Let me disable cross play and I’ve got 0 problem.
Sorry if no one thinks much of your opinion on what “works great”. You completely missed the point.
If you even the playing field in regards to the overall accuracy ability for the mid range BR fights then MNK wins… MNK has advantages left right and centre in every aspect outside of aim assist.
Strafing much faster toggling A and D and crouch all at the same time. This to me is the easiest way to see who is using mnk.
180 turns
ability to snap to and track strafing targets “natrually”
I’m sure there are many more.
This is where I’m saying “none of these arguments being made are doing that”. Prove to us that if you even the playing field in straight out accuracies that everything will be “even and fair”.
So this is just another attempt to present data to reach a conclusion we already know, and have known since MCC. What’s funny is that MCC was by far worse with regard to input balance, but the problem is still very apparent in Infinite.
But let’s be frank for a moment. You can not balance these inputs in a Halo game. No matter how you tweak it, people will be upset and alienated. The only solution in my mind is to give people the option for IBMM in EVERY playlist, casual or ranked.
It sucks, I know. 343 doesn’t want to do it, and we all know why, but we saw what happened with MCC when people discovered the input imbalances, it flat out died in the hardcore PC mouse user community. As a result the game became a backup/alternative for the Xbox version, rather than introducing Halo to a new community.
HOT TAKE INCOMING: Unless you’ve put significant time into Halo on both inputs, your opinion is invalid and should be discarded as such. If you can’t be bothered to at least try Halo on MKB for 30-40 games, then don’t even bother speaking on this issue. To be blunt, you’re ignorant. Especially if you’ve never even bothered to try MKB. Playing Halo without any form of aim assistance is something you cannot possibly understand until you’ve done so for yourself. So if this is you, please refrain from speaking on this issue, your input is neither desired or needed.
That being said, I actually don’t want them to screw around with how halo feels on controller. It wouldn’t be fair to them either. Needless to say, I’m strongly in favor of an option to separate the inputs.
Agreed. It really is the only option. I would be happy for 343 to investigate evening up the playing ground a little bit.
But to me there would have to be compromises on both sides. That means a more difficult to use sniper unscoped on mnk… weapon sway on long range weapons etc.
Controllers having less aim assist.
But the compromises would have to be made on both fronts…
But this won’t happen. Splitting is much easier.
I disagree with one thing though. Everyone has a favourite input. None have a non biased view.
No one without ALL the data 343 can mine has a rounded view on this subject.
The fact you think Controllers have aimbot is really cute.
But please, do go on about things you clearly know about. 
At this very moment I have a friend who usually plays MKB literally right behind me using controllers. I am watching the game aim for him. Shots he would have never believed he would hit on MKB are just snapping right to people’s heads. This is cheating. Controllers are cheating and MKB is an afterthought at best.
A man at full overshields to nothing in a single pistol magazine. Special enhanced movement because of the sticks. Mashing crouch and strafing is unreal. PEOPLE WHO HE DOESN’T EVEN KNOW ARE THERE AND THE CURSOR IS FOLLING THEM AUTOMATICALLY.
Truly an awful experience. Imagine thinking this is fair. Oh, but boo hoo you can’t turn around in close quarters, just spam me down with the pistol and let the aim assist nullify bloom for you.
lol… aim assist on pistol only goes to about 10m max (red redicule range). After that there is literally 0 aim assist. Aim assist does not “snap onto heads” aim assists helps with relative aim on strafing targets. It is trying to emulate the natural tracking ability given by a mouse. If it “snaps” anywhere it is mid body.
I don’t know why you people post this trash. If this was even remotely true then there wouldn’t be “skill brackets” all controller players would be diamond+. After all they all have aimbots right?"
Stop exaggerating if you want people to take your points seriously.
Read the stat block OP posted. There’s your evidence. Learn to read and maybe I’ll take your response seriously.
It’s happening right in front of my eyes, as I type.
oh come on man… go back to all caps and large sweeping statements.
I’m sorry you took personal offense to my sweeping statements that are correct. Hop on MKB since I can bet confidently that you use a controller and thus can’t even form an unbiased opinion on the subject.
Na mate… I want you to go back to it because you’re doing more good for controller players than any of us ever could.
Never used keyboard, opinion disregarded, bad player
Buddy. I have played mouse and keyboard my entire life. I got on with a controller today just to see what it’s like. trying to melee with a controller is disgraceful. My Accuracy however went up by 5%. I watched in baffled amazement as my aim tracked the enemy with no input from myself. The game just handed me headshots like they were candy. It enabled me to spray haplessly at the enemy and get a free kill.
The aim assist in this game is disgraceful. I’ve been experimenting with MnK and Controller with halo infinite this past week. I find with a controller i can win pistol duels almost every time, something that with MnK is almost sure to result in me dead or near dead (And MnK is my primary input for fps). If the aim assist in this game is low compared to to other games, those other games are an abomination.
Again hyperbole.
If this was actually true then there would be more than a 10% disparity at the top 100 players. I don’t really know why you are giving us bad melee. Why would that be any different across inputs.
Last time I played kbm was pubg… But my pc can’t get enough fps and the graphics cards are 2x the cost of a brand new xbox.
But no I didn’t find like going between controller and mnk was like turning an aimbot on.
Once the chip shortage calms down I’m keen to go back to doing more mnk though,
Do you know what a 10% disparity is?
Do you have any idea how severe of a disparity that is?
you expecting me to quantify beyond a figure for you?
No sir i don’t think YOU understand. a 10% disparity of shots is huge. Each shot is a chance for a kill. In this game where both starting weapons can headshot, If you fire a hundred shots, 10% is 10 extra shots, 10 more chances at a kill, at high level play that may very well be 10 additional kills. When a slayer match only runs to 50 kills, that can make or break a round. How many shots do you think you fire on average in a game?