Controller Players Living in the Past Are Infinite's Greatest Threat

Oh please. I was 3400 SR in overwatch when I played it a few years ago. I’m no pro, but I can aim just fine on KbM.

You way over value the population of PC players. Also, are we just gonna pretend the MCC didn’t release on PC in 2019?

Man OP really started an EmberSkirmish here huh?

Well, the likelihood of me playing against a player like Lucid is literally zero, so good thing I don’t have to worry about that.

You’re not. We can literally can see your games and in your last 5 games alone everyone was either unranked with stats comparable to yours and the ones that were ranked were within your bracket range. You had one game with a diamond,plat and 2 gold and those guys look like they were in a group together.

Agreed, you should embrace it. Glad we’re on the same page.

lol and they left because of what reason?

You do know that those stats on its own are useless since:

  1. There are people tanking there stats for ranked purposes
  2. There is a difference between gettings a k/d while being carefully and slowly picking ppl of or getting the same k/d while running across the map carelessly and just shooting everybody who pops up. In a 1v1 the latter while absolutely destroy the first.
  3. Getting a 2.0 k/d going 2-1 doesn’t require the same skill als going 20-10.
  4. Since SBMM does a little (not a lot, just a little) the stats will not go far off anyway (unless you are at the very highest levels or very lowest levels). However, because it is extremely weak there are huge skillgaps in matches, but normaly you would go in the unlucky side and lucky side about the same numbers of time, not the unlucky side almost the entire day (idk what games you have looked in, because the last 2 games before i quit where the exceptions that day)

Just to name 4. And these guys i was facing where definitely more skilled. In a 1v1 i never could kill them. So don’t tell me they where the same skill while they clearly were not.

its not that the Keyboard and mouse players use hacks.
its the PC platform that use hacks.
since there can also use the controler input on the PC platform and still use cheats on it.

and thats why maybe controler players have make a thread from day one that the aim assist is really low and need a buff since its lower then halo 5.

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The last MNK vs controller thread went over 300 posts, so I’ll be glad when they toggle crossplay or remove it altogether.

Then all your going to hear is the PC crowd complaining about the hackers and can’t find good games quickly. I mean, until the steam population comes back (never going to happen).

My thing is with this whole debate is if the controller is better, go get a controller for the love of God. Not evey game is going to work better with a MNK.

They’re trying to sell xboxes. Not PCs. That’s why they wanted infinite for the series x launch so bad.

Can you imagine if Xbox all of a sudden came out and said we’re getting rid of the controller in favour of MNK? Can you imagine couch coop?? Lol "ok Bobby, let’s move the kitchen table to the living room to play xbox’

At least it’ll look like the LAN parties of old.

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Me2. Been playin since halo 1. And xbox is a console based game sooo

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With the size of the budget, this game had and what we currently have it is a joke and MnK vs controller is the least of its issues, sure everyone should be able to play with their preference but they are aiming at the average consumer and guess what they will use?? Unfortunately, it’s just another not so good halo game, it’s never been the same since Bungie left. Let’s hope 343 will keep releasing updates and the game will become a thing of beauty. Probably wishful thinking but one can hope.

The game is a buggy mess. I stopped playing on PC because of the constant crashing. There’s also the lack of content and all the other problems the game has that has nothing to do with input. The majority of CoD players play on controller as well and that game does fine on PC.

1.) Almost everyone you played against has not done their 10 matches and had roughly 0.50 KDA and low accuracy. All within the same range of your statistics. I doubt they were “tanking” for ranked and 343 recently changed their CSR/MMR settings so we have no idea how it actually works right now.

2.) This argument is lost when you go below 1 k/d lol.

3.) I have more concerns if you end a game with only 2 kills.

4.) Your match history suggests that SBMM in this game works very well.

i have found one that has 763 post’s about it and its also from this year.

then some people that not belive that this game has a cheating problem and also playing from the PC platform will understand it how it feels when most off the console players have turn off crossplay and told it from the start about the problem.

and that there not find game’s fast then its there own problem more.

same with some other game’s like halo wars where a M&K is better to use then a controler more.

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halo 5 had higher aim assist because of the advanced movement. Really doesnt take more than one brain cell to figure that one out. This game is by far the easiest game on controller to pick up. Skill gap is nearly non existent on controller lobbies too lol.

you say that but once u head into high diamond and onyx lobbies u will feel the pain of the input disadvantage. All the top 2% of kbm all left because of this. Controller is an instant 5% accuracy buff.

what about halo 3 explane that to me.
since halo 3 has no advanced movement at all.
and its still has a better aim assist then halo 5 with advanced movement.
so it has notting to do with advanced movement at all

u both have points, but i would love crossplay to be removed or not forced on PC Kbm players. Would be nice to have some parity before they find a new way to balance the inputs because controller excels both at long and close range in this game. A game that truly shows the disadvantages and advantages of both inputs is apex legends, through the skill gap and aim assist or lack an input has. Fyi its also possible to cheat on console. its not impossible, its just not as accessible and people wouldnt go through the hassle with it, but there are cheaters on that platform.

i like to see it more remove at all since you fix then a lot off other problems the same time also.
and if its becoming a option i can deal with that also since it will fix also the same problems at the same time.

but the PC platform has its ultra high reputation off the cheaters.
and the console’s have that almost not a reputation.

if you read is on the cheaters thread you see that all the players accept that there are also some people on the console that use cheats.
but it has not that ultra high reputation what the PC platform always has and keeps having.

Well good thing ranked has a input filter for solo/duo.

not reputation. Like i said the technicality is much more up there because PCs can dig into game files quite easy. On xbox its a little harder but does have some workarounds. That is why people dont go through with the hassle, thanks to microsoft’s basic UI of the xbox line. I wouldnt mind keeping crossplay separate until 343i addresses the issue. But it will never bring the PC crowd back because of their poor decisions that they have made in the past.