Chief a traitor to the every specie & UR-Clone???

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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So by the words of the Arbiter (an Elite) “…But because all our lives are at stake… Because the Seeds of our future, are *saumed??( cant understand) in its past”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re4SHwP-7Sk
And in the Halo 2 Prologue and finallogue or whatever Arbiter wouldn’t help Locke for no reason, Arbiter was chief friend so…

So Master Chief may not only be a traitor to ONI or UNSC or Humanity but also to the covenant and any other species, from it I’ve been seeing as much as its costs me to say chief seems to be turning into the bad guy, in the chief trailer when he said “Mine is only just beggining” he sound a real threat, the sound of his voice turned louder when he said that (techincal side, meaning that, that was an important phrase to keep in mind in the trailer), he sounded a machine with no 2º tought to kill locke (killing someone of his own race… (I don’t like to use this word but whatever) and complete his own objective (which I believe its against multiple races. Also Chief ask all those questions in the trailer to himself if it was worth it everthing he has done to humanity… I mean its clear.)

Master Chief may have done, doing or planning something big (something big in deep space) IDK, maybe even with halsey. but what I trully believe is that chief is not only a threat to humanity but for multiple races.

Also steve downes wrote in the coment section in his trailer post on facebook:
"I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita… “Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.”

We saw Locke in the live action serie loyal to its team seemed like a good guy, he seemed someone very determined to complete his mission like in the trailers, he may seem a bad guy in the trailers but its just his personality.

And for some reason I don’t believe in that stuff of Locke being brainwashed by ONI bla bla bla, I mean people can get brainwashed nowadays but that seems to generic to an intruiging story…

BTW I know theres something in chief past and I didn’t mentioned here but whatever this is probably all wrong for all of you…

btw just one more thing nothing to do with my original theory

so assuming chief is UR-Didact could that had affected chief clone? by keeping him alive?

And here’s another side to who believe the scenes in the trailers take place in the game.

Chief, Locke and some others are fighting, Locke comes in a pelican to fight chief, chief is in a canon or some sorth, shots the infinity which would explain the infinity damaged in the trailers, chief also hits locke pelican, the pelican crashes thats why we see everything destroyed around in the zone (Master Chief statue may be the only symbolism in the trailer). In the locke trailer locke comes out of the pelican, chief comes from outside and then they used the scene to created this both sides. I don’t believe this will happen in game but its just a small theory that came to my head to those who believe this will be in the game.

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Sown in his past.

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The seeds of our future, are sown in his past.

basically the chief is the iso didact.

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so “sown” or “swen” lol

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anyone?

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If Chief has anything Forerunner-related about him, it would be the geas of the Ur-Didact, not the Iso-Didact. I recognize that evidence exists for the Iso-Didact angle, but consider some things. The Librarian did not have the geas of the Iso-Didact on her when she left behind her essence on Requiem and she would not encounter him again as she went to Earth and died when the Halos wiped out all life in the galaxy. In fact she figured that meditation with the Domain would cure the Ur-Didact of his madness, but with the Domain destroyed that plan of hers failed. The Ur-Didact had an immunity from the Composer, Chief gets one as well after the Librarian AI accelerates his evolution. Chief could hear the Ur-Didact in his mind, Bornsteller could hear the Ur-Didact in his mind as well.

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> If Chief has anything Forerunner-related about him, it would be the geas of the Ur-Didact, not the Iso-Didact. I recognize that evidence exists for the Iso-Didact angle, but consider some things. The Librarian did not have the geas of the Iso-Didact on her when she left behind her essence on Requiem and she would not encounter him again as she went to Earth and died when the Halos wiped out all life in the galaxy. In fact she figured that meditation with the Domain would cure the Ur-Didact of his madness, but with the Domain destroyed that plan of hers failed. The Ur-Didact had an immunity from the Composer, Chief gets one as well after the Librarian AI accelerates his evolution. Chief could hear the Ur-Didact in his mind, Bornsteller could hear the Ur-Didact in his mind as well.

oh ok sorry, I couldn’t see the diference between ISO and UR-Didact

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> If Chief has anything Forerunner-related about him, it would be the geas of the Ur-Didact, not the Iso-Didact. I recognize that evidence exists for the Iso-Didact angle, but consider some things. The Librarian did not have the geas of the Iso-Didact on her when she left behind her essence on Requiem and she would not encounter him again as she went to Earth and died when the Halos wiped out all life in the galaxy. In fact she figured that meditation with the Domain would cure the Ur-Didact of his madness, but with the Domain destroyed that plan of hers failed. The Ur-Didact had an immunity from the Composer, Chief gets one as well after the Librarian AI accelerates his evolution. Chief could hear the Ur-Didact in his mind, Bornsteller could hear the Ur-Didact in his mind as well.

It really just comes down to a matter of semantics, considering the Iso-Didact is himself a “copy” of the Ur-Didact. So is Chief a copy, or a copy of a copy? Doesn’t really matter, because the source is the same. I prefer to think of him as a copy of the Iso-Didact, just because I like to play out the symbolic rivalry between Iso and Ur in my head.

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> > If Chief has anything Forerunner-related about him, it would be the geas of the Ur-Didact, not the Iso-Didact. I recognize that evidence exists for the Iso-Didact angle, but consider some things. The Librarian did not have the geas of the Iso-Didact on her when she left behind her essence on Requiem and she would not encounter him again as she went to Earth and died when the Halos wiped out all life in the galaxy. In fact she figured that meditation with the Domain would cure the Ur-Didact of his madness, but with the Domain destroyed that plan of hers failed. The Ur-Didact had an immunity from the Composer, Chief gets one as well after the Librarian AI accelerates his evolution. Chief could hear the Ur-Didact in his mind, Bornsteller could hear the Ur-Didact in his mind as well.
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> oh ok sorry, I couldn’t see the diference between ISO and UR-Didact

Well truthfully, he could have the Iso-Didact’s, nothing is confirmed on this yet, but I find the Ur-Didact more likely given all we know from the Forerunner Saga.

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but you’re right if it is the Ur-Didact that has the immunity from the Composer. then it is UR-Didact if the theory its real after all Master Chief did survived the composer btw is the UR-didact that 343 guilty spark was refering when talking to chief in halo combat evolved?

(DecepticonCobra)

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> so “sown” or “swen” lol

Sown. To sow: to plant seed. Sew: to stitch fabric together.

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> > so “sown” or “swen” lol
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> Sown. To sow: to plant seed. Sew: to stitch fabric together.

oh ok thanks :stuck_out_tongue:

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> but you’re right if it is the Ur-Didact that has the immunity from the Composer. then it is UR-Didact if the theory its real after all Master Chief did survived the composer btw is the UR-didact that 343 guilty spark was refering when talking to chief in halo combat evolved?
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No, the Iso-Didact is who Spark was referring to. But over the years Spark’s reality seemed to blur between his old memories as a human and his memories as a Monitor. But given the Iso-Didact gets his geas from the Ur-Didact, who really knows?

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> > but you’re right if it is the Ur-Didact that has the immunity from the Composer. then it is UR-Didact if the theory its real after all Master Chief did survived the composer btw is the UR-didact that 343 guilty spark was refering when talking to chief in halo combat evolved?
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> No, the Iso-Didact is who Spark was referring to. But over the years Spark’s reality seemed to blur between his old memories as a human and his memories as a Monitor. But given the Iso-Didact gets his geas from the Ur-Didact, who really knows?

well ok I’m missing something lol really need to read the books etc to get more into it

btw another thing that might prove my theory

steve downes wrote the in the coment section in his trailer post on facebook
"I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita… “Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.”

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I mean, it’s not the worst theory, but I am really reluctant to believe 343i will make Chief the villain for many reasons. Ultimately, Chief is the face of Halo and the backlash for making Chief evil would be the death knell of the franchise (not saying that there wouldn’t be those that like it, just not the majority). Secondly, it’s too apparent that the trailers want us to believe Chief is evil now, and the whole thing is “look for the truth” so I doubt it’s that simple. In reality, he may have the didacts geas (suppose it’s possible) but thr likelihood of him being evil is nil.

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> I mean, it’s not the worst theory, but I am really reluctant to believe 343i will make Chief the villain for many reasons. Ultimately, Chief is the face of Halo and the backlash for making Chief evil would be the death knell of the franchise (not saying that there wouldn’t be those that like it, just not the majority). Secondly, it’s too apparent that the trailers want us to believe Chief is evil now, and the whole thing is “look for the truth” so I doubt it’s that simple. In reality, he may have the didacts geas (suppose it’s possible) but thr likelihood of him being evil is nil.

I know chief being the bad one would be… idk… hmmm ridiculus, but chief doesn’t seem chief (the one we know). I mean look at the trailer, he’s diferent, intends to kill a human, he could have leaved and let locke there but no john points a magnum at its face (a sign for me that humanity is at danger from chief) but anyway its in 2\10 that this may be the case