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Before you decide not to read this theres a TLDR at the bottom, so go read that if you dont care about the details.

“So do any of you mods care to explain…”
Why the hell dont you have the decency or common courtesy to at least explain why your locking these threads. Do you have to just shut ppl down and leave them in the dark?

Please before you lock this thread. Explain to us in our threads why they are being locked.
Not, “Oh this has been discussed so were locking it.” Or giving some useless information. Explain that there is a sticky, or a place to discuss their issue.
All your doing is driving away fans and showing the rest of us that you care even less than you already do about us.

Can we please get a sticky about the specialization codes issue, hopefully with updates when possible. Heck there might even already be one its just not obvious enough, and if it was, ppl would stop posting threads about the topic.

And please, again, explain why your gonna lock this thread and then give us a link or some sort of solution or alternative.
How would you feel if i slapped the lunch out of your hands back in elementary school every single day so you wouldnt eat it,but never told you the food was poisoned so i was doing you a favor… youll never know, youll simply grow up looking at me like a pathetic little person beneath you.

Hell i at least wish the ppl i hate luck in life, because even if im wrong or right, i feel that they need or even deserve some good luck or just a good gesture.

Heres the reason why i made this thread.
https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst164462_No-spec-codes.aspx

TLDR: Dont lock threads with explanations that dont explain a thing, at least show us a place to discuss or read up on the topic so we can be constructive, helpful, or hell get the damn picture and be more patient.

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I am enjoying just sitting back and watching as this whole fiasco unfolds. They failed to distribute the features promised to players and lied about why they weren’t distributed. Now they are scrambling to expunge any record of this on the forums. I assure you, this behavior has already irreparably tarnished the reputation of 343 within the video game community, and they are only making it worse.

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> I am enjoying just sitting back and watching as this whole fiasco unfolds. They failed to distribute the features promised to players and lied about why they weren’t distributed. Now they are scrambling to expunge any record of this on the forums. I assure you, this behavior has already irreparably tarnished the reputation of 343 within the video game community, and they are only making it worse.

I agree 100%.

I got my spec. code, I got the map pass, I play a couple of matches a day.

But I have still been watching all of this, because I still have concerns over the way 343 and -Yoink!- are handling this, and how they are treating the players and representing us in the public eye.

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There was a stickied thread about the missing codes a week ago. It was removed, i think it was getting around the 1100-1300 reply mark and getting ridiculous. I don’t think it should have been removed but that’s what happend.

I ended up getting my code after awhile but it sucks for those who didn’t get them still. ;/

However, what do you expect if the mods do tell you something? You are still going to have no code and the best you can expect is something along of the lines of stop spamming as that is against the rules.

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Well, any answer is better during a state of annoyance than no answer at all, but ones that don’t actually address the concern usually tend to make people more frustrated than if they had received no answer to begin with, lol.

I dunno; I’m in a chat with someone from Xbox customer support, but I’m basically being told that for some reason or another, 343 found me not qualified or missed my gamertag completely. Which, I find it hard to believe I wasn’t qualified when I live in Ohio, am 25 years old and played the game on its launch night.

So, yeah, at this point I’m just not expecting to ever receive my code. It’s an annoyance and I don’t think it’ll keep me from playing the game longterm or anything (no need for hyperbole or anything) but meh, I’ll have to deal even though I shouldn’t have to. I guess my friend is finally going to pass me in rank too (we’ve been neck and neck the whole of November, eh, rivalries aren’t worth much anyway, least of all when you’re as bad of a player as me).

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Every code that is going to be sent out, has been sent out. Period. If you didn’t get one, that’s just too bad at this point. You’ll have to wait to get one, you know…like anyone that doesn’t live in the US.

They locked the thread because there is nothing more to be discussed. It isn’t 343’s problem to begin with. They didn’t even have to make a thread. MICROSOFT is the one who did the promotion, not them.

They did everything they could, and gave the proper information to Microsoft. Codes were sent. Codes were sent again to everyone who opted in AND opted out of marketing emails. Codes were sent AGAIN through XBL.

It’s not like they are purposefully trying to keep you from accessing the specializations. The records they have (which are far more extensive than you could ever hope to realize) say that everyone who was eligible to receive a code, has been sent one at least once. More if the code sent was never used.

I would expect them to release all the specs to everyone when they implement the CSR. Until then, play for fun, improve your game, get commendations, SLASO, SpOps, or just leave. No one will miss you.

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They could at the very least say they were sorry to those who didn’t get a code. Not that hard to do. In fact, if 343 and/or Microsoft had just said “sorry” and acknowledged the problem, this would be going a lot smoother.

I already got my code, but I feel for those that didn’t.

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^ Yeah, while thats all well and good… Theres still the problem of 343 not communicating whats been going on with the community, properly anyway. Its just been one big run around and cover up, random twitter message here, random ms rep response there.

If there was ever an official message on waypoint stating that the problem is known, and being addressed… even if nothing could of been done to rectify, just an acknowledgment and apology would of been more than sufficient for me.

Im still annoyed there has been no statement given for all the people that were left out of the promotion, other than what the promotion was and people that qualified were mailed.

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> It isn’t 343’s problem to begin with.

Umm… of course it is. They made the game. They made the feature. They allowed it to be distributed to their customers in an uneven and misleading fashion. It is absolutely their problem.

> They did everything they could, and gave the proper information to Microsoft. Codes were sent. Codes were sent again to everyone who opted in AND opted out of marketing emails. Codes were sent AGAIN through XBL.

Then where is my code? You see how I am signed into this forum? Yeah, that’s because I have an XBL account with a valid email address. Still no codes, though.

> It’s not like they are purposefully trying to keep you from accessing the specializations. The records they have (which are far more extensive than you could ever hope to realize) say that everyone who was eligible to receive a code, has been sent one at least once. More if the code sent was never used.

Pff what? The whole problem exists because they purposefully kept people from getting the specializations. They screwed up. Not us. The sooner they admit it the better off they are.

> just leave. No one will miss you.

Great business model. Recipe for success, right there.

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If I’m honest, I don’t understand the point of the forums currently.

I had an issue. Created a topic to discuss said issue. The topic was locked. It wasn’t even controversial or anything. It was over the removal of overtime and sudden death.

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> Before you decide not to read this theres a TLDR at the bottom, so go read that if you dont care about the details.
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> “So do any of you mods care to explain…”
> Why the hell dont you have the decency or common courtesy to at least explain why your locking these threads. Do you have to just shut ppl down and leave them in the dark?

As someone who has been active on these forums, I can tell you they lock the threads because:

  1. There is no productivity to be gained from the thread.
  2. Terms and condition violations.
  3. Thread serves no purpose.
  4. Discussion could be one-sided.
  5. Because there is already a pre-existing thread, over 10 pages generally, covering the topic and duplicating threads is against the rules.

And lastly because it is the responsibility of the user posting the thread, not the moderators, to look around and find any corresponding threads before posting a new one, even though they don’t.

> Please before you lock this thread. Explain to us in our threads why they are being locked.
> Not, “Oh this has been discussed so were locking it.” Or giving some useless information.

Moderation decisions regarding posts and arguing them is against the rules. If your thread is locked, it was locked for a reason and it probably has something to do with the title and original post as well as the responses in the thread.

If you care that much to understand, just go through your thread and ask yourself what is wrong with the responses. If you cannot identify why that is, then you really need to consider your actions and posting privileges in the future.

Posting is a privilege, not a right. You are expected to understand the rules and conditions when you sign up. Again, most either don’t want to, or don’t care to. Either way, it’ll get you off these forums only that much faster by not…

> Explain that there is a sticky, or a place to discuss their issue.
> All your doing is driving away fans and showing the rest of us that you care even less than you already do about us.

lol… if you only knew the moderators…

> Can we please get a sticky about the specialization codes issue, hopefully with updates when possible. Heck there might even already be one its just not obvious enough, and <mark>if it was, ppl would stop posting threads about the topic.</mark>

lol… so we can send you pm’s filled with hate that you lied when another one pops up right? When another thread comes up saying they don’t have the specialization codes email or don’t know what to do to get the codes? /sarcasm

> And please, again, explain why your gonna lock this thread and then give us a link or some sort of solution or alternative.

Or, you could do like the rest of us and simply don’t create a controversial thread designed for flaming.

> TLDR: Dont lock threads with explanations that dont explain a thing, at least show us a place to discuss or read up on the topic so we can be constructive, helpful, or hell get the damn picture and be more patient.

Just be aware of the twenty other threads, don’t create controversial threads, and when a thread gets locked, ask yourself why it was.

If all else fails, be perfectly clear about what you are saying. It isn’t about even being rude, its about making sure you are crystal clear, make valid points which promote healthy discussion, and enjoying your times on the forums.

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The issue is, again, that the responses provided provided by the moderator (who was locking all the threads, not just one, related to the specialization code subject. That makes me think that it wasn’t just duplication of similar topics problem) did not match the problems that were being brought up.

There is currently no answer provided for someone who met all of the qualifications to receive the specialization email/XBL message but did not. Those who do, in fact, have valid email addresses, met the prior requirements but still didn’t even get the message in their XBL message center.

So, duplication or not, the regurgitation of information that does not help and the locking of the thread is simply not how this should have been handled, least of all when the information regurgitated did not even come close to addressing the concern.

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> The issue is, again, that the responses provided provided by the moderator (who was locking all the threads, not just one, related to the specialization code subject. That makes me think that it wasn’t just duplication of similar topics problem) did not match the problems that were being brought up.

Ummm… your contradicting yourself. See the points below:

> who was locking all the threads, not just one, related to the specialization code subject.

> That makes me think that it wasn’t just duplication of similar topics problem)

If the single subject of all the threads is a specialization email, then the moderator has the natural right to lock the excess ones. If the topic is outside of specialization, but still related, like complaining about how they don’t have it yet, then it is still about the same subject: specialization emails. This time with an added negative, flaming, statement.

A double negative by moderation standards. If the other topics are not about emails at all, then they are being locked for a reason.

If you want your answer as to why, go read the terms and conditions and look at the stickies located throughout the forums.

> There is currently no answer provided for someone who met all of the qualifications to receive the specialization email/XBL message but did not. Those who do, in fact, have valid email addresses, met the prior requirements but still didn’t even get the message in their XBL message center.

And a volunteer moderator is supposed to have your answer? They aren’t even 343 employees…

> So, duplication or not, the regurgitation of information that does not help and the locking of the thread is simply not how this should have been handled, least of all when the information regurgitated did not even come close to addressing the concern.

It is not a moderators job to inform you about these things. The Xbox Support Staff exist to answer your questions. Now go ask them.

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Incompetence at the highest echelons of power.

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> And a volunteer moderator is supposed to have your answer? They aren’t even 343 employees…
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> It is not a moderators job to inform you about these things. The Xbox Support Staff exist to answer your questions. Now go ask them.

People have been contacting xbox support staff since dec 1. about this, and being directed here for assistance and answers. Right or wrong, thats whats been happening. Then the mods here are just repeating the same programed response that provides no assistance or answers, and lock threads preventing people from further inquiry for their problems. If they arent staff, why are they answering, or not answering as it were, peoples questions ? The codes being emailed to eligible people, and messaged to invald email addresses, does not at all address the hundreds (maybe thousands?) of people that still were left with out after the emails and messages.

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> People have been contacting xbox support staff since dec 1. about this, and being directed here for assistance and answers. Right or wrong, thats whats been happening.

And the one sticky thread got removed, that is fine. Creating another thread as an “Official Xbox Support Redirect” thread would have been the smart thing to do.

> Then the mods here are just repeating the same programed response that provides no assistance or answers, and lock threads preventing people from further inquiry for their problems.

And if they do that, why would they be doing that? Spamming the forums with twenty of the same threads is still considered forum spam. Create a single thread, and post. Simple, no?

> If they arent staff, why are they answering, or not answering as it were, peoples questions?

All forums will have non staff members do that. It’s called being friendly and offering up what they know. Granted that is if they do it in a polite manner.

> The codes being emailed to eligible people, and messaged to invalid email addresses, does not address the hundreds (maybe thousands?) of people that still were left with out after the emails and messages.

Hundreds? People on these forums currently range to only MAYBE a hundred people. First point.

Second point. The only officials in charge of this is Xbox. I find it ironic they are saying to contact 343 regarding this, this means communications and handling privileges have been transferred. I personally would contact Xbox Support and request where to provide additional feedback regarding this.

Professionalism is a big trait for corporations and Microsoft and 343 need to be more aware of that. You can’t have your customer base running around, trying to figure out where to go next and pushing the bill till people get mad, its not smart business.

As for the situation, as I said before, it stinks to high heaven, but at this time, I’d just create a single thread and be patient regarding this.

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My biggest problem is that BS Angel openly directs people to Xbox Support on her twitter page, knowing they will direct them back here.