Counter-Strike feature that must be in Halo 4

Games Other Halo
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The introduction of private chat and party chats greatly detracted from the Halo multiplayer experience.

I’ve been insisting that both private and voice chat be banned from ranked matchmaking for years, and finally a game developer shows enough common sense to do it. Counter-Strike will not let you join a match while in a private chat.

What WHY? There are 3 VERY GOOD REASONS.

1. Ranked matchmaking is competitive. Counter-Strike (and Halo) are team based games. Communication is the most important advantage that a team can have. When someone is in a private chat they can’t hear their team and the team can’t hear them. They belong in a custom game or just playing alone in forge world.

2. For those that use party chat to communicate with the team they are playing with - the game still loses a major strategic feature. In Halo 2 (before stupid private chat existed) when you were killed your mic was cut. While re-spawning you couldn’t continue to call out enemy positions.

3. Private and party chat killed what I believe to be one of the best features of Halo 2 - proximity voice chat. This was awesome. Not only did it add a strategy dynamic (who doesn’t have fond memories of hearing someone sneaking into the bomb room on Zanzibar?). In addition to requiring more strategy it also gave teams a chance to smack talk during the match - and the pleasure of hearing the (GRUNT!) when someone is cut off by getting killed.

So, if it isn’t already party of Halo 4 (and I suspect it isn’t because it isn’t part of COD and that seems to be the model that 343 is following) please use good common sense and remove those features from ranked matchmaking!

Thanks
Charlie

ps - in anticipation of what many of you fools will say I’ve already prepared a few responses.

fool #1 (in high pitched nerdy voice) : “But I use private chat to avoid the little kids that play music and scream”

response : “That doesn’t happen often, and when it does the mute feature is very easy to use. Mute the 1 person that is annoying and you can still communicate with the rest of your team.”

fool #2 (who just dropped his McDonalds cheeseburger on the floor he is so upset by this post) : “Dude I’m popular and I use private chat to talk to all my friends. I’m not some nerd that uses call outs in video games. I don’t need to talk to my team.”

response: "You are not popular. If you had popular friends they would be out doing something cool, not talking to an overweight nerd (you) via xbox party chat. If you think playing a video game and using call outs is nerdy, try playing a video game and talking to a friend that is playing a completely different video game (never mind, that is what you are already doing).

fool #3 : “Whata man. I chat with girls while I play xbox.”

response: “There are 3 girls on xbox live. The probability that you are talking to one of them is slim to none. The probability that a girl that wants to private chat with you on xbox live is actually hot - zero. You can find a better looking girl to chat with in the Orangutang paddock at your local zoo.”

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HAHAHAHAHAHA. I try to remain positive here on the forums, and dont like to be mean, but if you werent so disrespectful you would probably have friends to play with and would want private and party chat.

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Removing party chat won’t make people talk, they will probably just mute everybody in the lobby. It can even turn some people away. My friend played the CS:GO demo and liked it a lot, but when he found out the game forces you into gamechat he’s saying he most likely wont pick it up now.

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People without mikes can’t talk either, why not just ban them too… This is a horrible idea.

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You think forcing people into game chat is gonna make people talk?

I get more people talking in a graveyard than I do in the pre/post game lobbies.

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No, and for the last time, NO! There is no reason to remove party chat, I’d much rather talk to friends when playing Halo than randoms who usually just trash talk. This idea would be much better if everyone had a mic and the community actually communicated politely, but we all know that’s not going to happen. Party chat must remain a feature in Halo 4.

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Kind of defeats the purpose of party chat. With this I wouldnt be able to play halo and talk to my friends who are playing something else.

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Nope.

It will cause more problems.

It won’t force people to talk, it’ll make people mute everyone and ignore everyone. It’ll make them not have fun anymore, and they might even just stop playing the game.

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> The introduction of private chat and party chats greatly detracted from the Halo multiplayer experience.
>
> I’ve been insisting that both private and voice chat be banned from ranked matchmaking for years, and finally a game developer shows enough common sense to do it. Counter-Strike will not let you join a match while in a private chat.
> **
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The one and only time I’m going to say that CoD beat them to the punch.**
> And we disagreed when the CoD fanboys suggested this system for Halo 4, what makes you think that we’ll say yes to Counter-Strike’s? It’s the same thing wearing a different hat.

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> HAHAHAHAHAHA. I try to remain positive here on the forums, and dont like to be mean, but if you werent so disrespectful you would probably have friends to play with and would want private and party chat.

Lol. This.

OP, MW2 had this idea except that chat wasn’t allowed in any of the playlists. The beginning of every game was a mad rush by me and my friends to mute everyone we didn’t know in order to avoid the morons who frequent online gaming.

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why remove party chat? Its gives up all the advantages of talking to your team since your enemy can hear it as well. If I call out a camper he’s gonna hear me and move to a different location so he can just camp some more.

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> HAHAHAHAHAHA. I try to remain positive here on the forums, and dont like to be mean, but if you werent so disrespectful you would probably have friends to play with and would want private and party chat.

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> The introduction of private chat and party chats greatly detracted from the Halo multiplayer experience.
>
> I’ve been insisting that both private and voice chat be banned from ranked matchmaking for years, and finally a game developer shows enough common sense to do it. Counter-Strike will not let you join a match while in a private chat.
>
> What WHY? There are 3 VERY GOOD REASONS.
>
> 1. Ranked matchmaking is competitive. Counter-Strike (and Halo) are team based games. Communication is the most important advantage that a team can have. When someone is in a private chat they can’t hear their team and the team can’t hear them. They belong in a custom game or just playing alone in forge world.
>
> 2. For those that use party chat to communicate with the team they are playing with - the game still loses a major strategic feature. In Halo 2 (before stupid private chat existed) when you were killed your mic was cut. While re-spawning you couldn’t continue to call out enemy positions.
>
> 3. Private and party chat killed what I believe to be one of the best features of Halo 2 - proximity voice chat. This was awesome. Not only did it add a strategy dynamic (who doesn’t have fond memories of hearing someone sneaking into the bomb room on Zanzibar?). In addition to requiring more strategy it also gave teams a chance to smack talk during the match - and the pleasure of hearing the (GRUNT!) when someone is cut off by getting killed.
>
> So, if it isn’t already party of Halo 4 (and I suspect it isn’t because it isn’t part of COD and that seems to be the model that 343 is following) please use good common sense and remove those features from ranked matchmaking!
>
> Thanks
> Charlie
>
> ps - in anticipation of what many of you fools will say I’ve already prepared a few responses.
>
> <mark>fool #1 (in high pitched nerdy voice) : “But I use private chat to avoid the little kids that play music and scream”</mark>
> <mark>response : “That doesn’t happen often, and when it does the mute feature is very easy to use. Mute the 1 person that is annoying and you can still communicate with the rest of your team.”</mark>
>
> <mark>fool #2 (who just dropped his McDonalds cheeseburger on the floor he is so upset by this post) : “Dude I’m popular and I use private chat to talk to all my friends. I’m not some nerd that uses call outs in video games. I don’t need to talk to my team.”</mark>
> <mark>response: "You are not popular. If you had popular friends they would be out doing something cool, not talking to an overweight nerd (you) via xbox party chat. If you think playing a video game and using call outs is nerdy, try playing a video game and talking to a friend that is playing a completely different video game (never mind, that is what you are already doing).</mark>
>
> <mark>fool #3 : “Whata man. I chat with girls while I play xbox.”</mark>
> <mark>response: “There are 3 girls on xbox live. The probability that you are talking to one of them is slim to none. The probability that a girl that wants to private chat with you on xbox live is actually hot - zero. You can find a better looking girl to chat with in the Orangutang paddock at your local zoo.”</mark>

Oh, and I thought I’d address your responses.

Thats the kind of people we’d like to avoid. People who are so full of themselves, people that call everyone who disagrees with them fools.

#1. From your experience. For me, I rarely hear deep voices when I actually choose to listen. And when I do, they’re often mixed with cussing, trash talking, and other things. Forcing me to listen and respond to this would just make me not play it.

#2. Seriously? Now you’re calling private chat users overweight nerds? Again, you’re what we go into party chat to avoid.

#3. Wow. That did it. Insulting the female base of gaming? Only 3 girls on LIVE? Saying that all girls who use party chat are ugly… wow.

I’m sorry, but you made yourself look bad from the beginning.

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Lol no. Party Chat lets you discuss strategy’s with your team. In any other case, you would be shouting your plan off to everyon

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wow bro you are… mad o.o

honestly I don’t care about winning or losing so why talk to people that I don’t want to talk to? There’s a reason your mommy told you not to talk to strangers :wink:

P.S. I know a girl on LIVE that’s “hot” so i don’t think you’re argument is valid :open_mouth: (there are way more than 3 btw)

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Reading the OP:

“There seems to be no sign of intelligent life anywhere”

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Guys, maybe we’re being harsh.

Maybe he only knows 3 girls in his whole life, and is feeling very lonely.

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Forcing people to give up features they enjoy just to play in a particular playlist will result in fewer people entering that playlist.

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> Reading the OP:
>
> “There seems to be no sign of intelligent life anywhere”

Says the Republican…

Only joking, I’m actually a conservative

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I may have agreed if you came off more polite than the randoms who talk in Reach and if you didn’t suggest the whole of MM featured this. If I’m not in a party with my friends my default audio is set so everyone else is muted. You say you don’t get trash talkers or little screaming kids that often? Lucky you because if I don’t have both in most of my games it’s one or the other every other game. It would really prevent me from enjoying the multiplayer I’d actually like to try out if I was forced into game chat. I especially like those guys who talk trash the whole game and call you a piece of crap even if you totally destroyed them.

I play a little CoD so thatw ay I have a right to say that Halo is better. There are playlists in the game that force game chat and they have significantly lower population than other playlists and I never go there because I mute anyone who utters a sound in COD because its never anything nice. Plus what if me and my friends aren’t even in the same game? Just because I’m lone wolfing in Halo 4 means I can’t talk to my friend playing Gears or Minecraft?