kill with. Does that make it overpowered? No, but it does make it superior do the other weapons. All they have to do is take down the aim assist, and it would be much better.

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> and actually care about GAMERS not piss-ant casuals. You have completely ruined me on console gaming.

It’s unfortunate you didn’t start with this, because I could’ve stopped reading at that point. People like you are a virus. I have played every Halo game, and I play long hours at times. I stayed up at release and played well into the next day with no break. I’m by no means a casual gamer. Elitist people like you make me sick. A kid that picks up the controller for the first time is just as much a part of the Halo community as you are. In fact, they are a better part of the community because they aren’t arrogant -Yoink–wads like you are.

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> > I absolutly lost it here. First you’re whining that the DMR is OP, now it’s UP.
> > Just goes to show you that there’s some people you just can’t please.
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> I have never said the DMR was OP. I said it was slightly more powerful…big difference. Trying reading the post without predetermined basis. I know its difficult in this day and age for people.
> The only two guns in the whole game that needed some tweaking was the Carbine (UP) and Boltshot (OP). People who complained about the DMR for the past month were not skilled enough to kill effectively with it.

Here’s how it actually went- everyone is complaining DMR is too strong. Gets nerfed, whining. Also, people were complaining the DMR killing THEM. Also, both your posts on this make you sound like some snobby elitist.

> People who complained about the DMR for the past month were not skilled enough to kill effectively with it.

and

> where the game makers are not ripping you off and actually care about GAMERS not <mark>piss-ant casuals</mark>.

I absolutly hate it when people think they’re better than others just by their playstyle. So now Competetive players are better than Casuals by nature? No, Causuals and Competetives should be treated with equal respect.

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> DMR always took five headshots. All they needed to do was make the DMR a four shot. Also, the DMR killed in something like 5 seconds, the BR in six. The DMR in this case didn’t get any nerf, if you think thats a nerf. That sounds more like a buff for the BR to make it less worthless.

4 not 5. I said HEADSHOTS and 5 sseconds???hahaha how slow do you shoot?

> I haven’t played them yet, but I’m not going to dake your word for it. It is most definitely not BF and CoD mixed toghether. Tell me, have you ever PLAYED Battlefield? As in Bad Company or BF2? Because I can honestly tell you it feels nothing like Halo, or Halo 4. The only reason Halo 4 feels like CoD? Ordinance, and instant spawns.

Loadouts are near identical to BF3, just less restrictive. I didn’t ever get into Bad Company or BF2…played a few times tho. But it is most definitely very similar to BF3. Where does Halo come into comparison? Talking about Halo 4 here. CoD…achievements, challenges, perks, and Spartan Ops. Forgetting a few there ain’t you?

> Hey, how about you stop being a judgemental -Yoink!- bag who thinks games revolve around what he wants to play? I’m just as irritated as you are that there is no “Competitive” playlist or segregation in the game, but there is no reason to go around insulting players who don’t play like you, alright?

Revolve around what I want to play? I believe I said they need to make games for gamers not casuals. Read without basis jag.

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> to make games for gamers not casuals.

Casuals as to gamers as noobs are to pros. Everyone was a casual/noob in the beggining, but they evolved. If we stopped trying to bring in casuals, then the circle of gamers would grow smaller instead of larger.

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> I absolutly hate it when people think they’re better than others just by their playstyle. So now Competetive players are better than Casuals by nature? No, Causuals and Competetives should be treated with equal respect.

Gamer does not equal Competitive Gamer. A Competitive gamer is a type of Gamer yes. Gamers are the people who play the game to be good at it, not necessarily be competitive in MLG type stuff.
Casuals are the people who play the game for a couple months maybe then move to a new game. Or as soon as they complete insert challenge here they stop.
Don’t add words that I did not type please. Thanks.
Must games of the past few years are designed for casuals. This isn’t opinion, this is fact, from the developers mouths. The majority of their money is made from the initial game sale, the DLC content is hardly ever sold anywhere near the same volume as the intial game release…I think the article I read last summer said something like 30-40%.
Taking that into account, ABSOLUTELY, games should be made for the gamers. They are the ones who are generally still there to keep downloading the DLC…not the casuals.
Tell me what I am saying is wrong.

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They are absolutely the worst maps I have ever seen in Halo. 343 have no grip on the Halo map formula which made the Halo 2 maps so great. Almost every map is some lazily design mess of random objects. All they ever seem to do is have some flat ground and stick some rocks around and then shove some buildings in between all the random rocks.

343 should be setting the standard for map design. As it is (albeit not in this incredibly restrictive forge mode of Halo 4 but in Reach) I have seen a 5 year old make a more unique and fun yet still simple enough to play map which could easily be used in competitive play.

343 have taught me never to buy a map pass on day 1. The game play and map design is watered down to the point where it is completely boring. Roll on Crysis 3.

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> > to make games for gamers not casuals.
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> Casuals as to gamers as noobs are to pros. Everyone was a casual/noob in the beggining, but they evolved. If we stopped trying to bring in casuals, then the circle of gamers would grow smaller instead of larger.

A valid point, but I think most casuals will play the game anyway.

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> > DMR always took five headshots. All they needed to do was make the DMR a four shot. Also, the DMR killed in something like 5 seconds, the BR in six. The DMR in this case didn’t get any nerf, if you think thats a nerf. That sounds more like a buff for the BR to make it less worthless.
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> 4 not 5. I said HEADSHOTS and 5 sseconds???hahaha how slow do you shoot?

Nope. The DMR always has killed in 5 shots (with the last being a headshot.) The BR also always killed in 5.

> Loadouts are near identical to BF3, just less restrictive. I didn’t ever get into Bad Company or BF2…played a few times tho. But it is most definitely very similar to BF3. Where does Halo come into comparison? Talking about Halo 4 here. CoD…achievements, challenges, perks, and Spartan Ops. Forgetting a few there ain’t you?

BF3 is the black sheep of the battlefeild series. As for identicality: You can’t spawn with rockets, snipers, shotguns, MGs, repair tools etc. in Halo. There is also no class segregation in Halo, every class can use every weapon.

The only similarities are the perks. Halo’s perks don’t affect your swaud at all.

Halo 3-reach had achievements, and reach had challenges. Perks don’t change the game as much in Halo (aside from a few) near as much as they did in CoD, as someone can go in without perks in Halo and still do significantly well.

Spartan Ops has story, spec ops does not.

> Revolve around what I want to play? I believe I said they need to make games for gamers not casuals. Read without basis jag.

So someone who doesn’t play the game the same as you doesn’t deserve to have fun? You’re an -Yoink-.

Honestly, I don’t care if I get banned for saying that. What should have happened at the bottom line was social and competitive segregation, not just one, not just the other.

The “casuals” as you so elegantly put it, are the majority, whether you like it or not. So rather than sit here and make yourself look like a selfish doucebag who doesn’t realise we’re all human beings, try to work for equaility instead of putting them in the same position we are now.

How angry are you that there is no competitive side to this game? Well, how angry would they be if there was no “fun” or “social” side. Games like LoL suffer because they have no “social” side and things just become to hectic and stressful, so people stop playing.

Halo wouldn’t be all that great without ways to just relax online.

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> > I absolutly hate it when people think they’re better than others just by their playstyle. So now Competetive players are better than Casuals by nature? No, Causuals and Competetives should be treated with equal respect.
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> Gamer does not equal Competitive Gamer. A Competitive gamer is a type of Gamer yes. Gamers are the people who play the game to be good at it, not necessarily be competitive in MLG type stuff.
> Casuals are the people who play the game for a couple months maybe then move to a new game. Or as soon as they complete insert challenge here they stop.
> Don’t add words that I did not type please. Thanks.
> Must games of the past few years are designed for casuals. This isn’t opinion, this is fact, from the developers mouths. How about you get out of the forums and read gaming news and interviews. When you have educated yourself some more then you can come in here and tell me what I am saying is wrong.

You wrote all of it, I just highlighted it. The situation is the same with competetives and gamers. They share the same relationship with casuals. You’re just trying to get more general in what your saying. Either way, your not saying anything intelligible, let alone logical. Come back to me and tell me I’m wrong when you get some logic in your head.

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Lol @ the people who actually took time to reply to this kid. OP is successful troll, no one can be this stupid.

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> Lol @ the people who actually took time to reply to this kid. OP is successful troll, no one can be this stupid.

Dang…you’re right I’m wasting my time. I have better things to do than argue with this kid.