CHEATING in Halo 4 Infinity Challenge

So I’m wondering how 343/-Yoink!- will be regulating the Infinity Challenge. Basically, once the finals start, I’m pretty sure people will be switching off with their friends or family to play continuously for the whole week and win. My question is will these people be penalized or is this fair game?
I do have a suggestion. A way to prevent switching off with friends is if you guys make a set time limit to play. Basically, 8am to 8pm or something like that. That way its a matter of who can rack up the most points in that time, rather than who can get their little cousin to play while they sleep.
I’m sure a lot of people who were planning to do this are gonna hate me, but it’s an issue that needs to be addressed.

The whole premise of the comp is a joke. Skill should be rewarded not mindless persistence. Shame on -Yoink!- for endorsing this.

I’m not a big fan of the format either, but we gotta deal with what we got. I for one don’t really like the idea of an entire family playing for one guy for a whole week lol. Its totally unfair. Hopefully somebody who has the power to at least give some input reads this.

Its a joke fullstop.

A tournament, on game suffering major balance issues, that has a prize that can only be collected in the US (they wont ship the car to the RotW), for a frankly hidious vehicle that is a gas guzzler, is over large on any roads outside the US. All based on a scoring system that favours grinding and cheating over skill and real team work.

Who ever thought this one up was obviously desperate for H4 to make its mark against CoD. It failed. And failed badly. And the players of H4 are frustrated with the whole shebang.

And all this on top of the shenanigans with the map pack and the need for codes to unlock specs ranks. H4 rates imo as disaster that needs rescuing in short order. If 343 really want to make DLC sales and get more players to the MP, they absolutely require this next TU to be bullet proof and sort out balance ASAP. Or else what players are left will just give up and move on to another title and forgo any DLC or further Halo games.

Report the comp to the press. They love this kind of story, big multi national encourages kids to play computer games for 18 hours+ per day for several weeks.

I hope an 8 year old wins the truck on his dads account :slight_smile:

I could go on about adjustments I wish they would make too but that’s not the point of this thread man. It’s about the Infinity Challenge. Sure the tournament isn’t what many would want it to be but I for one just want to make sure it isn’t totally exploited. So please avoid criticizing the game here and focus on the topic at hand… There’s plenty of threads that fit that other subject haha. Thanks for your opinion though I do agree with some of your points.

I realise you’re trying to police the existing comp, but there’s very little you’ll be able to achieve. -Yoink!- have set the terms out so cannot change them now.

A play window would be the obvious choice but that’s not in the terms. Besides catching idlers there’s very little they can do to prove who is actually playing.

I disagree, there is plenty they can do to filter out the cheaters, the question is WILL they do it. The point of this thread is just to draw attention to the pink elephant in the room. I just want 343 or -Yoink!- or SOMEBODY who holds any sort of power to take a step back and realize that this WILL happen and they need to stop it. For one, someone who is logged on for close to a week straight can easily be banned from the competition. Secondly, account recovering to a different Xbox can also be monitored very easily… I realize this is just a drop in a well in the larger scale of things, but I am just trying my best to draw attention to it as I don’t know any other way :confused: I didn’t expect this thread to get much attention from anyone in a power position to begin with but we’ll see where it goes.

its fine. i feel bad for other players not in the US tho…

> Report the comp to the press. They love this kind of story, big multi national encourages kids to play computer games for 18 hours+ per day for several weeks.

You need to be 18+ to be eligible for the tournament.

> I disagree, there is plenty they can do to filter out the cheaters, the question is WILL they do it. The point of this thread is just to draw attention to the pink elephant in the room. I just want 343 or -Yoink!- or SOMEBODY who holds any sort of power to take a step back and realize that this WILL happen and they need to stop it. For one, someone who is logged on for close to a week straight can easily be banned from the competition. Secondly, account recovering to a different Xbox can also be monitored very easily… I realize this is just a drop in a well in the larger scale of things, but I am just trying my best to draw attention to it as I don’t know any other way :confused: I didn’t expect this thread to get much attention from anyone in a power position to begin with but we’ll see where it goes.

Why do you think it needs drawing attention to? 343 have years of experience (not necessarily as a company) working out how to counter cheaters and boosters etc, they are 100% aware this will occur.

It needs to be vocalized is the thing. Again, I don’t expect anything to occur because of this thread, but I am HOPING that it does. This is just a huge concern for people like me who actually want to try and win this. As stupid as you all may find the competition, I’ve looked passed that and just want to do my best given the circumstances. Again, this thread isn’t meant for trashing Halo 4 or this tournament, there’s a thousand other threads like that. My only goal is to make it obvious that there are people like me who actually want this to be as legitimate as possible. That’s all.

It’s a mess. Hopefully they at least make a FFA playlist for the finals. That’ll eliminate the ridiculous kill farming at least. But the player(s) who play(s) 24/7 will still win.

A FFA playlist with true skill removed would make it semi salvageable, because then at least good players would end up on top every game (instead of just being matched with other good players, which is what happens in the challenge currently). But it really just needs a new format.

Why is there an EXP cap for the regular game but no sort of thing for this comp? that would stop cheaters. :slight_smile:

Well if you make the competition based on skill, you will lock out 99% of players from ever having a dream of winning. I don’t think that is a bad thing, but obviously they wanted this competition to be appealing to players of all skill ranges.

I agree having a window each day to get your games in would be a better way to run this kind of a competition. IDC though, I wouldn’t win any way you set it up.

Im buying FC3 today :frowning: need I say anymore!

> > Report the comp to the press. They love this kind of story, big multi national encourages kids to play computer games for 18 hours+ per day for several weeks.
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> You need to be 18+ to be eligible for the tournament.

theres a thing called faking your age… easy to do yaknow. also you are meant to be 16+ to play Halo but i still get paired with dumb little 8 year olds

I am enjoying this Tournament and its attempt to fine tune a massive task of Online Gaming immensely. Such a large-scale effort is sure to become a ‘Standard’ of sorts for all future Gaming Tournaments whether they be ‘Halo’ associated or not. There is one subject of growing frequency though that must be reported.

There are Gamers in Halo 4 Infinity Challenge who have employed ways to cheat the CTF competition. This Contest has a substantial reward for one or two people who will, at this stage, most likely turn out to be representative of groups of cheaters who have colluded for the resale or auction value of specified prizes offered.

I don’t like to become involved with cheating. If I have the misfortune of becoming an unwilling participant in these actions, whether to my advantage or not, I try to quit the Map ASAP. Unfortunately, cheaters also quit MAPs en masse too in attempts to avoid becoming Player Reviewed during ongoing Match progress. Excessive quitting during MAP loadup can be minimized with better enforcement monitoring. Multiple Player quitting during Match or MAP Loadups that originate from a single Console IP data identified as to whether they be Players or a combination of unregistered Tournament Guests with identical trace is easy to enforce too.

So far, as a member of each Spartan Team tracked in the -Yoink!- Games Leader board(s), if I see other fellow Team members standing motionless in my MAP, especially when I go up and push or club them to get a reaction, it is a strong indicator of “spoofing” which is a form of cheat. Imagine someone sitting at home with multiple controllers entered in the same Challenge MAP. That individual can monitor all “spoofs” on his/her split screen multi-view while having previously tricked (or not) automatic Servers into placing that cheater onto an opposing Team. It can just as easily be ‘luck of the Server draw’ that a Player ends up on one Team while his “spoofs” become assigned to the other Team in the same Match. This potentially makes up to three other ‘dead stick controllers’ that nefarious individual took away from his/her opposing Team without so much as breaking a sweat.

Still, there are other variants of the cheat method just mentioned. Aside from xBox Console “Linking with Friends”, -Yoink!- Gaming Tournament enforcers can follow such tactics by tracking IP Address, Subnet Mask, & Gateway data uniquely belonging to every Console employed for bending Contest rules in their favor. But is -Yoink!- Gaming doing so? Did they bite off more than they could ‘enforce’? Were they truly ready for this or are Contest Participants their unpaid labor for weeding out the bugs/glitches/scammers and loop rules?

Aside from familiar “griefing” and “sitting idle in games” to stack odds that help an Opposing Team, there also appears to be new “aimbot” coding of some kind victims actually witness during their own ‘killed flashback’ cut scenes. There is no source code limitation as to why these ‘killed flashback’ cut scene(s) cannot be ‘flashed’ for the victim’s benefit ‘EXACTLY’ {at same frame per sec “fps”} from what the victor saw during real time execution. Even a shell and Pea bet has a Pea the loser can demand to see before paying up.

And yet, in many personally experienced deaths, I witness in my own cut scene that the victor(s) accomplish such tasks by defying physics in addition to supposed enhanced prowess of their weapons and/or Specialization. Respawning back into play should never be fps shortchanged if a victim wants to know ‘EXACTLY’ what killed him. Even the last two kill shots can be “stack flashed’ for the victim if he/she wants convincing optional confirmation before engaging respawn.

These cheaters should be banned for rigging/bending Tournament Contest rules, especially since the current Infinity Challenge cheat tactics are rising in occurrence and no longer isolated cases. If the success of all other online Gaming Tournaments are to proliferate to any significant Marketable degree, now is the time to crack down on cheaters. Eventually, no one will want to invest days, weeks, even hours in Contesting online if the stigma of cheating {real or imagined} takes hold. -Yoink!- Gaming has a responsibility to uphold fairness at the risk of ruining marketable Gaming for other groups sure to follow.

On some other Halo forum someone said your basically cursed if u win the Truck - as with IRS/Federal taxes will cost around $27,000+ to “win” it.

Isn’t 343 or the Sponsor (Arnold’s new movie) going to cover these outrageous expenses for the winner to actually claim the Truck??

If not, who can claim the truck?? -(Halo’s majority player audience are young people who don’t have $20K+ to lose in “winning” a prize.
If the “grand prize winner” is required to pay $20K+ to claim the prize they spent their whole week killing himself playing Halo 24/7 to earn - this is a scam (as they are offering a prize that can not be claimed).

Please someone confirm whether or not the extreme fees required to claim the truck will be covered for the winner…