I feel like it would be nice to have a section of the forum where the rules are a bit different. Trash talk, 1v1 challenges, and stat checking would all be allowed in this section. Many competitive players enjoy these aspects of forum life and it would be nice to have a place on the official Halo forums where they can post somewhat freely without moderation.
Similar to how some bulletin videos require a minimum age to watch, this section would also require a minimum age to enter as to not offend youngsters. There could be a disclaimer warning posters about the nature of this section stickied as well.
It bothers me that we are playing a violent video game but can only post about rainbows and puppies. I’m sure I’m not alone in my wishes, and I doubt it will happen, but the fact is that this forum alienates a portion of the population who enjoy “competitive talk” with other players.
No. No one is above the rules. We don’t need a hostile environment here, even if it is in a different section.
Edit: And you think people tell the truth when watching those videos? The only way it would work is if you sent proof of verification to them, and 343 doesn’t need to deal with that.
First of all, I don’t see how bashing other people because of stats or whatnot would bring anything good to the competitive side of the community. Secondly, if we let that section go unchecked, it would mean having to keep a closer eye on the other sections to ensure that said behavior does not spread outside of its intended area. The moderators are just like any other member; they have their own lives outside of Waypoint. That includes school, family, work, etc. Having to dedicate even more time than they already do to the forums would simply not be beneficial.
If that’s what you want in a forum experience, then there are plenty of other forums you can do just that. Just not here. Waypoint is a place for everyone, and anyone. As such, all we ask is that you respect each other.
> If that’s what you want in a forum experience, then there are plenty of other forums you can do just that. Just not here. Waypoint is a place for everyone, and anyone. As such, all we ask is that you respect each other.
But being respectful and tolerant of other’s opinions and beliefs isn’t fun!
Come on OP, yes we are playing a violent video game but I am pretty sure that Halo does not encourage you to be a jerk to your fellow man. Waypoint isn’t limited to only discussions about “rainbows and puppies” it just has a set of rules that requires everyone be respectful of each other. Is that really such a bad thing?
To all of the people saying “no.” - You wouldn’t be forced to visit said subforum…why does it matter to you if some people would like the occasionally talk about something other than sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows?
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> To all of the people saying “no.” - You wouldn’t be forced to visit said subforum…why does it matter to you if some people would like the occasionally talk about something other than sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows?
That isn’t really the issue, its that a subforum like that would not fit the philosophy of this website. At all.
At Ready Up Live our motto is “The friendliest community on the internet” which is similar to the attitude here at Waypoint: everyone gets along and is friendly and respectful to each other. Creating a place for people to be disrespectful and rude goes so far against that policy it would make literally no sense to have it. Why would 343 or Microsoft want to promote that kind of attitude in any way shape or form? It goes against not only everything 343 syands for, but the entire Xbox experience. If this was an acceptable form of interaction why would all of the report function on xbox live exist? You know, the ones that allow you to report players for being disrespectful or un-sportsman like to each other? They couldn’t possibly allow something like this, ever.
Also OP, the fact that you label this behaviour as “competitive” is one of the reasons that MLG players get such a bad reputation, you ar perpetrating a bad stereotype with posts like this.
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> > To all of the people saying “no.” - You wouldn’t be forced to visit said subforum…why does it matter to you if some people would like the occasionally talk about something other than sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows?
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> That isn’t really the issue, its that a subforum like that would not fit the philosophy of this website. At all.
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> At Ready Up Live our motto is “The friendliest community on the internet” which is similar to the attitude here at Waypoint: everyone gets along and is friendly and respectful to each other. Creating a place for people to be disrespectful and rude goes so far against that policy it would make literally no sense to have it. Why would 343 or Microsoft want to promote that kind of attitude in any way shape or form? It goes against not only everything 343 syands for, but the entire Xbox experience. If this was an acceptable form of interaction why would all of the report function on xbox live exist? You know, the ones that allow you to report players for being disrespectful or un-sportsman like to each other? They couldn’t possibly allow something like this, ever.
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> Also OP, the fact that you label this behaviour as “competitive” is one of the reasons that MLG players get such a bad reputation, you ar perpetrating a bad stereotype with posts like this.
> Co-signed.
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> To all of the people saying “no.” - You wouldn’t be forced to visit said subforum…why does it matter to you if some people would like the occasionally talk about something other than sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows?
I would be.
Look, I understand why you guys want something like that but this is not the place for it. By all means, issue 1v1’s and have competition, that’s fine. No one has ever told you you couldn’t.
Why is being respectful to your the other forum goers such a bad thing? I know it’s a different environment than you’re used to from other places on the internet but this is Waypoint’s house. And, as such, they get to make the rules. If you want to engage is trash talking and such, I know there are other communities that already exist that excel in that kind of culture. Go there and trash talk to your heart’s content but when it comes to Waypoint, keep it clean please.
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> To all of the people saying “no.” - You wouldn’t be forced to visit said subforum…why does it matter to you if some people would like the occasionally talk about something other than sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows?
Oh, I’ve got an idea! If you want a different forum, go to a different forum! Seriously. We do not need trash talking and stat flaming here. NO ONE is saying that everything has to be “sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows.” All we’re saying is that being an -Yoink- isn’t needed. Do you see real pros running around and insulting others “skills” and opinions? No. So why do we need it here?
It’s fun banter is all. People wouldn’t be forced to take part, with some exceptions of mods - and I certainly understand your concern, Doodle, but the point of relaxed moderation is so you wouldn’t have to worry about it or spend a lot of time there either.
I think you all are getting the wrong idea of the reason behind wanting something like this. It isn’t to be an “-Yoink-.” It just that you wouldn’t have to walk on eggshells with some slightly laxed guidelines. I understand the atmosphere you guys want to create around here, but sometimes you all take it a bit too far. I’ve been banned for saying “stats is a bad word around here” before, and I’ve seen people get edited and/or banned for something as little as bringing up amount of games played. To be honest, it’s gotten much better, but there are still questionably strict moderation practices in some areas.
Most people (myself include) wouldn’t want something like this just to be a d-bag, but rather to be able to say “Hey, don’t tell me how D playlist should operate when you’ve only played Y games in that playlist” without getting put in timeout for a week…
Also, OP, I agree with snickerdoodle that naming it “competitive” perpetuates a certain stereotype, and that you could definitely suggest a better name.
But you don’t have to “walk on eggshells” around here. Just follow the simple rules and you’ll be fine.
“Hey, don’t tell me how D playlist should operate when you’ve only played Y games in that playlist”
That, that is being a d-bag. Saying that your opinion is better than someone else’s? We’re all equals here. Halo isn’t made for you. It isn’t made for me. It’s made for all of us, so ALL of us matter.
> Most people (myself include) wouldn’t want something like this just to be a d-bag, but rather to be able to say “Hey, don’t tell me how D playlist should operate when you’ve only played Y games in that playlist” without getting put in timeout for a week…
I understand this, I really do. The problem is, it is always inevitable that it turns into something like, “I would be deeply appreciative if you would refrain from speaking. scrub blah blah blah.”
And while I can sorta see the validity in bringing up stats in SOME cases, there is absolutely no need for the name calling. And at what point do you draw the line? Because while it’s nice and all to say, “Must be at least X years to enter,” there is absolutely no way to monitor that. And you guys know as well as I do that people WILL go into that section and won’t like what they see.
And “relaxed moderation” is still moderation. IF there were to be something like this, the rules in place would still have to be enforced and the section would still have to be monitored. And believe me when I say that right now, resources are stretched a little thin.
> It’s fun banter is all. People wouldn’t be forced to take part, with some exceptions of mods - and I certainly understand your concern, Doodle, but the point of relaxed moderation is so you wouldn’t have to worry about it or spend a lot of time there either.
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> I think you all are getting the wrong idea of the reason behind wanting something like this. It isn’t to be an “-Yoink-.” It just that you wouldn’t have to walk on eggshells with some slightly laxed guidelines. I understand the atmosphere you guys want to create around here, but sometimes you all take it a bit too far. I’ve been banned for saying “stats is a bad word around here” before, and I’ve seen people get edited and/or banned for something as little as bringing up amount of games played. To be honest, it’s gotten much better, but there are still questionably strict moderation practices in some areas.
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> Most people (myself include) wouldn’t want something like this just to be a d-bag, but rather to be able to say “Hey, don’t tell me how D playlist should operate when you’ve only played Y games in that playlist” without getting put in timeout for a week…
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> Also, OP, I agree with snickerdoodle that naming it “competitive” perpetuates a certain stereotype, and that you could definitely suggest a better name.
The problem is, besides the fact that it would go against everything stands for, is that it would still require some form of moderation. So, what… we have two separate sets of rules dependent on what forum you’re in? That will get tricky and confusing real quick.
I think it just doesn’t fit in here. It’s very exclusive, and denotes a certain level of segregation. It only serves to divide and not unite. Separating that part of the community has no benefit. If anything, it’s like a separatist movement. I see no benefit. I understand how many have issues with the rules, as most people here are transplants from other communities. There is always a bit of culture shock. But if you’re going to make this place your home, you have to get accustomed to the rules and abide by them. I would do the same if I was in anybody else’s house or home.
> “Hey, don’t tell me how D playlist should operate when you’ve only played Y games in that playlist”
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> That, that is being a d-bag. Saying that your opinion is better than someone else’s?
Thats not being a d-bag…Would you rather take the advice on what scalpel to use during brain surgery from an actual doctor, or from some 15 year old who says “my opinion matters too!”
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Thank you for a quality explanation. I’ll stop now.
