Constructive Criticism for Halo 4

Games Other Halo
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Guys, like I’ve said before, I don’t have the game yet.

For quite awhile I’ve been browsing the forums and I’ve seen little to no constructive posts. What I have seen, is a lot of dev and game bashing. While some of the points are valid, a lot of them are overlooked because the original poster posted in such a manner that it came across as negative.

So below, I’d like you all to give constructie criticism and suggestions for Halo 4. If you feel there is just something thats not right, or something you’d like to see change, post it below.

Keep the following in mind while you post:

> Aside from a thread every once in a while, theres little to no constructive criticism going on here. All I really see (outside of the occaisional threads that mostly die pretty quickly) are people saying “343i have failed us” “this game sucks” “Your games sucks, heres how you fix it.”
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> Almost nobody here ever says “Hey, 343i. I’m not really enjoying this game and there are a lot of other displeased people too. As a community so that everyone agrees, here are the solutions we’ve come up with to some of these problems.”
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> ^That would be much more likely to get noticed than “This games sucks. You suck. I hate the game. It’s cod. This is the only way this will ever survive ever. If you don’t do these suggestions it will die.”
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> But instead, most people just mindleslly dev bash over and over again in threads that have miniscule difference between one another.
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> Now, that said, some of those threads do have valid points. But what do you think the likely hood is that they will listen to you if there first thing you say is that the game sucks?
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> What if I were to go onto one of your threads and say: “You guys are idiots. You’re all morons and none of you know anything about games.” And then proceed to list perfectly good ideas that would help the game and yourself a lot. Would you listen?
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> No. You would likely fight back, which is whats going to happen if we keep insulting them instead of pointing out the good first.
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> Politeness people. If you are polite, there is a much, MUCH better chance that they will pay attention and reply to you.

Thanks,

Silent

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Thanks Silent. Hopefully alot of people will see this :stuck_out_tongue: The only constructive criticism I have seen is about Custom Games.

Anyway, I think Action Sack should be added in soon (and permanantly). Things get abit boring at times without some Griffball and games like that :smiley:

And btw, I love the game. Thanks 343! :slight_smile:

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Take off your rose-tinted glasses. There is both bashing and praising in an equal amount. There is also as much constructive criticism as there is nonconstructive.

There is no need for this thread. It adds nothing to discussion about Halo 4. At least bashing threads are actually about this game.

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> Take off your rose-tinted glasses. There is both bashing and praising in an equal amount. There is also as much constructive criticism as there is nonconstructive.
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> There is no need for this thread. It adds nothing to discussion about Halo 4. At least bashing threads are actually about this game.

… Hello Sitri.

Bitter towards me as always.

Anyway, I am merely saying what I see, and lately I have seen little to no constructive posts around here.

Also, look at the bottom of my post (the first one)

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> Guys, like I’ve said before, I don’t have the game yet.
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> Thats not the point of this thread. Aside from a thread every once in a while, theres little to no constructive criticism going on here. All I really see (outside of the occaisional threads that mostly die pretty quickly) are people saying “343i have failed us” “this game sucks” “Your games sucks, heres how you fix it.”
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> Almost nobody here ever says “Hey, 343i. I’m not really enjoying this game and there are a lot of other displeased people too. As a community so that everyone agrees, here are the solutions we’ve come up with to some of these problems.”
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> ^That would be much more likely to get noticed than “This games sucks. You suck. I hate the game. It’s cod. This is the only way this will ever survive ever. If you don’t do these suggestions it will die.”
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> But instead, most people just mindleslly dev bash over and over again in threads that have miniscule difference between one another.
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> Now, that said, some of those threads do have valid points. But what do you think the likely hood is that they will listen to you if there first thing you say is that the game sucks?
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> What if I were to go onto one of your threads and say: “You guys are idiots. You’re all morons and none of you know anything about games.” And then proceed to list perfectly good ideas that would help the game and yourself a lot. Would you listen?
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> No. You would likely fight back, which is whats going to happen if we keep insulting them instead of pointing out the good first.
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> Politeness people. If you are polite, there is a much, MUCH better chance that they will pay attention and reply to you.
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> Now that, that is said, post some constructive criticism below for what you think about halo 4. Keep it clean, be polite, and don’t attack people you don’t agree with.
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> Thanks,
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> Silent

I tried to make a thread just like this yesterday, but unfortunately it like so many other respectful constructive threads I have created, fell beneath the rubble of salt that this community has created. Anyway here are my suggestions…

1.) Instant Respawn (Infinity Slayer only) - I know a lot of people think instant respawn is a bad idea for Halo, and currently it does make matches a little too hectic. So rather than removing instant respawn I think a good idea to fine tune it would be to make it a reward after getting so many kills. For example, if you kill three people you get the option to instant respawn when you die, but if you die again before getting another three kills you have to wait to respawn. This idea would reward teams, make revenge killing much less prevalent, and actually add another layer of depth. In time people might end up saving their instant respawns for a time when they know their team needs them back immediately.

2.) Remove Active Camo (Big Team Battle Only) - This ability in conjunction with a sniper or other power weapon is really hard to deal with. Since, active camo works just fine in Infinity Slayer I would rather not see it changed, but if they at least make it an ordinance in Big Team Battle only it would help a lot I imagine.

3.) Weapon Balances - I think they all are very well balanced I just feel if the BR had a slightly faster rate of fire it would beat the DMR in medium to close range battles more often. (Making the BR a 4sk seems a little too OP imo) That and it would be nice if the carbine either received a slight power boost or a smaller reticule so it is more accurate. Aside from that everything is fine.

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I completely agree with you unfortunately these sort of threads only end up going for a few pages while the “343 ruined Halo/You guys are a bunch of whiners” threads go for days. Nonetheless as a supporter of constructive criticism, I’ll leave my criticisms here.
My complaints are:
<mark>Campaign</mark>

  • Overrelience on terminals to tell ingame story
  • lack of game changing/imaginative weaponry (e.g needler,sword,gravity hammer .But Im guessing they were saving those for the sequals…hopefully]
  • Armour abilities too grounded in campaign(suggestion- being able to summon an AI /crawler)
  • Aside from Cortana and the chief no one really got characterised in game, not even the didact(maybe this was to emphasize their relationship but the story did end up suffering)
  • Stop trying to revert the elites back to Halo CE they were scary but they didnt really have anything else going for them.(might I suggest making them more like the elites from Halo wars-They were scary but they were also honourable/organised/cultured and please try to characterise them like bungie did in Halo 2)
  • Terminals should be on disk, making people go through way point to get better story exposition was a really dumb/bad decision
    Multiplayer
    Im usually an offline gamer so I really dont have anything constructive to suggest except
  • Please reduce the probability of Saw being dropped in Infinity slayer or nerf it.
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> Take off your rose-tinted glasses. There is both bashing and praising in an equal amount. There is also as much constructive criticism as there is nonconstructive.
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> There is no need for this thread. It adds nothing to discussion about Halo 4. At least bashing threads are actually about this game.

He is merely trying to gather what little sanity he can from this forum, so we can attempt to have a legitimate discussion about Halo 4. If you really don’t like this thread or what it has to offer than don’t bother posting as your comment was neither constructive, or about Halo.

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> Anyway, I am merely saying what I see, and lately I have seen little to no constructive posts around here.
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> Also, look at the bottom of my post (the first one)

You can always take a look at my post history. :slight_smile:

Jokes aside, I think you should make the point of discussion of this thread more evident as I was almost about to lock it before I read the small paragraph at the bottom. I can imagine many people missing that paragraph and thinking this is yet another thread discussing people’s attitudes and not the game.

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I know how you feel. I’ve literally started to become a lot more rude with people because they keep posting stupid threads thats clearly just hateful bashing because they got their -Yoink- beat. The few constructive threads iv’e seen i have replied politely and posted counter arguments. But as you pointed out those die off quickly.

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anyone who thinks reach is better then halo 4 is failing to adjust to change, or, they just don’t like the illusion of skill being gone (bloom :wink: )

halo 4 does have a its flaws though.

  • campaign was confusing, the gameplay and missions were fun to play through how ever i got lost in the story, i have no idea why i’m fighting the covenant, how cortana and chief knows whats things are without any analyzing and so on. i have to actually ask my friends who’ve read the books whats going on which is really annoying and i still don’t fully understand it.

  • forge & customs are a massive letdown, i don’t blame 343i for this, i blame CA since they worked on most of it, forge has tools mising and all the usable objects are the same ones from reach, they even have to cheek to say that all the new “features” adds more “creativity”. the forge environment are useless, the enviornments either have an obstruction or force a very specific gameplay style removing creativity. the custom gametypes are just broken, we’ve got a bunch of gametype options that do absolutely nothing when actually changed, the lack of gametypes as well prevents the creation of new gametypes.

  • multiplayer is alright, the base mechanics of multiplayer are fine but the customizable loadouts and personal ordinance really ruin it and has somewhat butchered the sandbox, all the little different advantages make a big difference and have already create a “god loadout”, active camp + boltshot is extremely OP because the boltshot is 1-hit kill and active camo makes for extremely easy ambushes. personal ordinance is another pain because its random and contains power weapons, some players are getting lucky and reciveing 1-hit kill weapons and others useless stuff and quite often this has been the deciding factor in a game, one person gets lucky by getting a binary rifle and completely turns the game around and wins all because he got lucky.

the maps are horrible, the inside areas are claustrophobic and the outside areas are just way to open, this creates very awkward map movement and gameplay which has become quite frustrating, the indoor areas are a complete bottle kneck making for easy kills and very awkward battles and the outside areas are just having people sit in the doors of the indoor areas cross maping… again this is CA since they worked on a good portion of the maps.

still better then reach, at the moment, on level with H3…

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> > Anyway, I am merely saying what I see, and lately I have seen little to no constructive posts around here.
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> > Also, look at the bottom of my post (the first one)
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> You can always take a look at my post history. :slight_smile:
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> Jokes aside, I think you should make the point of discussion of this thread more evident as I was almost about to lock it before I read the small paragraph at the bottom. I can imagine many people missing that paragraph and thinking this is yet another thread discussing people’s attitudes and not the game.

You are one of the few, tsassi, who is able to hold civil discussion :stuck_out_tongue:

And I will edit it. Just give me about an hour, as I am currently doing housework.

OT: Thanks for all the postive and constructive input everyone! It’s good to see some well thought out posts here.

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> I know how you feel. I’ve literally started to become a lot more rude with people because they keep posting stupid threads thats clearly just hateful bashing because they got their -Yoink!- beat. The few constructive threads iv’e seen i have replied politely and posted counter arguments. But as you pointed out those die off quickly.

I agree with you, but only slightly. A lot of people do have valid concerns, and to assume the fact that they are voicing them is because they got beat is just rude.

Even if they’re bashing, they do have a point. How they go about voicing that point might not be great, but they do have a point.