Note this is just how I feel about the new and old things in Halo 4.
I’ll be adding things to the list as we get more information.
You can post how you feel, think things can be improved or if they should have changed at all.
Please no flamming, this is supposed to be a level-headed/composed thread. puts on flame-suit
Positives:
-Interesting story plot
-Amazing music
-Carbine/BR are back
-Requiem (Forerunner Shield world)
-New enemy
-Interaction with wildlife
-Amazing graphics
-Spartan OPS
-Join a session in progress
-Armor lock is gone
Neutral: (Need more info/stuck on opinion)
-Random weapon drops (Not needed do to JSiP, but understandable)
Negatives:
-Sangheili anatomy
-DMR returns
-No Sangheili in MM
-AA’s return
-Sprint is a permanent feature
-Spartan Points
-No FF
-“Perk System”
-Customizable weapons
-Instant Respawns (Press X)
-No Duel Wielding
-Infinity replaces MM (Should have been an extra game type like FF)
Sadly, in my opinion, 343i has not listened to the community.
If things continue as they are, I’ll only be buying Halo 4 for the sake of my collection.
I’ll play through once or twice then I’ll be done.
EDIT: I removed ADS/Iron Sights from the list because it’s confirmed, that it won’t be in game. Still the fact that they even considered it… shrugs
when were iron sites mentioned?
How is the DMR returning a BAD thing?
I think the more weapons we have the better. Just don’t force us to play games where anyone can spawn with a BR or DMR.
Iron sights is just not Halo, but I do not believe 343i actually put in iron sights.
I want my Sangheilli back. And not these jackal/prophet/elite mutant things.
I literally read all the negatives as positives (except for the random weapon spawns, I will have to wait and play the game on that one). I guess we will have to agree to disagree.
I didn’t see iron sights or ads mentioned in the leak at all. Ive seen a couple threads where people mention it. Where is the ads info coming from, because I haven’t seen a 343i confirmation of of iron sights anywhere.
> when were iron sites mentioned?
> How is the DMR returning a BAD thing?
This shows that 343i is considering it. 
And as for the DMR, I think it’s a bad choice to mix it with the BR.
The DMR was mainly used by UNSC’s Army not the Navy.
Not saying I don’t like the DMR, I just prefer the BR.
If anything they could take the BR back to its original design. (3 shot burst, 1 shot zoomed)
My fixed version, give reasons for anything you disagree with.
Positives:
-Interesting story plot
-Amazing music
-Carbine/BR are back
-Interaction with wildlife
-Amazing graphics
-Spartan OPS
-Join a game in progress
-Armor lock is gone
-DMR returns
-No Duel Wielding (makes half the weapons useless, one of the worst ideas Halo has had)
-No Sangheili in MM (more even games, if they were included the balance issue would be worse than anything else)
-Infinity replaces MM (affects nothing other than adding story)
Negatives:
-No FF
-Customizable weapons (they said that isn’t happening)
-Random weapon drops (not random)
-Instant Respawns (not in everything, not bad at all)
> > when were iron sites mentioned?
> > How is the DMR returning a BAD thing?
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> This shows that 343i is considering it.
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> And as for the DMR, I think it’s a bad choice to mix it with the BR.
> The DMR was mainly used by UNSC’s Army not the Navy.
> Not saying I don’t like the DMR, I just prefer the BR.
> If anything they could take the BR back to its original design. (3 shot burst, 1 shot zoomed)
o come on, they already showed that little footage and it plays exactly like halo. Seriously, of course they’ll “consider” every possible feature, but that doesn’t mean anything. If anything, iron sights have been debunked completely, thankfully.
> My fixed version, give reasons for anything you disagree with.
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> -DMR returns
> -No Duel Wielding (makes half the weapons useless, one of the worst ideas Halo has had)
> -No Sangheili in MM (more even games, if they were included the balance issue would be worse than anything else)
> -Infinity replaces MM (affects nothing other than adding story)
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> -Customizable weapons (they said that isn’t happening)
> -Random weapon drops (not random)
> -Instant Respawns (not in everything, not bad at all)
-Like I said before, I just don’t think they should have the DMR and the BR together, kinda like how you feel about Duel Wielding, it pointless. Though I understand your reasons and respect them.
-Still not sure why people think it’s so unbalanced, hitbox and posture can be modified. I think it adds more variety, ntm I’m an avid Sangheili fan.
-Instead of replacing MM, they could have added Infinity, just like like FF was. Just another side game but with story.
-If that’s confirmed then give me a link please, then I’ll remove it ok?
-???
-This removes the classic sound and 3-5 seconds. (I guess it’s not a huge deal but still. shrugs)
> Oh come on, they’ve already showed footage, and it plays exactly like Halo. Seriously, of course they’ll “consider” every possible feature, but that doesn’t mean anything. If anything, iron sights have been debunked completely so remove that from your list.
No from what we’ve seen it plays like Reach. Especially now that Sprint is permanent.
And the only reason I put that up there was because they considered it.
To show what 343i has thought about putting in Halo 4.
Some of those negatives aren’t that bad.
DMR is probably better than the BR. Infinity is the new name of MP with a little bit of story in it.
Those are just a couple
I just think that 343 need to understand that if we all wanted to play call of duty, we’d probably all go and spend our money on call of duty. I was looking to buy one shooter this year and one shooter only, and now I see this information that they’re taking what I felt was the best and most competitive game on the market, and just ruining it by trying to turn it into something it isn’t. I probably won’t even keep my xbox if Call of Duty is the best the Halo dev team wants to give us.
> > when were iron sites mentioned?
> > How is the DMR returning a BAD thing?
>
> This shows that 343i is considering it.
Something tells me they’re not… And I don’t see the DMR coming back a bad thing
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Hey Nightstalker, you forgot to mention that Firefight was removed. Now, I don’t really mind armor abilities, but I defiantly don’t like the fact that loadouts can be customized this time around.
Sprint being permanent makes me think that normal movement speed will be too slow to do anything efficiently.
I like the idea of Spartan Ops but I hope that the main campaign’s story doesn’t suffer because of it.
The biggest problems for me are:
- No playable Elites
- No Firefight
- Customizable Loadouts
If I remember correctly, Frank O’Connor clarified that weapon drops will be in pre determined spots and will have some sort of notification beforehand, so the game still focuses on map control, but won’t be focused on holding the same area for the entire match.
BR= close/mid to mid/long
DMR= mid to long
both have different parts in the sandbox
-Dual wielding makes any gun useless alone or overpowered with two.
-I don’t think elites in multiplayer is bad but it would have to be like Reach as they’re made to be asymmetrical.
-Infinity is match making… and custom games… It’s just their reason for the multiplayer. Nothing is changed other than adding the story. Infinity could be called Matchmaking plus story if they weren’t as creative.
-I’m pretty sure I remember then saying it isn’t in… won’t be able to find it. But they’ve definitely not mentioned anything like it being in the game
-They said the drops will be predictable, just not how.
-Ya I don’t want everything to have instant spawn but halo ce had instant spawn in many gametypes so I’m used to it.
> Something tells me they’re not… And I don’t see the DMR coming back a bad thing
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Thanks for the confirmation Blitze, I’ll remove it from the list. 
> BR= close/mid to mid/long
> DMR= mid to long
> both have different parts in the sandbox
>
> -Dual wielding makes any gun useless alone or overpowered with two.
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> -I don’t think elites in multiplayer is bad but it would have to be like Reach as they’re made to be asymmetrical.
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> -Infinity is match making… and custom games… It’s just their reason for the multiplayer. Nothing is changed other than adding the story. Infinity could be called Matchmaking plus story if they weren’t as creative.
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> -I’m pretty sure I remember them saying it isn’t in… won’t be able to find it. But they’ve definitely not mentioned anything like it being in the game.
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> -They said the drops will be predictable, just not how.
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> -Ya I don’t want everything to have instant spawn but halo ce had instant spawn in many gametypes so I’m used to it.
-If the BR can cover from close to long range, what’s the point of having the DMR, which only cover half that?
-Agreed, but I do like to have the option, if anything make an option in customs/forge. It’s great for Machinimas.
-I was fine with the way they were in Halo 2/3 (aside from the hitboxes/posture)
-Not saying I don’t like/want the extra story, but it should have been an extra feature like FF/Forge/Custom.
-Just let me know if you find the info ok?
-Yeah, the only thing is, weapon spawn camping shouldn’t be to much of a problem now that we have JSiP.
-I don’t either, and I don’t remember that… O_o