Now this is a long shot but could Jorge, the giant Spartan II from Reach, still be alive? He was blasted by a slipspace drive turned bomb and in doing so was likely sucked into slipspace and if intact moved somewhere else. It is more likely that the Prophet of Truth became a member of Greenpeace than Jorge being alive but I always felt he could have done with more development (like all of Reachs characters) and I would like him back at some point. Hell it could even be a prequel.
Thoughts on his unlikely survival?
No. He has been confirmed dead for years now.
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> No. He has been confirmed dead for years now.
Spartans never die. I will hold onto this against all damn logic.
That’s nice, but you’re still wrong.
Jorge is dead; even if he survived the jump, he was left helmet-less on a corvette that’s fallen to pieces. Hell, maybe that’s why he took his helmet off; rather than a long death of oxygen starvation, he wanted to make it quick. In fact, he never even considered any other option other than blowing himself up. Maybe he knew, deep down, that Reach was going to fall, and decided to kill himself because he couldn’t face it.
I talk a lot of -Yoink-, don’t I?
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> Jorge is dead; even if he survived the jump, he was left helmet-less on a corvette that’s fallen to pieces. Hell, maybe that’s why he took his helmet off; rather than a long death of oxygen starvation, he wanted to make it quick. In fact, he never even considered any other option other than blowing himself up. Maybe he knew, deep down, that Reach was going to fall, and decided to kill himself because he couldn’t face it.
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I like that idea of him knowing it was going to fall so he ends his life.
Nah. I’m pretty sure he’s dead. But I can see Truth joining Greenpeace. That’s great theory man!
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> That’s nice, but you’re still wrong.
Never said I was right.
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You know that that much parroted line was a lie, yes? Propaganda to keep up morale. It quite literally could not be further from the truth…
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Yes I am more than aware
I’ll be honest I was bored and I came on here to alleviate my boredom by typing some stuff.
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> I’ll be honest I was bored and I came on here to alleviate my boredom by typing some stuff.
…Yeah, that pretty much sums up everything on the internet, doesn’t it?
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Oh yeah. Just need something relating to cats now.
Its actually entirely plausible, the slipspace portal engulfed the entirety of the Corvette. The only part of the Corvette that was damaged was the thrusters, but obviously they weren’t damaged enough to be unusable, or else the Corvette wouldn’t have been able to go to refuel with the Super Carrier. So, unless stated elsewhere that the Covenant soldiers still on the ship killed him, or he starved to death, Jorge is on a perfectly functional Corvette that was jumped to an unknown location by a slipspace drive.
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> Its actually entirely plausible, the slipspace portal engulfed the entirety of the Corvette. The only part of the Corvette that was damaged was the thrusters, but obviously they weren’t damaged enough to be unusable, or else the Corvette wouldn’t have been able to go to refuel with the Super Carrier. So, unless stated elsewhere that the Covenant soldiers still on the ship killed him, or he starved to death, Jorge is on a perfectly functional Corvette that was jumped to an unknown location by a slipspace drive.
Love the optimism and I really hope it is true. Liked him more than the rest of Noble team. If he had survived Reach it would have been great for him to be in Guardians.
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> Its actually entirely plausible, the slipspace portal engulfed the entirety of the Corvette. The only part of the Corvette that was damaged was the thrusters, but obviously they weren’t damaged enough to be unusable, or else the Corvette wouldn’t have been able to go to refuel with the Super Carrier. So, unless stated elsewhere that the Covenant soldiers still on the ship killed him, or he starved to death, Jorge is on a perfectly functional Corvette that was jumped to an unknown location by a slipspace drive.
Actually, because the slipspace drive was improperly mounted, and intentionally primed to fire incorrectly, the portal would have expanded from inside the Corvette, tearing it apart. Even if it DID make it through the portal, the Corvette’s slipspce engine was not engaged (nor were its shields up), meaning that as soon as the ship transitioned into slipspace, it would have been ripped to pieces by the intertwined dimensional turbulence and bombarded by incredibly lethal radiation.
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> Its actually entirely plausible, the slipspace portal engulfed the entirety of the Corvette. The only part of the Corvette that was damaged was the thrusters, but obviously they weren’t damaged enough to be unusable, or else the Corvette wouldn’t have been able to go to refuel with the Super Carrier. So, unless stated elsewhere that the Covenant soldiers still on the ship killed him, or he starved to death, Jorge is on a perfectly functional Corvette that was jumped to an unknown location by a slipspace drive.
Right… no.
The slipspace drive was dismounted from its proper use on the Savannah and repurposed as a makeshift bomb. When detonated, it sheared the Long Night of Solace in half because it was within reach of the radius of the portal’s expansion. In order to create a slipspace portal, it has to create a tear in space, and since the explosion began from within the Ardent Prayer we know that would have been torn up too.
Otherwise there would be no point in slipspace portals having to be opened up at the prow of a ship if they could just instantaneously jump by creating a slipspace portal from within it.
Kat literally says at the beginning of the mission that the similar event at Cygnus ended up with 700 dead because the slipspace drive wasn’t mounted properly. This is what they were recreating in lieu of the nukes they didn’t have. Why would Jorge’s fate be any different? He has extremely limited oxygen, and even if the Ardent Prayer survived being torn to pieces then he’s going to be adrift in space, or he could have materialised inside a sun.
There’s just no way that this can work, and that’s the way it should be. Jorge’s sacrifice was one of the few thematically poignant moments in Reach, I’d hate to see what I regard as one of the few good story points of that game utterly devalued by contriving his survival.
Asides from the fact that it’s obvious Jorge died, what would Jorge’s return really offer? It just massively undermines Halo: Reach’s story. Besides, I think 343 have intended for Blue Team to be the last active Spartan-II team. They still have to explain Grey Team, Red Team and Naomi
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Kurt could still be alive, right guys? Guys? Hello?
no, no, no