Constructive Complaining [VS] Crying

Everyone who checks this Forum may think Halo 4 is a bad game. So many ppl cry over so many things … well exactly everyone cry over the same things but have other directions how to solute the alleged problem.

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You know: there was a high chance after Halo Reach that we will hear nothing more over the Master Chief. The Web was full of ppl who laughed if someone said: Halo 4. And then: we have had the end of the Halo Franchise.

But now Halo 4 is out, and it is good. How often has an other game studio managed to do so well - and not to break the central aspects of a game? And on top of that 343I is a total new founded studio.
The chances were realy big that Halo 4 would be bad: to little new things, or to much new things… a bad MC character, a cliffhanger ending, stupid storyline, weak locations, bad gameplay etc. etc. pp. > But nothig of that happend.
343I worked hard and managed it - against all difficultys - to create a good game (just check Halo 4 reviews in the web).

I think Halo 4 is good, and Halo 5 will be even better - in Campaign and Multiplayer aspects.

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But if someone checks this forum he might think: Halo 4 total failed. And the argument: “Halo 4 is a game for the majority…” - well sure. Why not? Cuz Halo 4 is made of the oppinion of many ppl. Hurray! All other Studios don’t even listen …
I guess: ppl including the mainguys of 343i might get the feeling that they did bad.
But:
I also think the ppl who are complaining over things might be right, too.
So: we also should keep in mind: these ppl complain over things because they have hope to be noticed.

So please: if you want to talk over Halo 4: don’t just cry and say everything is ****** and everything goes straight down to hell; be constructive and respectful. 343I-Guys are only humans too - not machines.

There are hundreds of constructive threads on this forums, the most prominent may be this one: https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst127421_Custom-game-options-are-unacceptable--343.aspx

Problem is that 343 just keeps ignoring us.

> There are hundreds of constructive threads on this forums, the most prominent may be this one: https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst127421_Custom-game-options-are-unacceptable--343.aspx
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> Problem is that 343 just keeps ignoring us.

The last bulletin is hopefully the beginning of change. For instance, the 343 Admin account has been very active in the Halo Waypoint forum sorting out problems and bs angel has been active in the News forum discussing the bulletin etc.

> There are hundreds of constructive threads on this forums, the most prominent may be this one: https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst127421_Custom-game-options-are-unacceptable--343.aspx
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> Problem is that 343 just keeps ignoring us.

I know … but also hundrets of destructive threads, too. … That annoys me.

> Problem is that 343 just keeps ignoring us.

Absence of evidence doesn’t prove a negative.

The very first line of that linked thread is ‘OFFICIAL RESPONSE FROM BS_ANGEL’.

> There are hundreds of constructive threads on this forums, the most prominent may be this one: https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst127421_Custom-game-options-are-unacceptable--343.aspx
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> Problem is that 343 just keeps ignoring us.

Because Frankie admitting they made a lot of mistakes and saying that they will try to fix it sounds like they are ignoring us. So does adding Grifball and Team Doubles. Yep, 343 is totally ignoring us.

> > There are hundreds of constructive threads on this forums, the most prominent may be this one: https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst127421_Custom-game-options-are-unacceptable--343.aspx
> >
> > Problem is that 343 just keeps ignoring us.
>
> I know … but also hundrets of destructive threads, too. … That annoys me.

If you feel confident enough in your own point of view than go in those threads and go against the complainers. But don’t create a complain topic about complainers.

> > There are hundreds of constructive threads on this forums, the most prominent may be this one: https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst127421_Custom-game-options-are-unacceptable--343.aspx
> >
> > Problem is that 343 just keeps ignoring us.
>
> Because Frankie admitting they made a lot of mistakes and saying that they will try to fix it sounds like they are ignoring us. So does adding Grifball and Team Doubles. Yep, 343 is totally ignoring us.

Nothing but appeasement. There is no excuse this wasn’t in the game in the first place (at least they didn’t tell us one).

> > > There are hundreds of constructive threads on this forums, the most prominent may be this one: https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst127421_Custom-game-options-are-unacceptable--343.aspx
> > >
> > > Problem is that 343 just keeps ignoring us.
> >
> > Because Frankie admitting they made a lot of mistakes and saying that they will try to fix it sounds like they are ignoring us. So does adding Grifball and Team Doubles. Yep, 343 is totally ignoring us.
>
> Nothing but appeasement. There is no excuse this wasn’t in the game in the first place (at least they didn’t tell us one).
>
> http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46276543&postcount=18829

The excuse it that it was rushed because -Yoink!- wanted to make money off it for the holidays. -Yoink!- might as well be EA.

> > > There are hundreds of constructive threads on this forums, the most prominent may be this one: https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst127421_Custom-game-options-are-unacceptable--343.aspx
> > >
> > > Problem is that 343 just keeps ignoring us.
> >
> > I know … but also hundrets of destructive threads, too. … That annoys me.
>
> If you feel confident enough in your own point of view than go in those threads and go against the complainers. But don’t create a complain topic about complainers.

1st: I want to show my own oppinion of Halo 4 - it is not only a thread over crying guys.

2nd: It is already hard to keep my role as Mother Goose. Iam not Don Quixote with a bulldozer.

> > > > There are hundreds of constructive threads on this forums, the most prominent may be this one: https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst127421_Custom-game-options-are-unacceptable--343.aspx
> > > >
> > > > Problem is that 343 just keeps ignoring us.
> > >
> > > Because Frankie admitting they made a lot of mistakes and saying that they will try to fix it sounds like they are ignoring us. So does adding Grifball and Team Doubles. Yep, 343 is totally ignoring us.
> >
> > Nothing but appeasement. There is no excuse this wasn’t in the game in the first place (at least they didn’t tell us one).
> >
> > http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46276543&postcount=18829
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> The excuse it that it was rushed because -Yoink!- wanted to make money off it for the holidays. -Yoink!- might as well be EA.

Yes, but they should just tell us. Honesty could renew our confidence.

Crying about members of this forum is hardly constructive.

it’s not hard to make halo 4 just like halo 3 with new campaign, new graphics, new engine, same weapons maybe a couple of additions, no armor abilities, no load outs, with weapon locations and equipment on maps.

COD is classic and have dominated the market because it keeps the foundation right. They effectively bring the same game out that everyone loves and don’t change it all that much

343i just have no idea

People were looking for a Halo 3 type return not a Reach 2.0

all of 343i should be replaced

> Crying about members of this forum is hardly constructive.

Then: don’t cry about members of this forum … try constructive meta-communication. :stuck_out_tongue:

EDIT: … humans are so funny and cute sometimes … =p

> > > > > There are hundreds of constructive threads on this forums, the most prominent may be this one: https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst127421_Custom-game-options-are-unacceptable--343.aspx
> > > > >
> > > > > Problem is that 343 just keeps ignoring us.
> > > >
> > > > Because Frankie admitting they made a lot of mistakes and saying that they will try to fix it sounds like they are ignoring us. So does adding Grifball and Team Doubles. Yep, 343 is totally ignoring us.
> > >
> > > Nothing but appeasement. There is no excuse this wasn’t in the game in the first place (at least they didn’t tell us one).
> > >
> > > http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46276543&postcount=18829
> >
> > The excuse it that it was rushed because -Yoink!- wanted to make money off it for the holidays. -Yoink!- might as well be EA.
>
> Yes, but they should just tell us. Honesty could renew our confidence.

You saw how long it took them to admit some of the mistakes they made. Admitting that it was rushed will probably never happen.

> Then: don’t cry about members of this forum … try constructive meta-communication. :stuck_out_tongue:
>
> EDIT: … humans are so funny and cute sometimes … =p

What’s important is you find me cute.

> > > > There are hundreds of constructive threads on this forums, the most prominent may be this one: https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst127421_Custom-game-options-are-unacceptable--343.aspx
> > > >
> > > > Problem is that 343 just keeps ignoring us.
> > >
> > > I know … but also hundrets of destructive threads, too. … That annoys me.
> >
> > If you feel confident enough in your own point of view than go in those threads and go against the complainers. But don’t create a complain topic about complainers.
>
> 1st: I want to show my own oppinion of Halo 4 - it is not only a thread over crying guys.
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> 2nd: It is already hard to keep my role as Mother Goose. Iam not Don Quixote with a bulldozer.

  1. That’s good and I support you on that but you choose a rather strange topic titel for that. Combined with the focus on the last sentence of your OP it gives a different fibe.

  2. Really mother goose? Just by saying that you admit that you want to take on a superior role. Basically saying your opinion is better than the others.

they broke a lot of things, refused to admit it, then like a child being forced to say sorry mumbled a trial sorry billy. the points and truth usually brought out in well put together threads over balancing, how static spawns and scorestreaks are a hinderance are ignored as “whining”.

when then people bring up a “classics”(real halo) play type list… again the 343 defense team rolls in.