Conspiracy Time: Fire Team Zulu

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So I’m reading Halo: The Flood (Horrible book. Just skip the MC parts. Only redemption is just focusing on the marines) for the 6th time while playing Halo CE.

Well I’m doing “Assault on the control room” level and you run into Fire Team Zulu. Who is getting chased by a Banshee (only on heroic and legendary) And they call for Assistance. Then my mind starts to think, “Why are they here, this was pretty much going To be a stealth insertion breach into Covie territory and Cortana never said I was getting reinforcements” Cortana volunteers my help to them.

So I push on past the bridge, needing to get to Fire Team Zulu to pull their butts out of the fire. Get to the next room and notice the covies are not expecting trouble. Elites in calm patrol, a few grunts asleep. I clear it out and Kill a pair of hunters. (Playing solo legendary, why the hunters are there) and once it’s clear, I notice a pair of Fellow marines dead against the wall. Grabbing as much spare ammo and grenades off them that I could and paying my respects while grabbing thier dogtags, I begin to wonder "These troops were killed awhile ago, or the covies wouldn’t be so calm. Fire Team Zulu is not here for the control room at all, they are reinforcements for another operation all together.

Here I pause and read the book some more. The Fireteam part is kinda skimmed past, Chief links up with them kills wraith with warthog and then it swaps to the marines at Alpha base holding off a attack from Spec op elites and a covie assault. Not a mention of Major Silva sending forces to help chief. Hell they didnt even know where chief went after they found the map room. Then back to chief and he’s all alone again fighting to the control room. (I’m at work, so I don’t have my book on me or I would be more Procise with the info. This is all off the memory of my brain)

Well I’m back into the game and link up with fireteam Zulu and get in The warthog and clear the valley and push up and and encounter another squad With a tank and the Pelican that Fire team Zulu flew up in, crashed with the remaining crew and marines sprawl out the back. The banshee chasing it must have shot it down as the pelican was moving to reinforce this squad here. I hop in the tank and save the marines. then Cortana enlist their help to assault the control Room and they agree. meaning this squad thay Fireteam Zulu was trying to reinforce was not here for the control at all. Then why are they here.

So we move out. Clearing a path through the valley killing all In my path. As we Strom through, I still notice marine bodies In small pockets here and there they were caught in a last stand to the death. The largest group of about 3-5 bodies In the tunnel with the sealed doors and bridge. Whatever this mission these Marines were doing here. it was big. Needing all these men and armor support. Which From reading the book. The marines only recovered so much, making a tank a very high value item they wouldn’t waste for no good reason like this.

We push on. The we run into a squad of marines, surrounded in a really small Valley With turrets and Covies kill teams and hunters everywhere. Then Cortana pipes in saying that she was surprised that there was any marine resistance left in this area. And I wonder, "Is she commenting that cause of all the dead marines we ran into on the way here, or cause she know why the marines are here and figured they all would be dead by now cause of the the heavie Covie resistance we ran into on the way here, that whatever operation they were on, she figured they failed and all got killed.

Well Anyways, I go and rescue them and we all push onto the next valley and clear it. There Cortana tells the Marines to wait there and that she sent out a pick up Beacon for them. So whatever reason they were here for. They must’ve been calling it or succeed and Cortana is calling in Evac for them. Either way, I don’t know why, sure could use thier help to assault the control room if it was thier objective, which it clearly was not.

We push on, still running into other groups of Dead marines here and there. All the way to the foot of the control room and even that tower before the final door.

So the conspiracy theory I want to bring up. What was Fire Team Zulu and the marines in that Valley really up there. They were not sent there by Alpha base. And their main objective was clearly unknown. Yet at one part. Cortana knew why they were there. Yet why did see seem surprised what the marines were there in the 1st place when we ran into fire team Zulu when their pelican in the 1st place.

We’re they their own element. A large group of marines, who cut off from Alpha base and not know of their location, Created their own HQ, doing raids on covies where ever they could. Which is odd for they had pelican support, so the pelican could’ve easily been able to find a transmission or two from alpha base pelicans. Or we’re they working on a secret mission for that oni agent that we know was in the Pillar of Autumn. Or was it something else entirely. I leave This to you. I just laid down the clues that I ran into. It is to the rest of us to discover the truth to this mystery.

#huntthetruth

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Not sure, might be something to ask in the next QnA.

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What if it was Captain Key who sent them there to look for a weapons cache. Ya’ know what he was looking for in the level 343 Guilty Spark.

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Possible theory. One of my friends he thinks. they detect a energy sorce from those energy pylons and we’re sent to investigate. All I know that the marines were willing to invest a tank to whatever reason they were there

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> Not sure, might be something to ask in the next QnA.

I was actually. But i thought I would do something fun 1st you know

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Seeing as how there was a large number of Covenant in that area I wouldn’t be surprised if they sent a few squads to investigate or just to go attack them. (I haven’t read the flood) But it could easily be that those Covenant forces posed an immediate threat to their home base. It did look like a staging area from first glance, banshees, wraiths, ghosts, tons of Covenant forces.

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This is a very interesting thing you’ve picked up on. The idea about the Marines investigating the energy pylons does seem like a possible idea but why would they send a huge detachment of Marines to investigate? Wouldn’t a smaller science team attached to a squad of Marines be sufficient? And I think that going to attack a large group of covies would be a waste of limited recourses, the Marines were nowhere close to being properly outfitted to pose a threat to the covies there.

What if they were moving to a more secure area aside from Alpha Base (Never read Halo: The Flood) instead? Couldn’t Fire Team Zulu be some sort of QRF for the encircled Marines in the area? Could they have been pushed back all the way to Fire Team Zulu’s LZ? Maybe Fire Team Zulu was sent to investigate the disappearance of a Marine element in the area and after discovering they were wiped out, got evacuated by Cortana? Just my theory.

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Actually, I’d say that Halo: The Flood is a marked improvement over some of Dietz’s other works. It kept me entertained at the least, and provided a lot of context for things that I hadn’t even thought to ask when I first played the game.

As to Fireteam Zulu…it could be that “Fireteam Zulu” only refers to those Marines in the Pelican, which would mean that there were additional UNSC forces in the area–that’s according to the Wikis, anyway. At a guess, I think what happened was that John and Cortana took it into their heads to inflitrate the Control Room, but when Silva found out about it [probably from Foehammer], his attitude would have been “Nah. He won’t make it. Whilst John-117 is busy getting himself killed, I’ll send in the real soldiers to assault the control room.”

…there were an awful lot of dead Marines and supply caches scattered all over the place in Halo CE. It must have been absolute chaos. All those people–humans, and aliens, struggling to survive in a nightmare, and yet, despite all of their efforts, almost no-one made it out of there alive. :frowning: That’s one aspect of Halo that I think the book dealt with somewhat better than the game.

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> Actually, I’d say that Halo: The Flood is a marked improvement over some of Dietz’s other works. It kept me entertained at the least, and provided a lot of context for things that I hadn’t even thought to ask when I first played the game.
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> As to Fireteam Zulu…it could be that “Fireteam Zulu” only refers to those Marines in the Pelican, which would mean that there were additional UNSC forces in the area–that’s according to the Wikis, anyway. At a guess, I think what happened was that John and Cortana took it into their heads to inflitrate the Control Room, but when Silva found out about it [probably from Foehammer], his attitude would have been “Nah. He won’t make it. Whilst John-117 is busy getting himself killed, I’ll send in the real soldiers to assault the control room.”
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> …there were an awful lot of dead Marines and supply caches scattered all over the place in Halo CE. It must have been absolute chaos. All those people–humans, and aliens, struggling to survive in a nightmare, and yet, despite all of their efforts, almost no-one made it out of there alive. :frowning: That’s one aspect of Halo that I think the book dealt with somewhat better than the game.

Quite possible, but I just use Fireteam Zulu for its the 1st group you encounter and actually has a name. They were QRF for the squad with the tank. But Cortana sounded Surprised they were even there in the 1st place. And she pretty much drafted the squad once you clear the tank of all covie forces to assist the chief with Dialogue. Then once you push deeper, you find another full squad of marines deep in covie territory and was surprised they were even there also.

But the theory of yours is possible. I would love to Have 343 throw their magic into it xD

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but over all, i’m talking about ALL the marines there as a whole

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> but over all, i’m talking about ALL the marines there as a whole

Another possibility is that that some of those marines landed there in the escape pods and were stranded. So Zulu was sent in to rescue them.

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I just played AotCR and in the first cave area there’s a secret area with a couple dead marines and a dead hunter. Could easily be where the escape pod survivors were hold up. So there’s some evidence to back my theory.

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Why is it that only a few groups of Marines landed in that area? It seems like everyone else landed relatively close together. And isn’t the area with the Control Room inside the ring, under it’s surface? This would mean that the Marines would have had to make their way deep inside the ring and to the proximity of their bodies.

There is no way to tell the distance between locations in-game because of the lack of a map (Unless the distance is mentioned in a book). So the Cartographer/Control Room could be close to Alpha Base and the crash sites of the other escape pods. It seems odd that they didn’t have contact with the other UNSC forces until they were in the area of the Control Room, though.

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The level is not underground, just in a really deep chasm. If you look up you can see the sky still (and stars in Two Betrayals).

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> There is no way to tell the distance between locations in-game because of the lack of a map (Unless the distance is mentioned in a book). So the Cartographer/Control Room could be close to Alpha Base and the crash sites of the other escape pods. It seems odd that they didn’t have contact with the other UNSC forces until they were in the area of the Control Room, though.

Another possibility is that their pelican went down and they were stranded there? Would explain the scorpion, since Zulu’s pelican can’t carry a hog and a tank.

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> The level is not underground, just in a really deep chasm. If you look up you can see the sky still (and stars in Two Betrayals).

I guess that makes sense. Foehammer did go through some tunnels to get to the start of AotCR. It still seems a bit odd to me geographically,

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It’s important to note that Foehammer goes down in Silent Cartographer, but comes back up in AotCR. The point of the tunnels was to likely avoid covenant air patrol.

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Double post, sorry. Don’t know how that happened.

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The book is NOT horrible! I enjoyed it! :frowning: Well, I read it at age 12 or so, but I still liked it!

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> The book is NOT horrible! I enjoyed it! :frowning: Well, I read it at age 12 or so, but I still liked it!

lol, reread it again, the full thing, then Just skip the MC parts and reach just the parts with marines. And you’ll be like, “the Book is way better this way” lol