With vehicles made out of paper… fantastic…
I really hope that before Castle releases they buff Warthog health or make is so you only spawn with one plasma grenade and 1 frag if you select that.
Otherwise this map pack will be as quickly shunned as Crimson was.
Also I saw that they had a Mantis in at least one of the maps. I don’t know about everyone else but I have not played any games where I thought the Mantis made it more fun.
I really don’t like the Mantis much.
> With vehicles made out of paper… fantastic…
>
> I really hope that before Castle releases they buff Warthog health or make is so you only spawn with one plasma grenade and 1 frag if you select that.
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> Otherwise this map pack will be as quickly shunned as Crimson was.
>
> Also I saw that they had a Mantis in at least one of the maps. I don’t know about everyone else but I have not played any games where I thought the Mantis made it more fun.
What concerns me is that Major Nelson talks about Mantis v Wraith battles LMFAO. IMO, the Wraith is the weakest vehicle in Halo 4. Unless the Wraith and LAAG are improved, I won’t be using them on the Castle Maps until the Mantis is destroyed at least and control of its re-spawn has been secured by our side.
Agreed, they need to do something with their vehicles. They’re too weak IMO (don’t know if many people will agree with me on this).
If the map pack is gonna be vehicle-focused, then 343 needs to focus on fixing their vehicles. Vehicle-play has been destroyed in Halo 4. I can’t have fun in a Warthog because I’ll get blown up the second I get in it.
At least the Castle map pack will finally give us a second map to use the Scorpion and Banshee. Before, they were only on one map.
Scorpion - Exile
Banshee - Ragnarok
Agreed, vehicles are suicide as long as people can spawn with plasma nades & pistol. Even if you have operator any smart player can stuck you. And also with so many weapons from Infinity slayer vehicles are pointless.
> With vehicles made out of paper… fantastic…
>
> I really hope that before Castle releases they buff Warthog health or make is so you only spawn with one plasma grenade and 1 frag if you select that.
>
> Otherwise this map pack will be as quickly shunned as Crimson was.
>
> Also I saw that they had a Mantis in at least one of the maps. I don’t know about everyone else but I have not played any games where I thought the Mantis made it more fun.
If you want paper vehicles, go to reach. I see Halo 4’s vehicles a bit tougher.
It just saddens me how I never use vehicles anymore due to the fact that everyone has a plasma pistol, plasma grenades, and jetpack to smash the vehicles. Now everyone just camo-snipes in big team battle.
With everyone spawning with rifles that shred everything plus PP plus plasma nades, who gets in vehicles anymore?
you guys aren’t using vehicles right
i agree they need a good buff
but they’re not completly useless
i can rack up a good 12 kills on a LAAG hog, go on Frenzies in the mantis, and deal some 5-6 kills in a ghost
They need to either make it so you only carry one Plasma Grenade like with the Pulse Grenade unless you have the Grenadier perk on. Also they should make it so the Plasma Pistol slows vehicles down rather than stopping them completely (like Battlefield 3 does with disabled vehicles).
> but they’re not completly useless
>
> i can rack up a good 12 kills on a LAAG hog, go on Frenzies in the mantis, and deal some 5-6 kills in a ghost
5-6 kills in a ghost?
Oh man that’s impressive…except I can do that with the DMR I spawn with.
Mantis is mostly fine.
LAAG has something the standard warthog doesn’t: Rockets. It has low HP but has high fire power to compensate.
And unfortunately the LAAG is only on a single map even though it’s decent.
> they should make it so the Plasma Pistol slows vehicles down rather than stopping them completely (like Battlefield 3 does with disabled vehicles).
good idea…
> you guys aren’t using vehicles right
>
> i agree they need a good buff
> but they’re not completly useless
>
> i can rack up a good 12 kills on a LAAG hog, go on Frenzies in the mantis, and deal some 5-6 kills in a ghost
I actually go for the Manthis, Gauss, Banshee. And my best spree with those has been of 32 but guess what, I got EMPed and stuck eventually… and 70% of the time is like that, the rest is from the many powerweapons on infinity.
> > but they’re not completly useless
> >
> > i can rack up a good 12 kills on a LAAG hog, go on Frenzies in the mantis, and deal some 5-6 kills in a ghost
>
> 5-6 kills in a ghost?
>
> Oh man that’s impressive…except I can do that with the DMR I spawn with.
i don’t use the DMR
and i don’t get to use the ghost much, people always take it before me
> LAAG has something the standard warthog doesn’t: Rockets. It has low HP but had high fire power to compensate.
>
> And unfortunately the LAAG is only on a single map even though it’s decent.
facepalm
i’m sorry, but are we on the same page here?
LAAG:
Light
Anti
Aircraft
Gun
when i say LAAG, i mean the standard, default warthog
where did you get Rockets out of LAAG?
Just thought that was what people called the Rocket Hog now, I’ve never heard anyone refer to the normal warthog as LAAG.
In which case, you can’t be serious. The Chainhog has horrible damage coupled with bloom and low health.
Edit: Wait, I have, but man that was ages ago.
> > With vehicles made out of paper… fantastic…
> >
> > I really hope that before Castle releases they buff Warthog health or make is so you only spawn with one plasma grenade and 1 frag if you select that.
> >
> > Otherwise this map pack will be as quickly shunned as Crimson was.
> >
> > Also I saw that they had a Mantis in at least one of the maps. I don’t know about everyone else but I have not played any games where I thought the Mantis made it more fun.
>
> If you want paper vehicles, go to reach. I see Halo 4’s vehicles a bit tougher.
They are weaker until you have the Wheelman mod and Explosives mod for driver and Gunner and Shielding for the gunner.
Having about 4500 Wheelman’s and having destroyed about 4900 vehicles, I know the strengths and weaknesses. If I’m on foot and I know what to do to take a vehicle out and if I’m in a vehicle I know what to do to make it survive longer. That’s all that really matters.
> > > but they’re not completly useless
> > >
> > > i can rack up a good 12 kills on a LAAG hog, go on Frenzies in the mantis, and deal some 5-6 kills in a ghost
> >
> > 5-6 kills in a ghost?
> >
> > Oh man that’s impressive…except I can do that with the DMR I spawn with.
>
> i don’t use the DMR
> and i don’t get to use the ghost much, people always take it before me
>
>
>
>
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> > LAAG has something the standard warthog doesn’t: Rockets. It has low HP but had high fire power to compensate.
> >
> > And unfortunately the LAAG is only on a single map even though it’s decent.
>
> facepalm
>
> i’m sorry, but are we on the same page here?
>
> LAAG:
> Light
> Anti
> Aircraft
> Gun
>
> when i say LAAG, i mean the standard, default warthog
> where did you get Rockets out of LAAG?
LMAO…now, that was funny.
> > > With vehicles made out of paper… fantastic…
> > >
> > > I really hope that before Castle releases they buff Warthog health or make is so you only spawn with one plasma grenade and 1 frag if you select that.
> > >
> > > Otherwise this map pack will be as quickly shunned as Crimson was.
> > >
> > > Also I saw that they had a Mantis in at least one of the maps. I don’t know about everyone else but I have not played any games where I thought the Mantis made it more fun.
> >
> > If you want paper vehicles, go to reach. I see Halo 4’s vehicles a bit tougher.
>
> They are weaker until you have the Wheelman mod and Explosives mod for driver and Gunner and Shielding for the gunner.
>
> Having about 4500 Wheelman’s and having destroyed about 4900 vehicles, I know the strengths and weaknesses. If I’m on foot and I know what to do to take a vehicle out and if I’m in a vehicle I know what to do to make it survive longer. That’s all that really matters.
2 questions:
and 2. do you actually have success as a gunner?
all the drivers i find in H4 are complete morons
jus’ asking
Hopefully thry look into vehicle balance alongside a TU inApril.
If they want vehicle based maps, they definetly need to make sure vehicles are the actual dominant ones, so easy PP and PG killing wiping out the vehicles are going to ruin it.
I find the vehicles useful at times, but overall they do need a buff.
> I really don’t like the Mantis much.
When used right, the mantis can be cool. It’s a one man weapon system with guns and rockets, balanced with slow mobility, but mobility none the less. Like all good weapons it has its weaknesses and strengths, and thus has its proper role on some maps (not all maps).