Conclusive Tests With The Boltshot (UPDATED)

So, I just did some tests in custom games, comparing the Boltshot with the Scattershot, Shotgun (range and damage) and Assault Rifle (spped to empty magazine). Here are the results for the max range at which damage occured, and how much damage that was.

Boltshot: (overcharged shot)
Max distance: 5 Forge Blocks (1x1 Size)
Damage: 2/3 of shields

A 6 blocks, no damage occurred.

Scattershot:
Max distance: 8 Forge Blocks (1x1 Size)
Damage: Varies. As low as 1/5 of shields, up to 2/3 of shields

At 9 blocks, no damage occurred. At 5 blocks, damage also varied, in the same proportions as at 8 blocks, though occasionally greater damage was done.

Shotgun:
Max Distance: 7 Forge Blocks (1x1 Size)
Damage: Minimal. 1/10 of shields.

At 8 blocks, no damage was done. At 6, damage varied, from ~2/3 of shields, down to 1/4 of shields.

The next test wast to test whether a Boltshot could empty it’s magazine faster than an assualt rifle, which I saw claimed yesterday. Using 2 controllers, I fired both at the same time, firing the boltshot as fast as possible. The Assault Rifle emptied it’s magazine faster by about 1-2 seconds, then started reloading. The Boltshot started reloading after the Assualt Rifle, but managed to finish reloading about .5 seconds after the assualt rifle did, reflecting it’s faster reload time. The boltshot obviously fires slower in this case, and hence, fires slower than the Magnum as well. If the boltshot reload glitch was employed, the speed at which it fires would obviously increase, but I couldn’t get the glitch to work consistently, and more often than not, was slowed down by it.

In conclusion, the Boltshot is not as powerful as people like to say it is. By any means. People can now stop saying that the Boltshot has greater range than the Scattershot, it doesn’t. Also, the shotgun sucks compared to the Scattershot.

UPDATE:
I went and did some more tests as suggested. I tested both the Boltshot at max range (5 forge blocks) and half of max range (2.5 forge blocks), and then the Scattershot at max range (8 forge blocks) and half max range (4 forge blocks). 30 trials of each weapon, damage was averaged to find a mean damage score.

The Boltshot at max range averaged at 61% of shields damaged (ie it took off 61% of the other players shields). At half of max range, it always resulted in a kill.

The Scattershot at max range averaged at 17.6% of shields damaged. At half of max range, the average damage was 60%. Though it’s important to note that at this range, I did get one kill, so the scattershot is still quite strong.

In conclusion, based on this further tessting, I still don’t see the Boltshot as OP. It kills at it’s intended range, and damages at the extremities of it’s range. The Scattershot, which can fire faster it should be noted, does less damage than the Boltshot at it’s max range, but, when both are placed at a similar range, does similar damage. In close range, as I saw from earlier tests, the Scattershot almost always kills.

I’m done with testing, and I’m not sure what else to actually test. If someone else wants to try though, I’ll gladly include their results in the OP.

Some other interesting things: Inconsistently, I could get the Scattershot to do very minimal damage at 9 Blocks. This was very inconsistent though, but, it seemed that it was more likely to damage at this distance immediately after reloading a round. As well, the Boltshot, if fired normally (not charge) is unable to get a kill with a single magazine. The 10 shots are only enough to just break the shields.

Dat blue…

What did I tell you about that blue dude. Stop. Using. Dark. Colors. On. Dark. Backgrounds.

Thanks for putting the qq to rest OP!

> What did I tell you about that blue dude. Stop. Using. Dark. Colors. On. Dark. Backgrounds.

I find the colour scheme on this website difficult to read and hard on the eyes. Or at least I used to. So I used blue to make it easier to read. Now I still use blue, because it’s my signature.

> So, I just did some tests in custom games, comparing the Boltshot with the Scattershot, Shotgun (range and damage) and Assault Rifle (spped to empty magazine). Here are the results for the max range at which damage occured, and how much damage that was.
>
> Boltshot: (overcharged shot)
> Max distance: 5 Forge Blocks (1x1 Size)
> Damage: 2/3 of shields
>
> A 6 blocks, no damage occurred.
>
> Scattershot:
> Max distance: 8 Forge Blocks (1x1 Size)
> Damage: Varies. As low as 1/5 of shields, up to 2/3 of shields
>
> At 9 blocks, no damage occurred. At 5 blocks, damage also varied, in the same proportions as at 8 blocks, though occasionally greater damage was done.
>
> Shotgun:
> Max Distance: 7 Forge Blocks (1x1 Size)
> Damage: Minimal. 1/10 of shields.
>
> At 8 blocks, no damage was done. At 6, damage varied, from ~2/3 of shields, down to 1/4 of shields.
>
> The next test wast to test whether a Boltshot could empty it’s magazine faster than an assualt rifle, which I saw claimed yesterday. Using 2 controllers, I fired both at the same time, firing the boltshot as fast as possible. The Assault Rifle emptied it’s magazine faster by about 1-2 seconds, then started reloading. The Boltshot started reloading after the Assualt Rifle, but managed to finish reloading about .5 seconds after the assualt rifle did, reflecting it’s faster reload time. The boltshot obviously fires slower in this case, and hence, fires slower than the Magnum as well. If the boltshot reload glitch was employed, the speed at which it fires would obviously increase, but I couldn’t get the glitch to work consistently, and more often than not, was slowed down by it.
>
> In conclusion, the Boltshot is not as powerful as people like to say it is. By any means. People can now stop saying that the Boltshot has greater range than the Scattershot, it doesn’t. Also, the shotgun sucks compared to the Scattershot.

I love you. You are my hero. THANK YOU. I can guarantee that all the little kids on these forums will view this, and shut up. Lmao

> > What did I tell you about that blue dude. Stop. Using. Dark. Colors. On. Dark. Backgrounds.
>
> I find the colour scheme on this website difficult to read and hard on the eyes. Or at least I used to. So I used blue to make it easier to read. Now I still use blue, because it’s my signature.

Using a colored font is not a signature move, it is a DB move. It automatically makes you looks like a self centered fool, and in most cases that is your right. But here, it makes your posts almost impossible to read without highlighting the text or getting closer to the monitor.

I thought it was just me, on my setup. So I asked a couple other people wandering around this god forsaken house and they all said the same thing.

Basically, it’s just rude to expect people to put up with it.

> > > What did I tell you about that blue dude. Stop. Using. Dark. Colors. On. Dark. Backgrounds.
> >
> > I find the colour scheme on this website difficult to read and hard on the eyes. Or at least I used to. So I used blue to make it easier to read. Now I still use blue, because it’s my signature.
>
> Using a colored font is not a signature move, it is a DB move. It automatically makes you looks like a self centered fool, and in most cases that is your right. But here, it makes your posts almost impossible to read without highlighting the text or getting closer to the monitor.
>
> I thought it was just me, on my setup. So I asked a couple other people wandering around this god forsaken house and they all said the same thing.
>
> Basically, it’s just rude to expect people to put up with it.

Wait. So, it’s bad for me to use a font colour that I find easier on the eyes, because it annoys someone else? But, I’m doing it for me. As well as using it as a signature.

Anyway, this is getting off topic. Can we please go back to discussing how the boltshot isn’t actually OP.

Nice find OP! I was also glad to see the range of the scattershot and shotgun since I had been confused earlier as to which was better. Good luck stopping boltshot complaints though.

Except you are posting and expecting people to converse with you about your topic, which you are intentionally making harder for the people you are trying to communicate with.

And there is no way that it is still easy on your eyes on this current forum skin, so now the only reason you have to do so is because you think it is some signature thing.

Just so you are aware, I have seen no less than two other tools using that same font color. Font colors are not signature items. They are intended to be used constructively in posts, in limited amounts, not for your whole post every single time.

Frankly, it is an extra step for you to do so, and extra work for everyone else. You should stop on the grounds that it literally does you zero good.

> Boltshot: (overcharged shot)
> Max distance: 5 Forge Blocks (1x1 Size)
> <mark>Damage: 2/3 of shields</mark>
>
> At 6 blocks, no damage occurred.
>
> Scattershot:
> Max distance: 8 Forge Blocks (1x1 Size)
> <mark>Damage: Varies. As low as 1/5 of shields, up to 2/3 of shields</mark>
>
> Shotgun:
> Max Distance: 7 Forge Blocks (1x1 Size)
> Damage: Minimal. 1/10 of shields.
>
> In conclusion, the Boltshot is not as powerful as people like to say it is. By any means. People can now stop saying that the Boltshot has greater range than the Scattershot, it doesn’t. Also, the shotgun sucks compared to the Scattershot.

I wasn’t a believer of it being overpowered or agreeing with any of these threads until noticing it this week. From personal experiences. The Boltshot seems way more effective than the Scattershot- and that ain’t fair. The distances I’ve seen myself and people 1-hit killed when faced with the Boltshot seems twice as long as any Scattershot hit- I think it’s because the Scattershot has such an unruly spread compared to the Boltshot within these 5 blocks. The Boltshot spread seems too accurate to me.

> Nice find OP! I was also glad to see the range of the scattershot and shotgun since I had been confused earlier as to which was better. Good luck stopping boltshot complaints though.

No worries! I was glad to help.

> > I wasn’t a believer of it being overpowered or agreeing with any of these threads until noticing it this week. From personal experiences. The Boltshot seems way more effective than the Scattershot- and that ain’t fair. The distances I’ve seen myself and people 1-hit killed when faced with the Boltshot seems twice as long as any Scattershot hit- I think it’s because the Scattershot has such an unruly spread compared to the Boltshot within these 5 blocks. The Boltshot spread seems too accurate to me.
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> Within those 5 blocks, the boltshot seemed to have strong accuracy when the reticule was red. Otherwise, it barely grazed shields. The Scattershot varied with it’s strength, but for the most part, it was stronger. I included the low damage section fo the range for the sake of accurate results, but honestly, the average damage would have been much higher. I can go back and calculate an average if you want though.
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> As for the Scattershots spread, it seems that, as long as the reticule for it is red, the spread wont have a huge effect on damage.

> > > What did I tell you about that blue dude. Stop. Using. Dark. Colors. On. Dark. Backgrounds.
> >
> > I find the colour scheme on this website difficult to read and hard on the eyes. Or at least I used to. So I used blue to make it easier to read. Now I still use blue, because it’s my signature.
>
> Using a colored font is not a signature move, it is a DB move. It automatically makes you looks like a self centered fool, and in most cases that is your right. But here, it makes your posts almost impossible to read without highlighting the text or getting closer to the monitor.
>
> I thought it was just me, on my setup. So I asked a couple other people wandering around this god forsaken house and they all said the same thing.
>
> Basically, it’s just rude to expect people to put up with it.

OP don’t worry about this jealous dude, he’s just mad because he probably was one of those guys who was screaming “the boltshot is overpowered! WAAAAAHHHH!!” Lol

Don’t worry about the color of your fonts, it’s fine and it’s not a problem at all. As a matter of fact I like it.

> OP don’t worry about this jealous dude, he’s just mad because he probably was one of those guys who was screaming “the boltshot is overpowered! WAAAAAHHHH!!” Lol
>
> Don’t worry about the color of your fonts, it’s fine and it’s not a problem at all. As a matter of fact I like it.

Haha thanks. Forget the haters and all that.

> Within those 5 blocks, the boltshot seemed to have strong accuracy when the reticule was red. Otherwise, it barely grazed shields. The Scattershot varied with it’s strength, but for the most part, it was stronger. I included the low damage section for the range for the sake of accurate results, but honestly, the average damage would have been much higher. I can go back and calculate an average if you want though.
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> As for the Scattershots spread, it seems that, as long as the reticule for it is red, the spread wont have a huge effect on damage.

That’s fine, I see your points about the damage and accuracy, I think the other major factor that makes me see the Boltshot as overly powerful is just the speed of projectiles. Anywhere out of melee range and further I’ve found it’s important to try and lead the Scattershot a little when hitting a strafing opponent since the projectiles need a fraction of additional time to travel, whilst the Shotgun and Boltshot seem to fly at what would be more realistic bullet speeds. This is why I don’t have an issue regarding the regular Shotgun really.

> OP don’t worry about this jealous dude, he’s just mad because he probably was one of those guys who was screaming “the boltshot is overpowered! WAAAAAHHHH!!” Lol
>
> Don’t worry about the color of your fonts, it’s fine and it’s not a problem at all. As a matter of fact I like it.

Know who you are talking about before you talk.

https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst151105_It-killed-me--Nerf-it--But-seriously.aspx

If you don’t understand why you are wrong, then you should go post in that thread too.

First and foremost…ENOUGH WITH THE FREAKING BLUE!!! It is extremely hard to read and is an eyesore.

Secondly, what is the max range for a Boltshot 1sk? What about the Scattershot? Shotgun? That is the important question. Not how far away can they do damage, but how far away do they have to be to get the 1sk.

I think being OP depends on who uses it and who he uses it on, like some people with sword/shotguns tend to underestimate it and get killed by someone with skill, while noobs who use it make easy targets for everyone not in pointblank range.

Thank you for this post!