Could 343I kill the farming if they really wanted?
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Here are some options I thought up to resolve the farming:
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The nuclear option would be to change the Achilles armor into a rare or a uncommon or even a common that can drop for anyone.
A majority of farming Spartan companies would dissolve almost instantaneously.
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A mother of all bombs option would be to replace the kill requirement with a ranked arena wins requirement.
This should not allow for wins to count against people in the same company matching up trying to boost.
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A lesser of two evils option would be to make the existing requirements arena only.
BTB would likely become a catastrophe from that.
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The punch below the belt option would be to lower the allowed party size in Warzone to no more than 6 and block menu joining those parties and groups to prevent Spartan company room supremacy.
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The slip on a banana peel option would be to revamp all Warzone spawns to be as random, erratic, and unpredictable as possible.
This would have people spawning at the very farthest point away from objectives and hostiles or two feet right behind them.
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The hear no evil, see no evil, and speak no evil option needs no explanation.
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Edit: new idea:
Another simple option would be a kill limit counter that could end a match as a tie once a team runs up 400 kills or about 33 and 1/3 per each player of a 12 spartan squad.
I’ve been farmed once recently and the idea that it’s being allowed on even the slightest level is failure on 343I’s part to defend the integrity of the this game.
When Destiny was getting Cave farmed Bungie stopped it.
When Mass Effect 3 was getting White Geth Gold farmed Bioware stopped it.
When any MMO ever gets farmed those Developers stop it.
It seems more and more that 343I intended for this farming to occur or they don’t give a hoot about it currently.
Nuclear- Absolutely not. It is the only armor set that requires effort, removing that would remove any effort required to unlock armor.
MOAB- You can’t retroactively remove the worth of people’s efforts.
LOTE- There are warzone specific requirements, or one’s that are near impossible in arena
PBBO- People have 12 man teams already. Why should people who don’t want to play with randoms be forced to play with randoms.
SOBP- Obviously not
I don’t think you know the difference between farming and playing against a good team, while your team actually defends the core. I have been farmed once in literally hundreds of games. I have been on full teams, and played with complete teams of randoms. My teams do not farm, but moving in to the core typically takes 2-3 minutes once we triple cap. If you rush and fail, the defending team can run out and grab an armory. It is called playing defensively, while pushing the other team. It isn’t farming. There is a farming thread going around now, which is a perfect example of farming. When I was famed in warzone assault, the entire enemy team took over our core room, and defended our own core from us, until we reached 11 minutes, so they could get their REQ points. we were forced to spawn outside the home base and try and take it back from them. We were spawn killed almost instantly. That is farming.
The only way they could kill the farming is if they removed the horrible REQ system and went back to challenges. I’m literally tired of playing the same matches over, over for part of an armour or endless texture swaps for vehicles/weapons or endless emblems. Even the Achilles armour is a pretty bad armour and I have literally no interest in wasting countless hours for an armour that I dislike the look of, yet I’m expected to waste countless hours farming it because 343i couldn’t be bothered putting a worthwhile challenge to get people to earn it.
Since farming for types of kills, etc… becomes a bit ridiculous after a while and it just seems like a poor excuse to get people to keep playing. -_-
They might also be able to get rid of a part of it ( Triple capping) by having a timer on how long the core is vulnerable…
Maybe the core strength would slightly decrease over a specific amount of time and eventually die…
Just a thought but it might just help…
I’ve been farmed once recently and the idea that it’s being allowed on even the slightest level is failure on 343I’s part to defend the integrity of the this game.
When Destiny was getting Cave farmed Bungie stopped it.
When Mass Effect 3 was getting White Geth Gold farmed Bioware stopped it.
When any MMO ever gets farmed those Developers stop it.
It seems more and more that 343I intended for this farming to occur or they don’t give a hoot about it currently.
I’ve never been a victim of farming, so that’s probably why I’m apathetic to it. Nor am I a farmer.
I think at this stage nothing should be done to change the Achilles dynamic. Changing the requirements would cause tremendous uproar with those who have already obtained it, and that is the true hardcore crowd. Isn’t that the group that everyone wants Halo to be catered to? Not filthy casuals?!
Didn’t people want a challenging armor to get that required teamwork?
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> I’ve never been a victim of farming, so that’s probably why I’m apathetic to it. Nor am I a farmer.
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> I think at this stage nothing should be done to change the Achilles dynamic. Changing the requirements would cause tremendous uproar with those who have already obtained it, and that is the true hardcore crowd. Isn’t that the group that everyone wants Halo to be catered to? Not filthy casuals?!
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> Didn’t people want a challenging armor to get that required teamwork?
Except it doesn’t require team-work for Achilles. It’s just farming like everything else. It just requires players to keep farming different requirements. Now if they did something like the Vidmaster achievements then that would be a challenging armour that required team-work, is actually something worth aiming for.
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> > I’ve never been a victim of farming, so that’s probably why I’m apathetic to it. Nor am I a farmer.
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> > I think at this stage nothing should be done to change the Achilles dynamic. Changing the requirements would cause tremendous uproar with those who have already obtained it, and that is the true hardcore crowd. Isn’t that the group that everyone wants Halo to be catered to? Not filthy casuals?!
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> > Didn’t people want a challenging armor to get that required teamwork?
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> Except it doesn’t require team-work for Achilles. It’s just farming like everything else. It just requires players to keep farming different requirements. Now if they did something like the Vidmaster achievements then that would be a challenging armour that required team-work, is actually something worth aiming for.
I just wish that we could get an armor that required a skillful achievement and not grinding. And an actually good looking armor, unlike Achilles.
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> Nuclear- Absolutely not. It is the only armor set that requires effort, removing that would remove any effort required to unlock armor.
> MOAB- You can’t retroactively remove the worth of people’s efforts.
> LOTE- There are warzone specific requirements, or one’s that are near impossible in arena
> PBBO- People have 12 man teams already. Why should people who don’t want to play with randoms be forced to play with randoms.
> SOBP- Obviously not
> I don’t think you know the difference between farming and playing against a good team, while your team actually defends the core. I have been farmed once in literally hundreds of games. I have been on full teams, and played with complete teams of randoms. My teams do not farm, but moving in to the core typically takes 2-3 minutes once we triple cap. If you rush and fail, the defending team can run out and grab an armory. It is called playing defensively, while pushing the other team. It isn’t farming. There is a farming thread going around now, which is a perfect example of farming. When I was famed in warzone assault, the entire enemy team took over our core room, and defended our own core from us, until we reached 11 minutes, so they could get their REQ points. we were forced to spawn outside the home base and try and take it back from them. We were spawn killed almost instantly. That is farming.
The farming thread you refer to sounds like boosting actually.
SMH… news flash… “farming” has and always will happen in fps games… every halo I have played I have seen way they weaklings call “farming” . If your team can’t mount an offense or proper defense why should the other team stop killing the other team? Bad beats will happen. I have been on both sides of one sided games. Sorry but in the real world it’s not fair some times and not every one gets a trophy. After a bad loss just move on to the next game.
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> > I’ve never been a victim of farming, so that’s probably why I’m apathetic to it. Nor am I a farmer.
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> > I think at this stage nothing should be done to change the Achilles dynamic. Changing the requirements would cause tremendous uproar with those who have already obtained it, and that is the true hardcore crowd. Isn’t that the group that everyone wants Halo to be catered to? Not filthy casuals?!
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> > Didn’t people want a challenging armor to get that required teamwork?
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> Except it doesn’t require team-work for Achilles. It’s just farming like everything else. It just requires players to keep farming different requirements. Now if they did something like the Vidmaster achievements then that would be a challenging armour that required team-work, is actually something worth aiming for.
You get farmed by full-party teams, and not by randoms all put together. They can’t coordinate a proper farm. That is teamwork.
I’m not saying it’s good for Halo, but it does require teamwork.
Also, Achilles does promote teamwork because you have to join a Spartan company and then you need to [read: should] coordinate further to get the Armour and Helmet. The company I’m in organizes gaming nights and picks certain commendations to focus on. That is also teamwork.
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> Could 343I kill the farming if they really wanted?
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> Here are some options I thought up to resolve the farming:
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> The nuclear option would be to change the Achilles armor into a rare or a uncommon or even a common that can drop for anyone.
> A majority of farming Spartan companies would dissolve almost instantaneously.
> __
> A mother of all bombs option would be to replace the kill requirement with a ranked arena wins requirement.
> This should not allow for wins to count against people in the same company matching up trying to boost.
> __
> A lesser of two evils option would be to make the existing requirements arena only.
> BTB would likely become a catastrophe from that.
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> The punch below the belt option would be to lower the allowed party size in Warzone to no more than 6 and block menu joining those parties and groups to prevent Spartan company room supremacy.
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> The slip on a banana peel option would be to revamp all Warzone spawns to be as random, erratic, and unpredictable as possible.
> This would have people spawning at the very farthest point away from objectives and hostiles or two feet right behind them.
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> The hear no evil, see no evil, and speak no evil option needs no explanation.
The nuclear option would probably be best, but some companies might have earned it legit which wouldn’t be very fair on them I guess.
Or they could just KILL the achilles requirements and make it a mythic req. Who gives a -Yoink- about the effort the farming -Yoink- have put into ruining the game for everyone? It’d probably make it easier for them to get it anyway, and it would make Warzone fun again. Its basically a win-win.
Farming and spawn-killing will always take place. Achilles has nothing to do with it. I recently got farmed in WZA by a full team, all wearing Achilles, so they clearly weren’t trying to earn the armor or helmet. Once they had our core vulnerable (a task they accomplished in under 3 minutes), they immediately took it down to below 25%…and then left it there and proceeded to simply storm the back of our home base, squads of 3 picking off people as they spawned.
Once the timer ran down to 10 seconds, only then did they blow the core.
-Yoink- happens. These types of players reflect poorly on the fanbase as a whole, but they’re not going anywhere…armor or not.
i see only one solution: A full fireteam should not be matched against a team of randoms.
none of those options are viable.
they should give all complaining players a lesson to teach them to distinguish farming from losing.
if your team is defending the core it is losing.
if the enemy gets to the core and doesnt destroy it is farming. (to a certain extend, because a player camping there to get some easy kills with a blaze of glory is common)
the kills required from level 4 to 5 are almost 400K
that are 400k people that need to die for 100 people to recieve the helmet. thats just one level for one commendation.
there are multile decent suggestions made to combat farming. for example give players that die repeatedly while getting trip capped overshields an damageboosts. or free reqs.
lowering the requirements for achilles would be an option. but people who have it wont be happy. myself included.
there are companies who have the armor/helmet and got it without farming. it is not fair for those who are fair to be treated like the ones that arent.
same with teabagging.
tbag me cause i wear achilles and i will deff report you.
Sorry but all options are terrible. Here is one option that works every time, just quit! It’s the best to never get farmed again. Just do it. Nobody cares if you quit, you won’t get banned for quitting a few times and quitting will keep your blood pressure down.
Don’t be so naive. People will always farm. You can remove REQs, remove Achilles, all these futile ideas, it won’t stop people from farming. There are a plethora of threads calling people out who still farm despite already having Achilles. People enjoy dominating others, simple as that.
You want to stop farming once and for all? Shut down MP servers. Because that’s the only thing that will do it.
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> Could 343I kill the farming if they really wanted?
> __
> Here are some options I thought up to resolve the farming:
> __
> The nuclear option would be to change the Achilles armor into a rare or a uncommon or even a common that can drop for anyone.
> A majority of farming Spartan companies would dissolve almost instantaneously.
> __
> A mother of all bombs option would be to replace the kill requirement with a ranked arena wins requirement.
> This should not allow for wins to count against people in the same company matching up trying to boost.
> __
> A lesser of two evils option would be to make the existing requirements arena only.
> BTB would likely become a catastrophe from that.
> __
> The punch below the belt option would be to lower the allowed party size in Warzone to no more than 6 and block menu joining those parties and groups to prevent Spartan company room supremacy.
> __
> The slip on a banana peel option would be to revamp all Warzone spawns to be as random, erratic, and unpredictable as possible.
> This would have people spawning at the very farthest point away from objectives and hostiles or two feet right behind them.
> __
> The hear no evil, see no evil, and speak no evil option needs no explanation.
Don’t you ever say that dumb -Yoink- out your mouth again . Now go back in war zone and get farmed some more
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> there are companies who have the armor/helmet and got it without farming. it is not fair for those who are fair to be treated like the ones that arent.
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> same with teabagging.
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> tbag me cause i wear achilles and i will deff report you.
To be honest, I wouldn’t even recognize Achilles armor on a player, even If I happened to kill someone wearing it…
I honestly don’t know what the fuss is about the armor - it doesn’t give any abilities or bonuses, it doesn’t get you anything other than an achievement. It’s just a glorified weapon skin, like all armors. It’s a cash cow for 343i, nothing more
I get it that lots of people put lots of effort to get it, but other than status, what does it give you? especially when I can’t say I’ve even seen it. I’m kinda busy killing or being killed to notice what variant of the exact same body armor that person is wearing…