Close this.

OP deleted, yes it’s been quoted, but im not coming back on here to try and explain to multiple people the same thing i’ve said to others. Tired of people not taking the time to actually comprehend what they are reading.

And yes, now im mad.

> All these people complaining about every single thing all the time always. The only thing that depresses me about Halo 4 is the fanbase. Sure there are issues, but hell, every Halo has had its different set of problems. Yes I agree that Halo 3 had the best multiplayer (although Halo 2 was amazing). But I can play this just fine. Medium sized maps? Sure bring em on. Small maps? Hey why not, I like close quarters. BTB maps? I’m always up for open areas. I roll with what I’m given. All these people are complaining about everything that is missing in the game, or that shouldn’t be there.
> They won’t be satisfied, they haven’t been yet (and people will say that it’s because 343 hasn’t done anything to make them satisfied yada yada, BS excuse). So as i go through the forums, shaking my head at all of the children, who can’t give a minuscule amount of respect to a group of hard-working people, I still find myself laughing, as it is all quite humorous.
>
> You don’t like Halo 4? Ok, move on, go play something else. Don’t spend countless hours whining in the forums and refusing to be reasonable. Yes, there are people who voice their complaints with maturity, and that is fine, that is dandy. But the people who rant about every little detail need to take a deep breath, and take a step back (yes people will say I’m ranting as well).
>
> But alas, it’s all in vain… Oh well. Looking forward to the Castle pack.
>
> And I you could at least say, “well at least 343 isn’t like EA” (that will be revised to, “like EA yet”

Remember Cave Johnson from Portal 2? He was in the state the Halo players are in:“When life gives you lemons, don’t make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don’t want your damn lemons, what the hell am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life’s manager! Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons! Do you know who I am? I’m the man who’s gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I’m gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!”
Most of it is nostalgia, you can’t blame them. The children are the ones with grammar errors, the ones who have nothing constructive to say, and the ones who thought 343 made this a money grab. If it was, there’s no point in adding playlists to Halo 4, just leave the game and ditch the community. But that’s exactly what they DIDN’T do. 343 worked hard, and yes, this game was pretty fun, I’ll be playing this for a whole year, but they still have MUCH to improve.

Oh hey, this thread again
I’m not even going to try and tell you not to make assumptions, or that we’re not all griping about stupid, trivial garbage in Matchmaking
I’m just going to say that if it didn’t work the last sixty or so times
Why make this thread again?

Just, Christ.

The forums are flooded with garbage, we get it.
That’s no excuse to flood it further with equally pointless and senseless garbage.

> most of it is nostalgia

GLAD TO SEE WE’RE NOT MAKING IGNORANT ASSUMPTIONS

A complaint complainer. How empathetic and original.

> Oh hey, this thread again
> I’m not even going to try and tell you not to make assumptions, or that we’re not all griping about stupid, trivial garbage in Matchmaking
> I’m just going to say that if it didn’t work the last sixty or so times
> Why make this thread again?
>
> Just, Christ.
>
> The forums are flooded with garbage, we get it.
> That’s no excuse to flood it further with equally pointless and senseless garbage.
>
>
>
> > most of it is nostalgia
>
> GLAD TO SEE WE’RE NOT MAKING IGNORANT ASSUMPTIONS

Oops.

> They won’t be satisfied

Except the Majestic maps wholly satisfied me. It’s just the exclusion of Lighting CTF this week and the Castle maps all being massive that ruined my day.

> Most of it is nostalgia

>Worthless Vehicles
>Playlists which only contain a few maps and gametypes.
>Missing playlists and gametypes.
>Missing weapons and vehicles which were actually unique.
>Imbalanced armor abilities.
>Imbalanced sandbox.
>Lack of Forge World.
>Poorly designed maps.

Totes nostalgia brah. Battle Rifle can die in a fire Lightrifle is better.

A lot of the complaints are legitimate. Stuff like Flinch, Perks and Personal Ordnance were never needed for Halo 4 to be great.

People can question the features 343 added to the game, there is nothing saying they can’t.

343 worked hard on this game, like every other developer. Do I think they did well? Yes. Do I think they are the right guys for the job? Yes. Do I think they need to improve? Yes.

This is their first game, we need to provide constructive criticism for them to help them build a better future for Halo Multiplayer and to do that, we need to question the features they added, otherwise they will never know.

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a good another drone OP, good thing you’re a conformist and you’re to much of a coward to voice your own opinion… so when the US falls into a dictatorship are you gonna say the same thing “well I don’t agree with the government but I’m not gonna say anything”

I’m tired of seeing people complaining about complainers. Get over it. People are understandably annoyed with the game, the “issues” are a little more extreme than that.

The game is severely broken, and people will complain until something is done about it.

> A complaint complainer. How empathetic and original.

Complaining about whiners actually.

>

A conformist? Jeesh guy, calm down.

Want me to list my complaints about Halo 4? I will. I could give you reasons for them as well.

I never said Halo 4 was perfect, I was talking about the people in the forums. As a long time Halo fan, i still have issues with Halo games. And believe me I dont try to hide that fact. But i dont go out of my way to let people know whats wrong with the game. Or whats good about it. I just want people to calm down. And try and see things from both sides. I guess its too much to ask.

> > A complaint complainer. How empathetic and original.
>
> Complaining about whiners actually.

Whine whiner just doesn’t roll off the tongue like complaint complainer.

> A conformist? Jeesh guy, calm down.
>
> Want me to list my complaints about Halo 4? I will. I could give you reasons for them as well.
>
> I never said Halo 4 was perfect, I was talking about the people in the forums. As a long time Halo fan, i still have issues with Halo games. And believe me I dont try to hide that fact. But i dont go out of my way to let people know whats wrong with the game. Or whats good about it. I just want people to calm down. And try and see things from both sides. I guess its too much to ask.

then stop being such a hypocrite and complain/criticize, because that’s what you are, you are complaining about people who are voicing their opinions about this game, when you have your own complaints/issues

> > > A complaint complainer. How empathetic and original.
> >
> > Complaining about whiners actually.
>
> Whine whiner just doesn’t roll off the tongue like complaint complainer.

I direct you to this video, which will hopefully explain to you what im trying to say. There IS a difference between whining and complaining.

Whining VS Complaining (Pach Attack)

> I just want people to calm down. And try and see things from both sides. I guess its too much to ask.

It’s not.
But you’re not even trying to look like you’re not soaked with bias juice.
If you have an issue with the trivial gripes, then respond to the individuals involved in the threads in question.
Don’t make another “guys stop being mean to halo 4” thread

> > A conformist? Jeesh guy, calm down.
> >
> > Want me to list my complaints about Halo 4? I will. I could give you reasons for them as well.
> >
> > I never said Halo 4 was perfect, I was talking about the people in the forums. As a long time Halo fan, i still have issues with Halo games. And believe me I dont try to hide that fact. But i dont go out of my way to let people know whats wrong with the game. Or whats good about it. I just want people to calm down. And try and see things from both sides. I guess its too much to ask.
>
> then stop being such a hypocrite and complain/criticize, because that’s what you are, you are complaining about people who are voicing their opinions about this game, when you have your own complaints/issues

Obviously you arent understanding what ive said. Or it wasnt clear enough. I dont like the people that “whine”, that -Yoink- about every little detail and say “343 is a terrible developer” and say what should be fixed.

The people that have a long list of their complaints, that give detailed reasons why they dont like the game is acceptable.

Whining- The vehicles in Halo 4 are terrible, its nothing like older Halo games, 343 doesnt know what they are doing, going back to playing (insert game here).

Complaining- 343 really messed up on the vehicles in Halo 4. They are weaker than in past games, and spawning with plasma pistols and plasma grenades renders them almost useless.

Another I think Halo 4 is perfect thread…

sigh really? Quit with this useless arguement. And you wonder why you people get labeled at Halo 4 fanboys or 343defense force. You fail to acknowledge or see what is wrong with this game, while the rest of us are trying to fix this game, you complain about us wanting change when you like it the way it is and don’t want any.

> Another I think Halo 4 is perfect thread…
>
> sigh really? Quit with this useless arguement. And you wonder why you people get labeled at Halo 4 fanboys or 343defense force. You fail to acknowledge or see what is wrong with this game, while the rest of us are trying to fix this game, you complain about us wanting change when you like it the way it is and don’t want any.

For -Yoinks!- sake people…

FINE.

Vehicles are useless, they are destroyed extremely fast and rendered useless due to plasma pistols and plasma grenades (see Warthog).

Red Xs being gone eliminate a stronger sense of team play. You are no longer able to shout out where the enemies are, as nobody knows where you died.

Static weapon spawns being taken out, ordnance put in. Luck comes into the mix, no longer fighting for an edge in the game, you fight hoping you get a decent weapon to take out your enemy. The forge maps with static weapons instantly feel more Halo.

Theres some faults in the game. You didnt even bother to read anything on this page before you typed that out. (Yes now im frustrated)

> All these people complaining about every single thing all the time always. The only thing that depresses me about Halo 4 is the fanbase.

Ah yes, the fanbase depressing you, I know where this is going.

> Sure there are issues, but hell, every Halo has had its different set of problems.

And Halo 4 actually keeps some of those problems and adds new ones.

> Yes I agree that Halo 3 had the best multiplayer (although Halo 2 was amazing). But I can play this just fine. Medium sized maps? Sure bring em on. Small maps? Hey why not, I like close quarters. BTB maps? I’m always up for open areas. I roll with what I’m given. <mark>All these people are complaining about everything that is missing in the game, or that shouldn’t be there.</mark>

Tell what is wrong with not complaining about downgraded custom game options, Forge and Theater. I’ll wait.

> They won’t be satisfied, they haven’t been yet (and people will say that it’s because 343 hasn’t done anything to make them satisfied yada yada, BS excuse).

Well when they have yet to offer solutions to custom game options, have said they will not fix Theater and offer a “classic playlist” that is barely that comes around, not everybody is going to be happy they finally offered smaller maps.

> So as i go through the forums, shaking my head at all of the children, who can’t give a minuscule amount of respect to a group of hard-working people, I still find myself laughing, as it is all quite humorous.

And I shake my head at the immaturity displayed by people who hate the people who offer complaints, even valid ones.

> You don’t like Halo 4? Ok, move on, go play something else. Don’t spend countless hours whining in the forums and refusing to be reasonable.

There are reasonable people, you just ignore them and call them children and nothing will likely change that.

> Yes, there are people who voice their complaints with maturity, and that is fine, that is dandy.

Not to you since you called them children.

> But the people who rant about every little detail need to take a deep breath, and take a step back (yes people will say I’m ranting as well).

Why is going over every detail a bad thing? Isn’t being very through a good thing in fixing a game?

> But alas, it’s all in vain… Oh well. Looking forward to the Castle pack.
>
> And I you could at least say, “well at least 343 isn’t like EA” (that will be revised to, “like EA yet”

Microsoft would be more like EA, but EA actually has integrity.