For the first time ever, I actually filed a complaint on a player for cheating. However, the complaint filing system on Xbox Live doesn’t allow any details, so I’m not sure how it’s possible for my complaint to be reviewed.
In short, the player that I filed the complaint on was using network manipulation to obtain assassinations from impossible starting conditions. In every case, there would be an obvious teleportation glitch immediately prior to the sequence, followed by the assassination, followed by a second glitch immediately after the assassination was complete. The manipulation is obvious, and I have video proof (and the player in question was the host 3 games in a row . . . during which this happened at least 25 times). I saved 6 clips showing the manipulation (I could have saved 20 more, but after 6, you get the point). Unfortunately, I’m not sure how the complaint system will allow this evidence to be reviewed. The gamertag in question is brand-new - he’s accumulated under 2 hours of playing time at the time I am writing this.
I once played against a guy who had Protector Drift and T-rex emblem and only had less than 200 games. I filed a complaint but I don’t think anything was done about him.
> meh just file a report and move on.
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> not really anything else to do about it really.
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> make sure to avoid that player as well under the player review.
I did that as well. Too bad that others will have to suffer in the meantime, though.
Avoiding players does nothing. I did this sooooooo many times in Halo 3 (and a few times in Reach) just to match the same d-bag(s) a couple few games later, hell even days later. With the playlist population in Halo 4 I can only imagine it being even more useless.
> Avoiding players does nothing. I did this sooooooo many times in Halo 3 (and a few times in Reach) just to match the same d-bag(s) a couple few games later, hell even days later. With the playlist population in Halo 4 I can only imagine it being even more useless.
Same has happened to me in Halo Reach.
A few players (3 man “team”) had aim bots and were just slaughtering anyone whom came near to them (single head shots across the map using a DMR in hemorrhage). I filed a system cheating report with XBL, and then marked them as “do not play with” in the Player Review. Exited back to the lobby and picked a new BTB game. Two games later, they show up in the next BTB game. I checked the “Player Review” and yes, the “do not play with” is greyed out - so XBL knows I don’t want to play with them, but they are back again.
XBL is just terrible for this and Ms likely could care less. They have your money and if you want to play Xbox or Halo, it’s with them or nothing.
I’m going to go with the most common reply when this has been discussed in the past
“you’re terrible and you are just experiencing lag”
Seriously tho, this isn’t really a surprise considering not that long ago someone posted a thread on waypoint on this topic and in that thread he had a youtube link to a video of someone promoting their digital lag switch for halo 4.
This is really a lot more common then people like to think
This happens to me sometimes when I play with people I know from America, and I’m in Australia, so the connection is spotty. We’re having a little battle and then I punch them at like a 45 degree angle from the front and then they get beatdown, like a one-hit kill from behind, and it has the ninja medal.
However it doesn’t happen as often or consistently as the situation you were saying, so that is pretty suspicious.
Yah, I’ve told lots of people their suspected cheats were likely just lag. And I’ve experienced some pretty frustrating (and sometimes really strange) stuff due to lag. But in this case, the same sequence occurred every time (and twice in the 6 clips I made, it’s obvious when he’s setting up for it). In fact, when I was first making the clips, I realized when it was happening to other players besides me based on my character witnessing a couple of quick lag bumps. I’d back up a few seconds, go to his character, hit play, and voila! same sequence.
So this was most definitely deliberate. His gamertag is even a tongue-in-cheek reference to it.
And I’d never accuse anyone of cheating because they beat me. I suck balz and I know it. Just look at my stats. I’m quite used to getting destroyed. Compared to me, most players don’t need aimbots. They already are aimbots.
…and people say nobody uses lag switches… seriously, a friend of mine was ranting against me for ages because something akin to this happened (i’d try to assassinate somebody, it went into lag, boop, they’re assassinating me all of a sudden, thrice over in one game…)
all my friend would say is ‘nobody lag switches its a myth, you just lost cause you have a crappy connection’ which is pretty obviously not true if i start an assassination, and they get it on me instead… only lagged when i did them as well (this was back on halo: reach)
so yeh, this is a lot more common than most people think for sure… quite often it can even be just subtle, some ‘smart’ lag switchers (personally, to me, if you lag switch, you’re a moron regardless) will use it just to gain an upper hand, not to just outright win… some however (like this guy you’ve brought up maximus) are… less intelligent with their cheating…
> Avoiding players does nothing. I did this sooooooo many times in Halo 3 (and a few times in Reach) just to match the same d-bag(s) a couple few games later, hell even days later. With the playlist population in Halo 4 I can only imagine it being even more useless.
Well, I avoided him, and just got matched up with him again. And he was host - again. And he pulled the same crap - again. It was less effective this time, as the other players were better and able to kill him at a distance (and I avoided him, so he didn’t get me), but I did make more recordings of him getting other players.
Hi, Maximus IL. I’d like to make sure this gets investigated. Could you email the specifics to community[at]halowaypoint.com, please? Include the Gamertag and a link to the file, if possible. Thank you in advance.
Yep, I seem to find lag switchers all the time in Halo anymore. Usually its so obvious because the game magically starts lagging. Not like anything is done about it anymore, so it feels useless to file complaints.
> Hi, Maximus IL. I’d like to make sure this gets investigated. Could you email the specifics to community[at]halowaypoint.com, please? Include the Gamertag and a link to the file, if possible. Thank you in advance.
Thank you very much! First thing tomorrow morning I will do that.
> Hi, Maximus IL. I’d like to make sure this gets investigated. Could you email the specifics to community[at]halowaypoint.com, please? Include the Gamertag and a link to the file, if possible. Thank you in advance.
> > Hi, Maximus IL. I’d like to make sure this gets investigated. Could you email the specifics to community[at]halowaypoint.com, please? Include the Gamertag and a link to the file, if possible. Thank you in advance.
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> Thank you very much! First thing tomorrow morning I will do that.
Email sent. Again, thanks for taking a look at this.
> > Hi, Maximus IL. I’d like to make sure this gets investigated. Could you email the specifics to community[at]halowaypoint.com, please? Include the Gamertag and a link to the file, if possible. Thank you in advance.
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> If you’ve changed your reporting policy, please update your Halo 4 Matchmaking FAQ.
I think Microsoft overall have taken a closer approach with complaints, so I’m not surprised that they’re taking the same path here.
I recently filed a complain recently and got the wonderful message that a player had been taken action against. I’m all for this approach.
Afraid there’s nothing else to be done except for sleeping well at night knowing that there is a special place in hell reserved for Halo cheaters. It is monitored by the Guardians