I decided to rewatch the Spartan ops episodes and noticed they talk about a covie asylum.
This is interesting as it meens there are infact human covie relations on earth
where I thought covies wernt aloud.
this most likely is old news but Id like to hear your thoughts
This is old and gives us hope that karen is just showing her own twisted bias side of the coin while “good” covenant forces may still be around.
We have no effen idea where half-jaw is and if he was around jul would not be so rash.
The covenant client species asylum is connotated as being lacking in Jiralhanae, San’shyuum, Mgalekgolo and Sangheili. There’s also concept art floating around with an Unggoy minor wearing cyan and the UNSC logo.
> This is old and gives us hope that karen is just showing her own twisted bias side of the coin while “good” covenant forces may still be around.
Hopefully, but I don’t see any piece of upcoming media (Spartan Ops, next Kilo-Five book and Silentium) that will tell us that there are positive relations between humans and some members of the Covenant client species.
> This is old and gives us hope that karen is just showing her own twisted bias side of the coin while “good” covenant forces may still be around.
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> We have no effen idea where half-jaw is and if he was around jul would not be so rash.
What? Half-Jaw would have glassed earth if it weren’t for Arby. He really doesn’t care about humans.
> > This is old and gives us hope that karen is just showing her own twisted bias side of the coin while “good” covenant forces may still be around.
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> > We have no effen idea where half-jaw is and if he was around jul would not be so rash.
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> What? Half-Jaw would have glassed earth if it weren’t for Arby. He really doesn’t care about humans.
Did i say anything about humans? I was talking about the arbiter’s position in the novels.
Link to that grunt please scotty?
Link to the grunt?
> I decided to rewatch the Spartan ops episodes and noticed they talk about a covie asylum.
> This is interesting as it meens there are infact human covie relations on earth
> where I thought covies wernt aloud.
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> this most likely is old news but Id like to hear your thoughts
it seems intresting.
Actually, I re-watched the episodes yesterday in preparation for Ep. 6 and wondered about the same thing.
I wonder if there’s a designated “Covie town” on Earth or would you just see an Elite next in line at the grocery store, buying milk?
Also, I have to wonder about the Sangheili terrorist that Hoya (I think that’s how it’s spelled) mentioned. Obviously, if the Covenant refugees had to all stay in a designated area, it’s interesting that an Elite would have found his way to Rio.
I think alot of the ill will held between the previous Covenant, and Humanity dissolved after the Great Schism, it seems alot of people were able to move on with their lives and realize not all aliens are vicious monsters.
There are still obviously some, like the terrorist mentioned who still could not move on or adjust to a new way of thinking, I imagine he suffered for that betrayal.
Its a nice dynamic to think that there are alien species living among us now, and that we have began to live lives free of the hatred in most respects, it seems it is just ONI who can not move on or have no intention of letting the Sanghelli species live on.
> The covenant client species asylum is connotated as being lacking in Jiralhanae, San’shyuum, Mgalekgolo and Sangheili. <mark>There’s also concept art floating around with an Unggoy minor wearing cyan and the UNSC logo.</mark>
That’s not concept art that was me screwing around in a thread, i think, similar to this one.Or I think some one saying why werent there any Covenants in the Infinity or something like that?
> I wonder if there’s a designated “Covie town” on Earth or would you just see an Elite next in line at the grocery store, buying milk?
The word “asylum” sorta implies that the alien species would be sectioned off from the rest of the world. If what Scotty said is true, then it seems the only species there would be the Unggoy and the Kig-Yar. That makes sense. I feel like if any species would get along with Humans (post-Karen Traviss, that is), then it’d be those two.
Also, did Hoya say that the asylum was on Earth? I could imagine the UNSC keeping the species on some backwater colony that survived the H-C War, but I don’t think they’d keep these former enemies so close to home.
> I decided to rewatch the Spartan ops episodes and noticed they talk about a covie asylum.
> This is interesting as it meens there are infact human covie relations on earth
> where I thought covies wernt aloud.
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> this most likely is old news but Id like to hear your thoughts
I wouldn’t look into that too optimistically just yet; they are referred to as being “all penned up”. Who remembers District 9? They are probably not living in amongst Human populations but are instead segregated and likely living in squalid conditions.
> > This is old and gives us hope that karen is just showing her own twisted bias side of the coin while “good” covenant forces may still be around.
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> > We have no effen idea where half-jaw is and if he was around jul would not be so rash.
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> What? Half-Jaw would have glassed earth if it weren’t for Arby. He really doesn’t care about humans.
Not at the start of the game, no, and not due to a disdain of Humans. The response to the Flood wasn’t even considered acceptable. Additionally, he undergoes a change of character in the story…
> > I wonder if there’s a designated “Covie town” on Earth or would you just see an Elite next in line at the grocery store, buying milk?
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> The word “asylum” sorta implies that the alien species would be sectioned off from the rest of the world. If what Scotty said is true, then it seems the only species there would be the Unggoy and the Kig-Yar. That makes sense. I feel like if any species would get along with Humans (post-Karen Traviss, that is), then it’d be those two.
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> Also, did Hoya say that the asylum was on Earth? I could imagine the UNSC keeping the species on some backwater colony that survived the H-C War, but I don’t think they’d keep these former enemies so close to home.
Yes Hoya says that Rio is a mess because of all the aliens there. And what you got to take into account in this is that this is happening 4 and a half years from the events of Halo 3 so it brings up a lot of questions.
Is there a constant flow of aliens coming in since back then or is this something recent? Because if it’s a constant flow there must be a whoooooole lot.
And there ARE elites cause they do mention the elite that tried to set off that nuke. And for that type of a mission there must be some ease of movement going on. If there are few to no elites i think one of them running around would be too obvious. But he did get caught before setting the nuke off and that could be because he was too obvious since there are few of them there.
> > > I wonder if there’s a designated “Covie town” on Earth or would you just see an Elite next in line at the grocery store, buying milk?
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> > The word “asylum” sorta implies that the alien species would be sectioned off from the rest of the world. If what Scotty said is true, then it seems the only species there would be the Unggoy and the Kig-Yar. That makes sense. I feel like if any species would get along with Humans (post-Karen Traviss, that is), then it’d be those two.
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> > Also, did Hoya say that the asylum was on Earth? I could imagine the UNSC keeping the species on some backwater colony that survived the H-C War, but I don’t think they’d keep these former enemies so close to home.
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> Yes Hoya says that Rio is a mess because of all the aliens there. And what you got to take into account in this is that this is happening 4 and a half years from the events of Halo 3 so it brings up a lot of questions.
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> Is there a constant flow of aliens coming in since back then or is this something recent? Because if it’s a constant flow there must be a whoooooole lot.
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> And there ARE elites cause they do mention the elite that tried to set off that nuke. And for that type of a mission there must be some ease of movement going on. If there are few to no elites i think one of them running around would be too obvious. But he did get caught before setting the nuke off and that could be because he was too obvious since there are few of them there.
I do see lots of Unggoy seeking asylum on Earth, but I also see lots of Sangheili doing it too. Their homeworld is a mess right now, what with the (we assume) constant war/terrorist movement going on.
Also, “seeking asylum” means taking refuge in another country or, in this case, world. It doesn’t have to mean being delegated to one spot.
And Grunt, I assume there a whole lot. Hoya says that there are so much that Rio is getting jammed up with them.
I’d imagine a lot of Grunts and perhaps Jackals would be taking shelter under humanity. While the other races might be able to get their act together and form their own governments after their split, I can’t see Grunts doing so, and alot of Jackals would see a good opportunity in doing business and allying with humanity.
I always thought at some point they should show that a good portion of Grunts had become a client race of humanity, providing a labor and perhaps military force in exchange for protection, technology, etc. After dealing with the rest of the Covies for so long, I’d imagine they’d jump at a chance to get the same benefits from less jerkish bosses.
> > The covenant client species asylum is connotated as being lacking in Jiralhanae, San’shyuum, Mgalekgolo and Sangheili. <mark>There’s also concept art floating around with an Unggoy minor wearing cyan and the UNSC logo.</mark>
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> That’s not concept art that was me screwing around in a thread, i think, similar to this one.Or I think some one saying why werent there any Covenants in the Infinity or something like that?
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> So i “created” the Delta Grunts.
My mistake then looks awesome though and would definitely have broken up a bit of the SCI-MI atmosphere that clings to Halo 4 like a bad dream.
> > This is old and gives us hope that karen is just showing her own twisted bias side of the coin while “good” covenant forces may still be around.
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> > We have no effen idea where half-jaw is and if he was around jul would not be so rash.
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> What? Half-Jaw would have glassed earth if it weren’t for Arby. He really doesn’t care about humans.
That doesn’t mean he hates us. If Rtas had to choose between us and Jul, he would probably choose us.
I can definitely see there being plenty of Grunt refugees on Earth, with Jackal businessmen starting to set up tentative relations too, perhaps.
One thing I think would be quite likely to happen, based on what we know about ONI’s behaviour, is for attempts to be made to bring the Grunts at least totally under human hegemony, essentially swapping their old Sangheili/Jiralhanae masters for human ones. I don’t think humanity would necessarily be any less oppressive, although of course you have to factor in the undeniable truth that the UNSC is really quite the Mary Sue.
> I can definitely see there being plenty of Grunt refugees on Earth, with Jackal businessmen starting to set up tentative relations too, perhaps.
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> One thing I think would be quite likely to happen, based on what we know about ONI’s behaviour, is for attempts to be made to bring the Grunts at least totally under human hegemony, essentially swapping their old Sangheili/Jiralhanae masters for human ones. I don’t think humanity would necessarily be any less oppressive, although of course you have to factor in the undeniable truth that the UNSC is really quite the Mary Sue.
Why would the UNSC be oppressive like the Covenant?
