Does anybody think this sounds reasonable that the classic art style could return? If you think about now there are guardians on most of the planets including Mars where all the weapons for the UNSC are made. If a guardian was on Mars that would mean they could not make the weapons or send them out to Earth. That would mean there would be a shortage of the new weapons in halo 4 and 5. The only weapons and vehicles they would have access to are the ones from the Human Covenant War which means we could maby be seeing the classic weapons and vehicles such as BR55’s M6D magnums Hornets classic snipers and scorpions etc. Any thoughts?
i liked the older design of weapons more such as the MA37, BR55, MA5B, M392 etc.
UNSC manufacturing facilities are most certainly not located on Mars and Mars alone. The UNSC is massive. Their contractors have facilities that are located on planets other than Mars.
And if I’m reading Warfleet’s info on the Infinity correctly, it appears that it’s implied she has her own weapon foundries. Orion-class assault carriers as well as colony ships such as the Spirit of Fire (a modified Phoenix-class) are also able to support their own factories and production lines. I don’t think it’s unreasonable that other ships of similar size would have the same capabilities.
So, to an extent, it may be reasonable, but the UNSC would be able to use post-War tech for quite some time.
The only way I see a return to the older art style really being sustainable and feasible in the long term is if the UNSC decided that the post-War redesigns weren’t effective enough, thus prompting another set of redesigns that would more closely resemble the original art style.
I think its a dumb decision if 343 dont revert to the old artstyle. The new artstyle is universally hated.
Art design preferences are purely subjective. Then again what you’re asking is unlikely in current canon (the spirit of fire can build new vehicles and stuff with the designs templates and ship factories, like the mantis, kodiak, ect) so going to older design weapons is more a down grade because they look pretty and not functional, it’s like the US going back for the M1 garand for looks and PING! over actual advantages like smaller 7.62x51 over .30-06 and detachable mags, and a bunch of other stuff too.
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Art style preferences are purely subjective. Oh and they haven’t in 2 main titles so I don’t see why they would now. Not only that but they need to CONSIDER EVERYONE in the community. Not just some fans who like old over new, or new over old, or in between and those don’t care, but EVERYONE. See the problem? That’s hundreds upon thousands of opinions to consider.
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I don’t think hes speaking for anyone i think hes right in that the new art style is universally least preferred compared to the older art style, i feel like the older designs had more flare and life to them, bungie went with style and realism not one or the other. Thats why people always make the point that new spartans look like power rangers they tried too hard with the sci fi and modernism when they should have just built off of existing designs instead of trying to change everything drastically, thats why people like halo wars 2’s art style because it has best of both new and old.
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The first person ive seen who actually likes huge naked skin and metal armor elites.
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Its fine bro if you like power rangers. We wont judge you dont worry.
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Why not make an argument on why it looks like Power Rangers? Seriously no one I’ve seen actually backs up their statement on “Power Rangers”.
Unless you’re referring to color, which is obvious but ironic considering Halo 3.
Either way if 343i wants to bring it back they’ll bring it back regardless or whatever they established. (same applies to gameplay)
I like that you gave a reason in the canon as to why we would see the old style. That woukd be nice, if they used areas with old teck to bring back old art styles.
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I swear to god no one in this community actually knows what a Power Ranger looks like.
“power rangers this! power rangers that! 343 bring back the old art style!”
HAS ANYONE ACTUALLY SEEN A -Yoink!- POWER RANGER BEFORE
SERIOUSLY
HOW IN THE -Yoink-
DOES THIS
LOOK ANYTHING LIKE [THIS
](https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/powerrangers/images/1/13/Mmpr-red.png/revision/latest?cb=20130726024302)Y’all are seein’ things that I ain’t, because I certainly do not see any resemblance.
343 has stupid-looking armor designs, I will concede. But nothing that they’ve put out resembles a Power Ranger in the slightest.
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> flips tableI swear to god no one in this community actually knows what a Power Ranger looks like.
> “power rangers this! power rangers that! 343 bring back the old art style!”
> HAS ANYONE ACTUALLY SEEN A -Yoink!- POWER RANGER BEFORE
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> 343 has stupid-looking armor designs, I will concede. But nothing that they’ve put out resembles a Power Ranger in the slightest.
Almost as bad as that one time people negatively compared Halo Wars 2 mechs to Gundam. Which is the most ironic thing considering Mark V’s inspiration.
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Well i don’t really like the new elites but im okay with them i just wish they brought back the old elites for the SOS so both designs co exist with each other, not too mention you could actually tell the difference between them instead of who’s red or not.
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> Almost as bad as that one time people negatively compared Halo Wars 2 mechs to Gundam. Which is the most ironic thing considering Mark V’s inspiration.
Most of these classic art style headliners just repeat the same baseless allegations. 343i mis stepped with some choices but the universe like the world moves on. So things will update and change. Honestly I think most of them have abandonment issues or haven’t grown up fully.
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> Does anybody think this sounds reasonable that the classic art style could return? If you think about now there are guardians on most of the planets including Mars where all the weapons for the UNSC are made. If a guardian was on Mars that would mean they could not make the weapons or send them out to Earth. That would mean there would be a shortage of the new weapons in halo 4 and 5. The only weapons and vehicles they would have access to are the ones from the Human Covenant War which means we could maby be seeing the classic weapons and vehicles such as BR55’s M6D magnums Hornets classic snipers and scorpions etc. Any thoughts?
Not only that, but if you check the Mark V D helmet, it talks about Spartans scavenging old armor, and reusing it
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> Most of these classic art style headliners just repeat the same baseless allegations. 343i mis stepped with some choices but the universe like the world moves on. So things will update and change. Honestly I think most of them have abandonment issues or haven’t grown up fully.
so people that like certain art directions have abandonment issues… whatever lets just stay on topic XD
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Not even close. There are a lot of people who probably prefer the older art style, but I bet most people don’t really pay enough attention to make up their mind either way. Also, just because you like one art style doesn’t mean you hate the new one. And I love 4’s style the most.
Anyways, back on topic. I think it really depends on how long this Reclaimer War is fought. It’s really up to 343i. If the game picks up only a few weeks after Halo 6 than the UNSC still has a ton of spare ammo, weapons and vehicles to fight. If it takes place a year from now… Well, as @EMPEROR NOVA01 said, there are other facilities and even some ships that have their own manufacturing bases.
Perhaps some of the smaller colonies and ships might have to fall back on older tech, but realistically speaking, how many modern American Aircraft Carriers carry WW2 planes? Or how many Marines decide to bring along an old rifle over whatever is standard issue right now? I think when the UNSC starts to run out of weapons, unless they’re hanging around a weapons warehouse, a weapons store, or a Human-Covenant War museum, they’re just simply going to run out.
Imo, I think a much more likely scenario is that all of the races will start to share resources and tech as the war progresses and their supplies start to run low. So it wouldn’t be strange, for example, to see a bunch of marines with needlers and storm rifles rush a Forerunner camp. Or Elites using Pelicans to land behind enemy lines. etc.
I’ve never seen the problem as lying in the weapons and vehicles, honestly the covenant vehicles in halo 5 are pretty great. The problem between the two art styles is the architecture. The spaceships and buildings in the old style make sense, the military ones look real, big metal plates, sharp edges, etc. and the civilian stuff looks nice, the skyline of New Mombasa looks like stuff people would actually want. In the new style, everything is chunky, without exceptions. Everything; ships, buildings, trash cans, they all look like solid chunks of metal for some reason. It’s sorta the same thing with elites’ armor. It’s unpleasant and unreasonable.
My solution: make ships like the infinity look like it is a boulder shaped into a ship, give it plates. For elites, just make their armor thinner, with a few seems. Sky scrapers should be made of glass, cause that’s actually attractive. Overall, things should look like they were made out of multiple pieces, not all at once.
It’s purely mainly due to the feed back from 4 and 5 I mean have you seen the Marines in game what were they thinking looking like space cadets. The elites too they look nothing like one but clumps of clay with an energy sword. Halo wars 2 showed 343 just what the fans prefer. The new art style is just too shiny and plastic not enough grit.