Classic Zoom is back!

I can’t believe nobody has noticed this, but just after 3:45 in the demo chief zooms in with the new VK78 Commando rifle, and it’s clearly using classic zoom mechanics, no more “smart scope” ADS!

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> I can’t believe nobody has noticed this, but just after 3:45 in the demo chief zooms in with the new VK78 Commando rifle, and it’s clearly using classic zoom mechanics, no more “smart scope” ADS!

Looks like smart scope

That was a good catch! I had not noticed that on my watching of it!
Tho the smart-scope of Halo 5 never really bothered me, i do like the feel of this one, if only shown for a mere split-second.

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> I can’t believe nobody has noticed this, but just after 3:45 in the demo chief zooms in with the new VK78 Commando rifle, and it’s clearly using classic zoom mechanics, no more “smart scope” ADS!

What’s wrong with smart scope that you feel this way?

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> What’s wrong with smart scope that you feel this way?

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I want to know what is WRONG with smart scope?

It wouldn’t have bothered me if it was Smartscope, because they are virtually one in the same. The biggest problem for ADS first introduction was whether or not there was some lag time between the animation and getting up some shots, and if you couldn’t be knocked out of it. H4 messed up imo, by making it to where you could stay zoomed in after fire. H5 corrected it by just making it visually look like ADS, and ofc it has always been Instant zoom in, no animation needed…

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> > I can’t believe nobody has noticed this, but just after 3:45 in the demo chief zooms in with the new VK78 Commando rifle, and it’s clearly using classic zoom mechanics, no more “smart scope” ADS!
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> What’s wrong with smart scope that you feel this way?

I don’t think I actually expressed any opinions on smart scope in that post, just excitement for classic zoom returning. I don’t actually have much of a problem with smart scope, in fact I actually quite liked it for the most part. I just know a lot of people hate it, and will be pleased to know it’s gone, I’m only exited because it’s just more of that classic Halo feel that seems to be rife in Infinite, and I’m all for it!

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I also wasn’t too know what’s wrong with smart scope. It looks to me like we’re getting a mix. I’m pretty sure there was ADS with the assault rifle, and classic zoom on the new rifle.

When I was playing H3 over summer break with my best buddy all the time back in the day, we always wanted ADS like some of the other shooters, and were wanted an open world like Fall Out >.>

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Disclaimer: I haven’t put the necessary hours into Halo 5 as I have the other titles BUT

For me classic zoom is completely unobtrusive whereas the smart scope blocks off a small portion of the screen. I’m also on the side of preferring the classic look/feel so that’s probably the bigger reason.

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> > > > I can’t believe nobody has noticed this, but just after 3:45 in the demo chief zooms in with the new VK78 Commando rifle, and it’s clearly using classic zoom mechanics, no more “smart scope” ADS!
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> For me classic zoom is completely unobtrusive whereas the smart scope blocks off a small portion of the screen. I’m also on the side of preferring the classic look/feel so that’s probably the bigger reason.

Classic zoom like the Halo 2 battle rifle and CE pistol covered all in black but the zoom circle. Smart scope you still see the whole screen, and the gun you are talking about the UNSC precision gun with a 20 round clip is Smart scope. Play it in 0.25 speed and you see the smart link lingers after scoping which is different to the CQB, Projection and recon scopes. Weird for a precision weapon as well.

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> > > > > I can’t believe nobody has noticed this, but just after 3:45 in the demo chief zooms in with the new VK78 Commando rifle, and it’s clearly using classic zoom mechanics, no more “smart scope” ADS!
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> Classic zoom like the Halo 2 battle rifle and CE pistol covered all in black but the zoom circle. Smart scope you still see the whole screen, and the gun you are talking about the UNSC precision gun with a 20 round clip is Smart scope. Play it in 0.25 speed and you see the smart link lingers after scoping which is different to the CQB, Projection and recon scopes. Weird for a precision weapon as well.

I did play it at 0.25 speed and it’s definitely more akin to the classic zoom, just a bit more fancy looking.

Looks good I must say. Much better than Halo 5.
Here’s hoping that not every weapon has ADS like in Halo 5.

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> > > > > I can’t believe nobody has noticed this, but just after 3:45 in the demo chief zooms in with the new VK78 Commando rifle, and it’s clearly using classic zoom mechanics, no more “smart scope” ADS!
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> Classic zoom like the Halo 2 battle rifle and CE pistol covered all in black but the zoom circle. Smart scope you still see the whole screen, and the gun you are talking about the UNSC precision gun with a 20 round clip is Smart scope. Play it in 0.25 speed and you see the smart link lingers after scoping which is different to the CQB, Projection and recon scopes. Weird for a precision weapon as well.

You make it sound like classic zoom has a completely black screen preventing you from seeing, but it’s just grayed out slightly allowing you to still see everything around your target.

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Not once did Chief ADS with the AR.

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> Classic zoom like the Halo 2 battle rifle and CE pistol covered all in black but the zoom circle. Smart scope you still see the whole screen

Is this a joke?
With classic zoom, the entire FoV is visible. ADS blocks off huge parts of the player’s line of sight by the huge weapon models. Some of the weapons even block off more of the screen during ADS than during hip-fire.
This was literally the exact thing people complained about: That they get an ugly weapon outline shoved into their faces when they try to get an unobstructed view of the enemies.

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> Looks good I must say. Much better than Halo 5.
> Here’s hoping that not every weapon has ADS like in Halo 5.

The Commando seems like it’s designed to take over the Smart Scope AR’s role.

Loved this about the demo.

I did notice! He also uses left trigger to throw a grenade! I was paying attention to this. I think there will still be a modern control scheme, which is good, but in glad I can go back to using recon controls without being disadvantaged like in halo 5. And also, smart scope looks like it is for sure “gone” because the zoom is from the helmet but the whole thing almost looks exactly like the gun. It still has that modern effect. I am extremely happy with this design choice.

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> I did notice! He also uses left trigger to throw a grenade! I was paying attention to this. I think there will still be a modern control scheme, which is good, but in glad I can go back to using recon controls without being disadvantaged like in halo 5. And also, smart scope looks like it is for sure “gone” because the zoom is from the helmet but the whole thing almost looks exactly like the gun. It still has that modern effect. I am extremely happy with this design choice.

They better have legacy controls, so help me! If they don’t have what the MCC offers, oh boy I will raise one big stink! If I have to remap my controls I will kick and scream, I swear.
Lol.
For real though, I hope they have all the control schemes people like (I’m a Universal Reclaimer guy myself).

Anyway, on topic. Imagine if you could choose between classic zoom animation and smart link or zoom or whatever the hell it’s called? That’d be cool. Not sure if that would alter the dynamic of multiplayer … it would probably be disadvantageous for the smart link people, but that’s on them, I say.

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> I can’t believe nobody has noticed this, but just after 3:45 in the demo chief zooms in with the new VK78 Commando rifle, and it’s clearly using classic zoom mechanics, no more “smart scope” ADS!

I would like classic zoom back personally. I like it better.