Hello everyone. I am absolutely positive that this is not an original idea, but I believe it would be a worthy and notable game type for Halo 5 and eventually H6.
I absolutely LOVE all of the Spartan abilities. I believe each ability has it’s own strengths and weaknesses while not breaking the game by just adding more diversity and speed to gameplay. Except for the fact that radar is extremely tight for the speed of which anyone can move, I enjoy all of the gameplay changes that came with H5.
With all of that said, there are many that hate some or all of the Spartan abilities. The solution to removing abilities all while being able to play such a beautiful and remarkable masterpiece of a game (without going back to previous titles or MCC) would be to create a “Classic” style mode.
I would like to know everyone’s opinions about having a “Classic” mode. I think it would be blast and a great option for those who aren’t a fan of the new Spartan abilities. Thought? Comments?
A classic mode has been brought up various times, at this point the best we get is using custom games to replicate as best as we can. I wonder when 343 will implement it considering months ago they were supposedly working on it, not suprised if they said -Yoink- it and just dropped it completely.
im still waiting on the next true classic game to come through myself as one mode isn’t enough nor is it the same as an entire game built around it.
I would also like a return of the classic game play while also having the current game play as an option. I’ve said many times that a spinoff game using Halo 2 Anniversary’s engine would be the best and easiest way to do that. But as it stands, Halo 5’s weapons are tuned for Halo 5’s gameplay. If we were to slow Spartans down, the weapons would be monstrously overpowered, making (and I hate using this analogy because of the connotations it has) the game adhere to the Call of Duty system of ‘shoot first to win’.
While I wouldn’t object I will point out if abilities are so hated by so many how come in customs games with no abilities isn’t that plentiful? Sadly with H5 population they can’t have a playlist to cater to every play style. But at least there is a way to play H5 with no abilities if you really want to.
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> I would also like a return of the classic game play while also having the current game play as an option. I’ve said many times that a spinoff game using Halo 2 Anniversary’s engine would be the best and easiest way to do that. But as it stands, Halo 5’s weapons are tuned for Halo 5’s gameplay. If we were to slow Spartans down, the weapons would be monstrously overpowered, making (and I hate using this analogy because of the connotations it has) the game adhere to the Call of Duty system of ‘shoot first to win’.
Very true. The weapon sandbox for H5 is far to powerful to slow it down. Mainly the accuracy would have to be dubbed down a little with the damage taking a slight hit as well. BR from across the map constantly is not a fun game. It would have to be a req free environment for it to succeed as well.
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> While I wouldn’t object I will point out if abilities are so hated by so many how come in customs games with no abilities isn’t that plentiful? Sadly with H5 population they can’t have a playlist to cater to every play style. But at least there is a way to play H5 with no abilities if you really want to.
I did this when the custom games browser dropped with a “Reach Slayer” variant to go along with with a remake of Countdown I made. I spent way too much time by myself waiting for randoms to join in. Problem is the customs community typically only joins FLASHY COLORED FORGE GAME RACE MAP or standard 343 Slayer variants. You can’t really disguise a modified game variant with generic names because as soon as some kid realizes their clamber is gone, so are they. I think if 343 would have honored the thousands of requests over the years to have and preserve a “Classic Slayer” from title to title and launched H5 with it, instead of say ambitious directions like Breakout and Warzone, there would be plenty of people so supplement that playlist. Who knows? It might have helped the game not be so forgettable.
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> While I wouldn’t object I will point out if abilities are so hated by so many how come in customs games with no abilities isn’t that plentiful? Sadly with H5 population they can’t have a playlist to cater to every play style. But at least there is a way to play H5 with no abilities if you really want to.
Yes, I do realize in custom games that you can remove Spartan abilities, and it is really awesome that 343i opened the Halo custom gaming world to each other with basically adding a more social aspect to the game. We already have a game type with constant fast pace playing with insane req weapons in Super Fiesta. Why not have a preset “Classic” mode for a weekend. It would likely be too “Basic"B*tch” for todays hard core sweaty kids, I get that. For the hardcore/older Halo fans that played the old titles endlessly, this would be the closest thing to pure ecasty while having the perfect picture of today’s top gaming experience.
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> > While I wouldn’t object I will point out if abilities are so hated by so many how come in customs games with no abilities isn’t that plentiful? Sadly with H5 population they can’t have a playlist to cater to every play style. But at least there is a way to play H5 with no abilities if you really want to.
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> I did this when the custom games browser dropped with a “Reach Slayer” variant to go along with with a remake of Countdown I made. I spent way too much time by myself waiting for randoms to join in. Problem is the customs community typically only joins FLASHY COLORED FORGE GAME RACE MAP or standard 343 Slayer variants. You can’t really disguise a modified game variant with generic names because as soon as some kid realizes their clamber is gone, so are they. I think if 343 would have honored the thousands of requests over the years to have and preserve a “Classic Slayer” from title to title and launched H5 with it, instead of say ambitious directions like Breakout and Warzone, there would be plenty of people so supplement that playlist. Who knows? It might have helped the game not be so forgettable.
Exactly. Advancement of a game is mandatory if you are to keep the game “alive” and pull in new gamers. But a “Classic Slayer” Mode is not only a preservation of a golden gem, it is also a proud statement and a stand on what was so perfect with how the game came to be, as in an insane shooter game, not just a shoot and dash kind of adrenaline rush for some kid who should probably be outside learning how to ride a bike.
Also there is a game called MCC that has classic Halo. . And no it’s not broken I find games in it when I play it.
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> > While I wouldn’t object I will point out if abilities are so hated by so many how come in customs games with no abilities isn’t that plentiful? Sadly with H5 population they can’t have a playlist to cater to every play style. But at least there is a way to play H5 with no abilities if you really want to.
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> I did this when the custom games browser dropped with a “Reach Slayer” variant to go along with with a remake of Countdown I made. I spent way too much time by myself waiting for randoms to join in. Problem is the customs community typically only joins FLASHY COLORED FORGE GAME RACE MAP or standard 343 Slayer variants. You can’t really disguise a modified game variant with generic names because as soon as some kid realizes their clamber is gone, so are they. I think if 343 would have honored the thousands of requests over the years to have and preserve a “Classic Slayer” from title to title and launched H5 with it, instead of say ambitious directions like Breakout and Warzone, there would be plenty of people so supplement that playlist. Who knows? It might have helped the game not be so forgettable.
Yeah, I have modes for CE, H2, and H3 in my fileshare (tuned everything from jump height, melee strength, grenade strength, etc. Even took some 1:1 remakes of CE maps and timed how long it took to traverse from one end to the other and tuned my run speed accordingly) and I set up a customs lobby for it …no one joined.
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> Also there is a game called MCC that has classic Halo. . And no it’s not broken I find games in it when I play it.
Yes I realize that there is a game called MCC. I was inquiring about creating a H5 classic game type so that gamers can still play H5 but at a different place if so desired.
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> > Also there is a game called MCC that has classic Halo. . And no it’s not broken I find games in it when I play it.
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> Yes I realize that there is a game called MCC. I was inquiring about creating a H5 classic game type so that gamers can still play H5 but at a different place if so desired.
There are players doing it in custom browser. H5 with classic settings. It’s possible and 343 shouldn’t be required to make a playlist for it IMO. Seeing how gamers can do it if they want it.
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> > > Also there is a game called MCC that has classic Halo. . And no it’s not broken I find games in it when I play it.
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> There are players doing it in custom browser. H5 with classic settings. It’s possible and 343 shouldn’t be required to make a playlist for it IMO. Seeing how gamers can do it if they want it.
Yeah, the thing is though, we want Halo to play like Halo whenever we play Halo. There’s a huge difference between being able to do something in customs, and going in to matchmaking and playing it.
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> > > > Also there is a game called MCC that has classic Halo. . And no it’s not broken I find games in it when I play it.
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> Yeah, the thing is though, we want Halo to play like Halo whenever we play Halo. There’s a huge difference between being able to do something in customs, and going in to matchmaking and playing it.
That is your opinion though. Considering Halo has changed every game you can’t really say what Halo is supposed to play as. So 343 be required to make a playlist catering to every Halo with every play style? There would be like 100 playlist if that was the case.
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> > > > > Also there is a game called MCC that has classic Halo. . And no it’s not broken I find games in it when I play it.
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> That is your opinion though. Considering Halo has changed every game you can’t really say what Halo is supposed to play as. So 343 be required to make a playlist catering to every Halo with every play style? There would be like 100 playlist if that was the case.
Yes, we can say what Halo is supposed to play like. While there were large changes between 1 and 2, they both still have a similar feeling, unlike Reach and 2 or Reach and 3. The original trilogy has a similar feeling, no sprint, airy jumps, and faster base movement. Obviously if you spend a lot of time in each one you see little differences, but nowhere near the amount that you see in the latest 3 games. Reach-5 all feel vastly different from the original 3, and in my mind that makes them not feel like Halo should.
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> > > > > > Also there is a game called MCC that has classic Halo. . And no it’s not broken I find games in it when I play it.
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> > > > > Yes I realize that there is a game called MCC. I was inquiring about creating a H5 classic game type so that gamers can still play H5 but at a different place if so desired.
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> > > Yeah, the thing is though, we want Halo to play like Halo whenever we play Halo. There’s a huge difference between being able to do something in customs, and going in to matchmaking and playing it.
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> > That is your opinion though. Considering Halo has changed every game you can’t really say what Halo is supposed to play as. So 343 be required to make a playlist catering to every Halo with every play style? There would be like 100 playlist if that was the case.
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> Yes, we can say what Halo is supposed to play like. While there were large changes between 1 and 2, they both still have a similar feeling, unlike Reach and 2 or Reach and 3. The original trilogy has a similar feeling, no sprint, airy jumps, and faster base movement. Obviously if you spend a lot of time in each one you see little differences, but nowhere near the amount that you see in the latest 3 games. Reach-5 all feel vastly different from the original 3, and in my mind that makes them not feel like Halo should.
No you can say what Halo is supposed to play like in your opinion. The point is they can’t have playlist that play like every Halo that has been made. If classic is what you prefer play MCC or custom games with the settings for classic play. That is what I do. The construct and snowbound remakes are very well done and play great. There are probably other maps out there available to play.
Yes, All of the Spartan abilities are AWESOME! I never understood why people want 343 to make the same game from 15+ years ago
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> > Yes, we can say what Halo is supposed to play like. While there were large changes between 1 and 2, they both still have a similar feeling, unlike Reach and 2 or Reach and 3. The original trilogy has a similar feeling, no sprint, airy jumps, and faster base movement. Obviously if you spend a lot of time in each one you see little differences, but nowhere near the amount that you see in the latest 3 games. Reach-5 all feel vastly different from the original 3, and in my mind that makes them not feel like Halo should.
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> No you can say what Halo is supposed to play like in your opinion. The point is they can’t have playlist that play like every Halo that has been made. If classic is what you prefer play MCC or custom games with the settings for classic play. That is what I do. The construct and snowbound remakes are very well done and play great. There are probably other maps out there available to play.
Oh yes MCC with it’s numerous glitches and ultra low population is a super viable option, so are custom games which I would need 7 other people to play properly. I want to be able to go into matchmaking and play proper halo multiplayer again on a main release, not through a custom match or on a game that MS and 343 couldn’t give less of a -Yoink- about.
I play classic Slayer all the time. I love the Spartan Abilities, and realistically they should exist as far as lore goes (technology expands) but sometimes its frustrating as someone who’s played all Halo’s that Spartan Abilities isn’t the primary Slayer gametype (It is Halo 5) and a Classic Halo matchmaking gametype.
Classic Slayer is a revolutionary gametype as is Halo, so I don’t see why we don’t celebrate it by playing it on such occasions as a Matchmade game.
I suppose though that the Customs Browser makes it easier to find like-minded Spartans!
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> Yes, All of the Spartan abilities are AWESOME! I never understood why people want 343 to make the same game from 15+ years ago
The fact this statement can still be uttered is a crying shame, I had thought people were better informed.