So in my opinion the carbine isn’t bad but its far from good it just seems like more of a follow up rifle as if to get mabye an assist rather then a kill the br seems to destroy it in a one one one.
“It’s unbalanced, makes the game inconsistent, and is un-Halo because it’s supposed to be just the BR.”
No, but seriously, ignoring that above, I really like the Carbine. Always have. In fact, if I couldn’t have my LightRifle, I’d probably be a Carbine guy.
My friends LOVE the Carbine. It’s seems like the only weapon they run around with.
It’s definitely a good rifle to run around with for mid-range fights and even for some intense close-up fights if you can get even some kind of advantage for yourself.
I believe it is a skillful rifle, and allows for some very interesting gun fights.
It doesn’t seem that good against the BR for a few reasons:
- The BR takes less skill than the Carbine because the BR forgives the player too easily with it’s spread while the Carbine punishes the player for missing even one shot.
- The BR’s kill time is higher than the Carbine. It’s RoF is a tad bit too fast for its 4sk. It’s essentially a 4sk DMR with much less RRR. Because of this, it has an advantage against its rival. Think about how the DMR fought the old Carbine. It’s basically that all over again, but quicker in kill times.
The Carbine can fight back, but if you’ve blown it by even one shot or the BR got the jump on you by even 1 shot of its 3-shot spread, you’ve lost the fight already.
Love it.
It’s green, it shoots one projectile at a time, it’s great for CQC and it’s not a BR. What more could I ask for?
Still more of an automatics guy myself but if I need a good rifle the CC is my first choice.
I can take BRs on with it but not straight up 1v1. I’ll usually need a height advantage or an early grenade to win. Which doesn’t bother me too much because that’s how I get kills with the AR too. Or you could just say that I’m a terrible shot.
I’m not saying that the BR absolutely needs a ROF nerf but I’m certainly not against it. If it happens that’s great for me but I’m not risking getting into an argument with a BR user on these forums over it so I’m just going to say that I don’t care either way.
I never use the carbine because I feel the BR and DMR outclass it at close and long range which is a shame because even though I don’t use it I think it has a pretty good feel to it ( I don’t see how its un-halo from the second post) especially as its a single shot weapon which I believe is the most classic halo feel, but due to the OP nature of the BR I use that 100% of the time now its just so forgiving its crazy.
Love it. If you strafe well enough, you can beat almost any BR user.
I prefer Light Rifle and Carbine over any other loadout Rifle. Why they had to rebuff BR when it was in perfect balance is beyond me.
I think the reason why the carbine feels like an assist gun is just simply logistics. Due to its burst fire capability, the br has 1 to 3 chance of getting an headshot if shields break on or before that burst. where as, carbine has to fire again for a headshot.
> I prefer Light Rifle and Carbine over any other loadout Rifle. Why they had to rebuff BR when it was in perfect balance is beyond me.
LOL… all three of those rifles were buffed. The light rifle was practically useless, carbine was rather crappy, though it could smoke a br in the right situation and well the br was outgunned by a dmr (which dmr was beating almost every gun) in every range. These buffs to all guns, made them competitive in the range they were intended to be from the start.
I think of the Carbine completely different than you do. The Carbine is really good for me to use and I DESTROY BR users with it. In the right hands, the Covenant Carbine is the most powerful close-mid range precision weapon. It’s just a matter of how good you are with it.
I’ve been using the Carbine since before the weapon tuning update. While it wasn’t so great then, it absolutely destroys now. Whenever I do play the game, I tend to destroy BR users pretty easily with it, since it’s the fastest killing precision rifle if you land every single one of your shots.
The Carbine is amazing, I wouldn’t change it for the world.
If you think the BR can destroy a CC user then you clearly haven’t seen a Carbine in my hands OP. Obviously if they get the drop on you then yeah you’ll struggle to win the fight but if you’ve got a good strafe and rarely miss, 9 times out of ten you’ll beat 'em.
The main reason for the CC being in 4 of my 5 loadouts is that it’s reliable and there’s barely any penalty for missing a shot. A BR user, if somehow misses a shot with the spread has to wait alot longer than a CC user to fire again. In the time it takes for them to miss a shot and fire again, i’ve pumped 2 or 3 shots into them.
However if they get the perfect 4 shot into me, it’s very difficult to bring it back. That’ why I do believe the BR needs the tiniest ROF reduction. But that’s another topic for another day.
> The Carbine is really good for me to use and I DESTROY BR users with it.
> Whenever I do play the game, I tend to destroy BR users pretty easily with it, since it’s the fastest killing precision rifle if you land every single one of your shots.
> If you think the BR can destroy a CC user then you clearly haven’t seen a Carbine in my hands OP. Obviously if they get the drop on you then yeah you’ll struggle to win the fight but if you’ve got a good strafe and rarely miss, 9 times out of ten you’ll beat 'em.
I’m curious to know if the reason that you “destroy” BR users is because of your skill, not the weapon you use. Is it possible that you perform just as well regardless of which weapon you choose? Have you tested your performance using a Carbine vs. using a BR and noticed significant improvements in performance with the Carbine?
> The main reason for the CC being in 4 of my 5 loadouts is that it’s reliable and there’s barely any penalty for missing a shot. A BR user, if somehow misses a shot with the spread has to wait alot longer than a CC user to fire again. In the time it takes for them to miss a shot and fire again, i’ve pumped 2 or 3 shots into them.
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> However if they get the perfect 4 shot into me, it’s very difficult to bring it back. That’ why I do believe the BR needs the tiniest ROF reduction. But that’s another topic for another day.
So the BR is penalized more for missed shots but has a slightly faster ideal killtime. Don’t those two balance each other? And don’t you consider the Carbine to be the superior weapon anyway? Why then should the BR get a nerf?
Carbine is my favorite Weapon. It does kill faster than the BR in 1v1 and if the BR guy misses one shot they’ll pay for it.
Good but underrated. The BR is slightly more powerful than it, and that makes all the difference when it comes to matches. There are exceptions, but I’m speaking generally.
Still not as good as the LR and needle rifle, though.
For custom classes to work in the Halo sandbox there must be a balance between all the primary precision rifles. All rifles should fulfill a specific role and excel in their field. We all know the CC and BR are close to mid range and the LR and DMR should be for mid to long range engagements. Since there’s clashes in which different rifles are competing against eachother thier specific ranges. The killtimes must be the same to ensure it all boils down to skill.
Honestly, if you believe that because one rifle (the BR) has a greater punishment for missing than another rifles (the CC) that makes it fair for having a shorter killtime then I really just don’t under stand people. By these terms, if you have the best Carbine user in the world, someone who never misses, fires as fast as possible and always gets the 7th-shot-headshot. Have him go up against the guy with the best BR, never misses… the CC will never win. Ever.
These two guns are for close to mid range. Sure there’s less punishment for missing with the CC as it has a higher ROF but the BR has spread unlike the Carbine, allowing both to have some redemption. Hell you don’t even need all 12 bullets to hit with the BR. Another perk. Those should be the traits that differ the rifles, not the kill times.
> By these terms, if you have the best Carbine user in the world, someone who never misses, fires as fast as possible and always gets the 7th-shot-headshot. Have him go up against the guy with the best BR, never misses… the CC will never win. Ever.
So then, if the Carbine loses when the players’ skills are perfect, the Carbine would be the inferior weapon–or, at the very most, equal. What, then, would be the purpose of using the Carbine over the BR if not personal preference? Why do Carbine users boast about “destroying” BR users?
> > By these terms, if you have the best Carbine user in the world, someone who never misses, fires as fast as possible and always gets the 7th-shot-headshot. Have him go up against the guy with the best BR, never misses… the CC will never win. Ever.
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> So then, if the Carbine loses when the players’ skills are perfect, the Carbine would be the inferior weapon–or, at the very most, equal. What, then, would be the purpose of using the Carbine over the BR if not personal preference? Why do Carbine users boast about “destroying” BR users?
Yea this is true im also almost done with the carbine just 930 more kills to max it out and then ill be done with it but thank you for your opinions on it ill like to add about the carbine on how frustrsting when you almosy get that 7th shot and the guys ducks behind cover and his buddy comes around the corner blasting me and suddenly im left just SOL thats the main issue i have with the carbine is it gives my opponent a small bit of time more then the dmr or the br to hide and hope i dont come around fast enough to end him i cant say how many times i could tell whn one single carbine was shooting at me id have enough time to duck for cover i mean if he didnt land a head shot i had at least a good 12 shots to just move around and find cover by that time someone on my tem would get him im sure he would be frustrated too. but soon my frustratos will end with the Carbine and move on the the other covenant loadout weapons mainly just worried how ima max out the plasma pistol that thing is pothetically weak.
From what I see of the Carbine, it seems to run on the principle of ‘point at enemy and mash the trigger while juking from side to side’. At range, it’s like a failed DMR, what with it’s 2x scope and that ANNOYING GREEN TINT.
Even in SpOps, the Carbine is the same way. Does seemingly absolutely no damage to shielded enemies, and is only effective against them when combined w/ the plasma pistol.
I love the Carbine. Its easier to aim with than the BR since its only one shot, it shoots as fast as you can pull the trigger, and its fairly accurate to top it all off. I love the Carbine now, I use the Carbine in small games and the Light Rifle in large games.