Confirmed: Microtransactions, Forge, Big levels

So I’ve been looking through the 343 company website (seperate to Halo Waypoint) and in particular the jobs listings and I’ve found a few nuggets that might provide a small glimpse of what they’re planning.

The elephant in the room:
Microtransactions will be back.

  • “Design and deliver a AAA player investment experience that focuses on our fans and their desire to express their passion for our franchise (including but not limited to microtransactions)” - "8+ years working in a design capacity on at least 2+ shipped AAA titles (or live services) with a focus on Social and Microtransaction systems as a Lead Designer or higher"Live services actually comes up a few time. For those unfamiliar, “Live services” is the new name for “Games As A Service”. It’s basically the whole thing of keeping you engaged and playing (and paying) as much as possible, for as long as possible. That’s why they want this:

  • A comprehensive understanding of player psychology and what drives them to return to an experience

  • Experience developing systems that engage players after they put down their controllerAnd why they list this:

  • Design and deliver a AAA social experience that fosters community - Design and deliver a AAA progression and engagement experience that ties into game features - Be able to adapt to the changing business and community needs that come along with being a live serviceA big part of that is constant and frequent updates/content drops, similar to Halo 5, which is what they’re asking for. And it’s also tying into another area:

Forge
“As a Lead Services Developer you will lead a small team to build services that manage and deliver both in-house curated content and user generated content. Keeping the game experience fresh and compelling by frequent delivery of new content is a key part of the next generation of Halo. Building a thriving community of content creators among our users and giving them the tools they need to build top quality content is a cornerstone of our future plans.”

There’s actually quite a strong focus on Forge and user generated content in the listings. They want upgrades, improved workflow, and they want Forge developers to “participate in Community-created content”. Also:

  • Experience with other UGC tools (Doom Snapmap, Far Cry Arcade, Little Big Planet, etc.)Campaign/Big Levels
    Quite a few of the current listings concern campaign. In particular, they want people with experience and interest in narrative focussed games.
    There also seems to be an emphasis on large worlds/levels in what they want people to have experience in:

  • Experience working closely with game design to build large worlds - World Design experience with current AAA RPGs or Action gamesThis could mean they’re going open world as many have assumed and the engine demo/website page seems to indicate, but it could also mean they simply want more large open levels, similar to “Halo” from the first game. People have been complaining about things seeming smaller in the more recent games.

The Cloud
They’re talking about that again.
“We are seeking talented, experienced developers with a variety of backgrounds who want to redefine the Halo experience through the application of modern cloud service technologies. The Halo Game Services team builds cloud services that drive many aspects of the game, including in-game economies and commerce, player statistics, user generated content, matchmaking, and game content management.”

Graphics
Obviously they’re looking for people with experience in developing high quality graphics. The part that will probably be of most interest to people is “If stunning 60 Hz 4k graphics gets you excited, this is the right job for you”.

PC
They’ve said future games will be on PC, and the listing show this plan hasn’t changed. They’re looking for people who have experience in anti-cheating measures for PC games.

Current and Next Gen
The listing talk about developing these things for current and future gen. Most of the talk about the new engine indicates that they’re looking long term with it, but these listings also confirm that they’re developing for current hardware as well.

Multiplayer
The current listings don’t have to many positions for the multiplayer teams, but there are enough mentions to show it’s still an important part, so there’s probably just no openings on the team at the moment.

That’s about it. I’m sure some people will overreact, some people will dismiss legitimate concerns and some people just won’t care.

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> So I’ve been looking through the 343 company website (seperate to Halo Waypoint) and in particular the jobs listings and I’ve found a few nuggets that might provide a small glimpse of what they’re planning.
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> The elephant in the room:
> Microtransactions will be back. - “Design and deliver a AAA player investment experience that focuses on our fans and their desire to express their passion for our franchise (including but not limited to microtransactions)” - “8+ years working in a design capacity on at least 2+ shipped AAA titles (or live services) with a focus on Social and Microtransaction systems as a Lead Designer or higher”

This is insane, 343i should right now be done with them, most of us hate them, I’m now worried about Infinite. One of the worst things about Halo 5 was micro-transactions, is killing my interest in H5. They need to stop, nothing good has ever come from this, pretty sure if Infinite is confirmed to have them then there will be backlash, just’s a fact.
I’m starting to wonder if 343i is actually listening, I know we’re getting an art style change and that’s great but it’s going to mean nothing if this game goes down the same route as Halo 5.

All of this doesn’t really sound like a bad thing, the exception maybe being microtransactions. I don’t hate microtransactions but I’m not a fan of the loot box like req packs and would like to see that changed.

It’s a given micros would be back, it’s just a matter of how. I’m personally hoping just cosmetics.

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> All of this doesn’t really sound like a bad thing, the exception maybe bring microtransactions. I don’t hate microtransactions but I’m not a fan of the loot box like req packs and would like to see that changed.

Sure most of it seemed fine except the micro-transactions, I just don’t find that acceptable, I straight up hate them…they are to blame for lack of customisation in modern Halo games, directly to blame for the pay to win model in H5, have yet to see a single game where micro-transactions helped any game ‘become’ better, every game I’ve played that had them I’d either tolerate them like in H5 or in some cases have little reason to want to keep playing like Gears 4, in some cases it straight up makes classic modes unplayable like in Gears 4 horde and most games that are new IP that introduce them…I just completely avoid because I have zero interest in opening another loot box because I’m sick of them and they are ruining my gaming experience in more ways than one.

Also I would think if EA can decide to remove them from their games then I would have found there was some hope for future Halo games but I’m at a point where I’m actually more worried about Halo Infinite than hyped because this news, the scary part is EA was supposed to voted one of the worst out there and yet there removing them so I’m baffled as to why 343i would even consider forcing these into their future games when a fair amount of us hate micro-transactions/loot box’s.

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> It’s a given micros would be back, it’s just a matter of how. I’m personally hoping just cosmetics.

probably just cosmetic if I had to guess especially after the battlefront 2 fisaco

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> Sure most of it seemed fine except the micro-transactions, I just don’t find that acceptable, I straight up hate them…they are to blame for lack of customisation in modern Halo games, directly to blame for the pay to win model in H5, have yet to see a single game where micro-transactions helped any game ‘become’ game, every game I’ve played that had them I’d either tolerate them like in H5 or in some cases have little reason to want to keep playing like Gears 4, in some cases it straight up makes classic modes unplayable like in Gears 4 horde and most games that are new IP that introduce them…I just completely avoid because I have zero interest in opening another loot box because I’m sick of them and they are ruining my gaming experience in more ways than one.
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> Also I would think if EA can decide to remove them from their games then I would have found there was some hope for future Halo games but I’m at a point where I’m actually more worried about Halo Infinite than hyped because this news, the scary part is EA was supposed to voted one of the worst out there and yet there removing them so I’m baffled as to why 343i would even consider forcing these into their future games when a fair amount of us hate micro-transactions/loot box’s.

yea very good point could just amount to nothing who knows

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> > It’s a given micros would be back, it’s just a matter of how. I’m personally hoping just cosmetics.
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> probably just cosmetic if I had to guess especially after the battlefront 2 fisaco

Even that’s a pain, I’d rather just earn them instead of having to open packs to grind to possible to have the chance to get them. Plus isn’t it illegal in some country’s to know sell loot box’s?, so I guess they might force it to be item purchases only.

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> Even that’s a pain, I’d rather just earn them instead of having to open packs to grind to possible to have the chance to get them. Plus isn’t it illegal in some country’s to know sell loot box’s?, so I guess they might force it to be item purchases only.

battlefield 5 wont have lootboxes same with anthem or it could be bought with in-game currency kinda like reach

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> > Even that’s a pain, I’d rather just earn them instead of having to open packs to grind to possible to have the chance to get them. Plus isn’t it illegal in some country’s to know sell loot box’s?, so I guess they might force it to be item purchases only.
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> battlefield 5 wont have lootboxes same with anthem or it could be bought with in-game currency kinda like reach

Yep I heard, I guess it be the in-game currency since Belgium made it illegal for loot box’s…it’s possible other country’s might continue banning them from games, oddly in the Uk they think gambling isn’t gambling so not a fan of my government, so if more governments continued then it might be more costly for them to try force loot box’s due to legal issues unless they chose to not release them in country’s with the loot box ban but laws change all the time so I suspect the cosmetics only purchases like you said.

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> > > Even that’s a pain, I’d rather just earn them instead of having to open packs to grind to possible to have the chance to get them. Plus isn’t it illegal in some country’s to know sell loot box’s?, so I guess they might force it to be item purchases only.
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> Yep I heard, I guess it be the in-game currency since Belgium made it illegal…it’s possible other country’s might continue banning them from games, oddly in the Uk they think gambling isn’t gambling so not a fan of my government, so if more governments continued then it might be more costly for them to try force loot box’s due to legal issues unless they chose to not release them in country’s with the loot box ban but laws change all the time so I suspect the cosmetics only purchases like you said.

yea probably in game currency like I mentioned before and if microtranscations are in its only gonna be cosmetic and I don’t think they would wanna take the chance and have a main halo game banned in certain countries due to microtrasnscations and lootboxes

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> > > > Even that’s a pain, I’d rather just earn them instead of having to open packs to grind to possible to have the chance to get them. Plus isn’t it illegal in some country’s to know sell loot box’s?, so I guess they might force it to be item purchases only.
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> > Yep I heard, I guess it be the in-game currency since Belgium made it illegal…it’s possible other country’s might continue banning them from games, oddly in the Uk they think gambling isn’t gambling so not a fan of my government, so if more governments continued then it might be more costly for them to try force loot box’s due to legal issues unless they chose to not release them in country’s with the loot box ban but laws change all the time so I suspect the cosmetics only purchases like you said.
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> yea probably in game currency like I mentioned before and if microtranscations are in its only gonna be cosmetic and I don’t think they would wanna take the chance and have a main halo game banned in certain countries due to microtrasnscations and lootboxes

Sure that makes sense, just hope the loot box trend never returns again because I’ve opened like 100+s of the things and I’m straight up tired of seeing them, if this wasn’t Halo…I’d have probably stopped playing altogether because that’s how tired I am of loot box’s and yet I’ve never wasted any real money on them.

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> > > > > Even that’s a pain, I’d rather just earn them instead of having to open packs to grind to possible to have the chance to get them. Plus isn’t it illegal in some country’s to know sell loot box’s?, so I guess they might force it to be item purchases only.
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> > > Yep I heard, I guess it be the in-game currency since Belgium made it illegal…it’s possible other country’s might continue banning them from games, oddly in the Uk they think gambling isn’t gambling so not a fan of my government, so if more governments continued then it might be more costly for them to try force loot box’s due to legal issues unless they chose to not release them in country’s with the loot box ban but laws change all the time so I suspect the cosmetics only purchases like you said.
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> > yea probably in game currency like I mentioned before and if microtranscations are in its only gonna be cosmetic and I don’t think they would wanna take the chance and have a main halo game banned in certain countries due to microtrasnscations and lootboxes
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> Sure that makes sense, just hope the loot box trend never returns again because I’ve opened like 100+s of the things and I’m straight up tired of seeing them, if this wasn’t Halo…I’d have probably stopped playing altogether because that’s how tired I am of loot box’s and yet I’ve never wasted any real money on them.

yea games seem to get rid of them slowly which shows me that infinite probably wont have them

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> > > > > > Even that’s a pain, I’d rather just earn them instead of having to open packs to grind to possible to have the chance to get them. Plus isn’t it illegal in some country’s to know sell loot box’s?, so I guess they might force it to be item purchases only.
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> > > > Yep I heard, I guess it be the in-game currency since Belgium made it illegal…it’s possible other country’s might continue banning them from games, oddly in the Uk they think gambling isn’t gambling so not a fan of my government, so if more governments continued then it might be more costly for them to try force loot box’s due to legal issues unless they chose to not release them in country’s with the loot box ban but laws change all the time so I suspect the cosmetics only purchases like you said.
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> > > yea probably in game currency like I mentioned before and if microtranscations are in its only gonna be cosmetic and I don’t think they would wanna take the chance and have a main halo game banned in certain countries due to microtrasnscations and lootboxes
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> > Sure that makes sense, just hope the loot box trend never returns again because I’ve opened like 100+s of the things and I’m straight up tired of seeing them, if this wasn’t Halo…I’d have probably stopped playing altogether because that’s how tired I am of loot box’s and yet I’ve never wasted any real money on them.
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> yea games seem to get rid of them slowly which shows me that infinite probably wont have them

Not sure what you mean, for me I’ve seem them in games I like but I feel like loot box’s and micro-transactions should only be in free games, I generally tolerate them in MMO’s too since games like STO went free to play but the grind to get anything in them is a pain just like the unlocks for H5.

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> > > > yea probably in game currency like I mentioned before and if microtranscations are in its only gonna be cosmetic and I don’t think they would wanna take the chance and have a main halo game banned in certain countries due to microtrasnscations and lootboxes
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> > > Sure that makes sense, just hope the loot box trend never returns again because I’ve opened like 100+s of the things and I’m straight up tired of seeing them, if this wasn’t Halo…I’d have probably stopped playing altogether because that’s how tired I am of loot box’s and yet I’ve never wasted any real money on them.
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> Not sure what you mean, for me I’ve seem them in games I like but I feel like loot box’s and micro-transactions should only be in free games, I generally tolerate them in MMO’s too since games like STO went free to play but the grind to get anything in them is a pain just like the unlocks for H5.

I mean by lootboxes since 2 of EA’s big upcoming games wont have them I have a feeling halo infinite wont either if infinite has microtranscations I just don’t buy them didn’t with 5 or any games I have that has them

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> > > > Sure that makes sense, just hope the loot box trend never returns again because I’ve opened like 100+s of the things and I’m straight up tired of seeing them, if this wasn’t Halo…I’d have probably stopped playing altogether because that’s how tired I am of loot box’s and yet I’ve never wasted any real money on them.
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> I mean by lootboxes since 2 of EA’s big upcoming games wont have them I have a feeling halo infinite wont either if infinite has microtranscations I just don’t buy them didn’t with 5 or any games I have that has them

Sure I sort of get it, I don’t have any plans to buy their loot box’s either, I’d rather just stick to releasing the full game and let me unlock everything without over the top grinds, I didn’t even mind when they released the voice pack for H5 because I know it was basically dlc, not another endless ‘pack’ that gives me the same content over, over.

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> > > > > Sure that makes sense, just hope the loot box trend never returns again because I’ve opened like 100+s of the things and I’m straight up tired of seeing them, if this wasn’t Halo…I’d have probably stopped playing altogether because that’s how tired I am of loot box’s and yet I’ve never wasted any real money on them.
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> Sure I sort of get it, I don’t have any plans to buy their loot box’s either, I’d rather just stick to releasing the full game and let me unlock everything without over the top grinds, I didn’t even mind when they released the voice pack for H5 because I know it was basically dlc, not another endless ‘pack’ that gives me the same content over, over.

right I know they got backlash over halo 5 having microtranscations they cant afford to piss people off anymore than they have in the past that’s why im thinking no lootboxes

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> > > > > > > > > > Even that’s a pain, I’d rather just earn them instead of having to open packs to grind to possible to have the chance to get them. Plus isn’t it illegal in some country’s to know sell loot box’s?, so I guess they might force it to be item purchases only.
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> > > > > > > > > battlefield 5 wont have lootboxes same with anthem or it could be bought with in-game currency kinda like reach
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> > > > > > > > Yep I heard, I guess it be the in-game currency since Belgium made it illegal…it’s possible other country’s might continue banning them from games, oddly in the Uk they think gambling isn’t gambling so not a fan of my government, so if more governments continued then it might be more costly for them to try force loot box’s due to legal issues unless they chose to not release them in country’s with the loot box ban but laws change all the time so I suspect the cosmetics only purchases like you said.
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> > > > > > > yea probably in game currency like I mentioned before and if microtranscations are in its only gonna be cosmetic and I don’t think they would wanna take the chance and have a main halo game banned in certain countries due to microtrasnscations and lootboxes
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> > > > > > Sure that makes sense, just hope the loot box trend never returns again because I’ve opened like 100+s of the things and I’m straight up tired of seeing them, if this wasn’t Halo…I’d have probably stopped playing altogether because that’s how tired I am of loot box’s and yet I’ve never wasted any real money on them.
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> > > > > yea games seem to get rid of them slowly which shows me that infinite probably wont have them
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> > > > Not sure what you mean, for me I’ve seem them in games I like but I feel like loot box’s and micro-transactions should only be in free games, I generally tolerate them in MMO’s too since games like STO went free to play but the grind to get anything in them is a pain just like the unlocks for H5.
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> > > I mean by lootboxes since 2 of EA’s big upcoming games wont have them I have a feeling halo infinite wont either if infinite has microtranscations I just don’t buy them didn’t with 5 or any games I have that has them
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> > Sure I sort of get it, I don’t have any plans to buy their loot box’s either, I’d rather just stick to releasing the full game and let me unlock everything without over the top grinds, I didn’t even mind when they released the voice pack for H5 because I know it was basically dlc, not another endless ‘pack’ that gives me the same content over, over.
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> right I know they got backlash over halo 5 having microtranscations they cant afford to piss people off anymore than they have in the past that’s why im thinking no lootboxes

Sure that’s true but they got complaints about them in Halo Wars 2, Halo 5 and Spartan Assault and yet they kept trying to force micro-transactions on us.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > It’s a given micros would be back, it’s just a matter of how. I’m personally hoping just cosmetics.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > probably just cosmetic if I had to guess especially after the battlefront 2 fisaco
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> > > > > > > > > > > Even that’s a pain, I’d rather just earn them instead of having to open packs to grind to possible to have the chance to get them. Plus isn’t it illegal in some country’s to know sell loot box’s?, so I guess they might force it to be item purchases only.
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> > > > > > > > > > battlefield 5 wont have lootboxes same with anthem or it could be bought with in-game currency kinda like reach
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> > > > > > > > > Yep I heard, I guess it be the in-game currency since Belgium made it illegal…it’s possible other country’s might continue banning them from games, oddly in the Uk they think gambling isn’t gambling so not a fan of my government, so if more governments continued then it might be more costly for them to try force loot box’s due to legal issues unless they chose to not release them in country’s with the loot box ban but laws change all the time so I suspect the cosmetics only purchases like you said.
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> > > > > > > > yea probably in game currency like I mentioned before and if microtranscations are in its only gonna be cosmetic and I don’t think they would wanna take the chance and have a main halo game banned in certain countries due to microtrasnscations and lootboxes
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> > > > > > > Sure that makes sense, just hope the loot box trend never returns again because I’ve opened like 100+s of the things and I’m straight up tired of seeing them, if this wasn’t Halo…I’d have probably stopped playing altogether because that’s how tired I am of loot box’s and yet I’ve never wasted any real money on them.
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> > > > > > yea games seem to get rid of them slowly which shows me that infinite probably wont have them
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> > > > > Not sure what you mean, for me I’ve seem them in games I like but I feel like loot box’s and micro-transactions should only be in free games, I generally tolerate them in MMO’s too since games like STO went free to play but the grind to get anything in them is a pain just like the unlocks for H5.
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> > > > I mean by lootboxes since 2 of EA’s big upcoming games wont have them I have a feeling halo infinite wont either if infinite has microtranscations I just don’t buy them didn’t with 5 or any games I have that has them
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> > > Sure I sort of get it, I don’t have any plans to buy their loot box’s either, I’d rather just stick to releasing the full game and let me unlock everything without over the top grinds, I didn’t even mind when they released the voice pack for H5 because I know it was basically dlc, not another endless ‘pack’ that gives me the same content over, over.
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> > right I know they got backlash over halo 5 having microtranscations they cant afford to piss people off anymore than they have in the past that’s why im thinking no lootboxes
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> Sure that’s true but they got complaints about them in Halo Wars 2, Halo 5 and Spartan Assault and yet they kept trying to force micro-transactions on us.

exactly so I don’t think they will do it again they cant afford to

Oh -Yoink- microstransactions. Armor peices need to be linked to rank or completing a kind of feat like getting all skulls or beating it on legendary. Why is this so -Yoinking!- hard to understand ಠ_ಠ

EDIT: even the lead designer of halo CE multiplayer said that micro transactions doesn’t not belong in halo. https://youtu.be/OheqVrMGPv0