I played 20 BTB games last 40 hours and I haven’t seen tank or wraith ! I just saw banshee twice and I didn’t have the opportunity to ride it !
I never wanna play BTB again it’s not fun at all. even if I saw tank or wraith I probably couldn’t get my hands on it because there are 24 other players thirsty for riding those.
beside that, whenever I saw a banshee or a wasp, it destroyed 30s after it dropped !
this game mode is broken.
343i has to change it as soon as possible or they’ll lose their players in a month.
let me know what you think.
do you like it they way it is or you think it has to change ?
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I’ve seen a couple of tanks/ wraiths. A few Banshees and a wasp (still trying to splatter people with a chopper to no joy). I don’t know if it’s random or if it depends on the map.
After all, this is a beta, so hopefully there will be a few adjustments down the road to help with vehicle spawning. Plus, once the forge comes out, there will be all manner of community creations to come out of those brilliant minds. 
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I would not call the game mode broken, but I agree on the vehicle spawning. The older games did it much better.
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The broken part is I have a weekly challenge to destroy a wraith… after playing about 20 btb games I’ve only seen one spawn and I was driving it.
If it takes that many games to spawn a wraith, and only one of the 24 players in that game will get the kill, the odds of finishing that challenge are damn near impossible to complete in a week with current settings. At least in prior btb iterations I could be fairly certain I’d get at least one or two attempts to kill a wraith per game if the map spawned them. Also doesn’t help that we don’t really have a dedicated heavy vehicle killer like the Splaser that I could hold on to so I could kill it when it does spawn.
Honestly that challenge makes no sense in the current game settings & has completely turned me against the whole ultimate challenge unlock idea. And I’m sure as hell not paying for a swap to switch it out, I’ve heard several of the other challenges are straight up broken or impossible (splatter 5 spartans with the repulsor… what?).
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As I said after the BTB Flight, I think the Pelican Drop is a very bad addition to BTB.
Including the Flight I have seen exactly four Scorpions and one Wraith.
I understand the idea of a more immersive battlefield with vehicles being resupplied with a Pelican instead of magically appearing out of thin air but the current “Power Vehicle Progression” that should bring “more epic moments the longer the game is” is just wrong on every possible level.
There aren’t epic moments precisely because of the system for the vast majority of time as for the most part we are stuck with just some Warthog and nothing more. When some vehicle comes up nine times out of ten its a Gungoose or it is destroyed almost instantly because the enemy team has no reason to use its power weapons because there are no vehicles around.
The Pelican also drops a single vehicle at a time so while in every other Halo we could use a Mantis, a Scorpion, a Wraith and a Banshee supporting each other and fighting the enemy vehicles we can now just hope to get one drop per team. This on top of having four more people per team.
The worst part (apart form 343 being told already during the Flight and deciding to wait for more feedback) is that it should be a very easy fix (depending on how well the engine works for map design): spawn every vehicle that should be on the map ad the beginning of the round and, after they have been destroyed, start a timer to resupply the vehicle with a Pelican Drop in its original spawn location.
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The reason why they put the challenge is to make you buy in game currency to and spend it to lvl up ! and also that’s why we don’t have diverse game modes to make you spend real money.
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The vehicle drops aren’t a terrible idea, I think they can be cool, but it shouldn’t be the primary way to get vehicles. When I play BTB I want to play a I want to play a fun, chaotic mode with banshees flying around and wraiths shooting plasma everywhere. There needs to be more base spawns.
As it stands now, BTB feels more like Warzone lite instead of BTB (IMO)
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just gonna post this here
The only mode that feels balanced is total control.
When it comes to slayer, ctf, stockpile(not played this one much), theyre too chaotic, sometimes nothing happens and then a moment later several people are cross map shooting you randomly. Total control works because it has area of interests you need to go to and it makes the combat more predictable.
BTB slayer, ctf etc in past halo’s work because of the vehicles. In the past, each team had half of their team in vehicles and they werent stopped easily. protecting your vehicles from infantry was kind of the objective. taking out an enemy vehicle was like taking a piece out on the chess board and meant something.
another thing vehicles do, especially team vehicles is group people together and make the battlefield more predictable as well as create focal points as its hard to not know where vehicles are.
12v12 infantry combat works for total control and that will be what I play on launch(hopefully i have the choice) I played btb a lot in flights, some in this beta and i rarely get a good vehicle, I would like to enjoy good regular vehicle combat in btb.
So please start slayer and ctf with lots of powerful vehicles again
a good idea for ctf would make it round based and reset the map after each flag capture so that vehicles reset and there is less snowball effect.
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Yeah pelican spawns make no sense, they should only be there to resupply or create chaos, say like it drops two more scorpion tanks on-top of the two already on the field. All vehicles should spawn off the bat, idk why this is such a difficult concept for 343 to grasp
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I 100% agree all vehicles should spawn in on the home bases, ive played 13hrs, seen 2 scorpions and 1 wrath.
Had one Scorpion that survived for a couple minutes and the rest are instantly destroyed as both teams run for them and who ever gets in the vehicles the other team hyjack and granade it then its dead all before someone car even get a shot off with one.
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do you like it they way it is or you think it has to change ?
It has to change. BTB should be the game mode for heavy weapons and vehicles and big maps and chaos, etc. With the current rarity of heavier vehicles, it’s not that.
343 has responded by saying they made BTB this way because they:
…believe the progression of power as better and better vehicles spawn in allows for the end of matches to feel like bigger moments.
But I would say it’s not a “big moment” when all the heavy vehicle play during a BTB match consists of a tank that somebody used for 10 seconds before getting destroyed because it didn’t spawn in a safe place. If 343 insists on keeping this vehicle power progression mechanic in BTB, then I suggest they add a Heavies variant of BTB where vehicles spawn the way they used to.
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