Carbine gets no love?

Alright I see a huge amount of people comparing the DMR to the BR saying that the DMR is over powered. I feel that in all honesty this is correct.
The DMR has the furthest range of 3 basic precision rifles (not including the power weapons) and also seems to have a farther zoom.

With this it makes playing big team too easy, which makes me dislike the weapon by itself and refuse to play with it. And i never liked the BR so… then there is the carbine. The rapid fire one. I understand its power, does less damage overall with each shot but does a decent amount, although it has absolutely no competition with the DMR or BR at a far range (I’ve been able to wipe out most in close range fights).
Carbine seems to have the shortest zoom out of the 3, unless I’m mistaken.
I’m not usually much a complainer unless I start to get spawn killed… constantly… then i -Yoink- but other than that it doesn’t hurt.
Although I’m a HUGE fan of Big team, and big team requires long range. That’s the weak point. Also, I’ve seen maybe 1 or 2 carbines played OTHER than me a day.

The DMR is about… 60% of my deaths, in all game types.
So basically DMR overpowered (we all know this, its breaking the game at this point) and carbine, power is correct, but range is terrible. I believe that all the marksman rifles should be set to the same zoom ranges. To help those that like those certain type of guns. (I was a FAL and M14 fan on COD, when i played it)

Carbine is the only gun I use. Check my stats. Carbine has the fastest kill times of all the starter weapons.

It also has the least zoom and least aim assist. As long as all your shots hit and you make your last shot a head shot you will ALWAYS out shoot your opponent.

The carbine by far requires the most skill of all the starting weapons.

> Carbine is the only gun I use. Check my stats. Carbine has the fastest kill times of all the starter weapons.
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> It also has the least zoom and least aim assist. As long as all your shots hit and you make your last shot a head shot you will ALWAYS out shoot your opponent.
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> The carbine by far requires the most skill of all the starting weapons.

Not sure, if your letter size is catering to those who has poor eye sight, but I don’t think you need it that big.

On Topic: Where’s the Light Rifle in all this?

That post… lol its hard to tell whether you are on my side or not. All I’m saying is the carbine needs to get the same zoom as the DMR along with the BR. They are all considered marksman rifles so why does the DMR get special treatment?

> That post… lol its hard to tell whether you are on my side or not. All I’m saying is the carbine needs to get the same zoom as the DMR along with the BR. They are all considered marksman rifles so why does the DMR get special treatment?

If the carbine gets the same zoom as the other rifles, it will be grossly over powered. As it stands the shorter range helps limit this faster kill weapon from engaging other at range. Allowing it that range will pretty much make every other weapon useless.

> > That post… lol its hard to tell whether you are on my side or not. All I’m saying is the carbine needs to get the same zoom as the DMR along with the BR. They are all considered marksman rifles so why does the DMR get special treatment?
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> If the carbine gets the same zoom as the other rifles, it will be grossly over powered. As it stands the shorter range helps limit this faster kill weapon from engaging other at range. Allowing it that range will pretty much make every other weapon useless.

in all honesty i disagree with you. Try playing a DMR and a Carbine where the DMR has red on its rectile and the carbine does not in a long range battle. I’ll give u a 97% change that the DMR will win. Unless the dmr dude is just terrible. A DMR v Carbine, due to the flinch, makes it near impossible for carbine to win. DMR will follow movements (aim assist) while the carbine will not have such luxury. I understand it requires more skill, which is why either the DMR should have a decrease, or the carbine has an increase. Even with the rate of fire a carbine does very little damage. and the amount of shots you can fire with that is actually out done by the DMR. If it was a skilled DMR player vs a skilled Carbine player, the DMR player would always win.

I must disagree with you. I have 1175 kills with the Carbine. And 7/10 my kills are me out shooting a DMR or BR. Flinch is easy to combat by pulling down on the joystick. The only shootouts I lose are those that are outside of my carbine’s effective range, or poor aiming and missing one or two shots. It is absolutely crucial that all shots make contact.

You just have to play smart and avoid 2 v 1 engagements and stay in the carbine’s range. Use the shield or camo to get closer. Use the turret to complement and assist your carbine. The turret even landing one shot on your target guarantees a victory in your favor.

The turret + carbine makes you a one man army. Especially in bottle necks.

> I must disagree with you. I have 1175 kills with the Carbine. And 7/10 my kills are me out shooting a DMR or BR. Flinch is easy to combat by pulling down on the joystick. The only shootouts I lose are those that are outside of my carbine’s effective range, or poor aiming and missing one or two shots. It is absolutely crucial that all shots make contact.
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> You just have to play smart and avoid 2 v 1 engagements and stay in the carbine’s range. Use the shield or camo to get closer. Use the turret to complement and assist your carbine. The turret even landing one shot on your target guarantees a victory in your favor.
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> The turret + carbine makes you a one man army. Especially in bottle necks.

Thats good and all. But the Carbine really feels like a chore to get kills with.

And even when I land most of my shots, it still seems to take forever to kill someone. Its awesome if you Carbine users found some magical way to use it…

…but I’m just not seeing it. I always see DMR, BR and Light Rifles outshooting them.

I find my usage of the Carbine to be lacking. I am going to be blunt; i am not going to stroke your Carbine ego because i’ve tried the gun and i find myself at disadvantage against BRs/DMRs. If you’ve played any one good, this becomes quite evident. Fast of ROF does not make up weak damage per projectile. That’s like saying Quantity > Quality.

It’s just my personal experience, my playstyle just doesn’t think fast ROF is enough to justify using the Carbine. It only kills one frame faster than DMR but lacks the range or power of it.

^ I also use the Sentry + Carbine. This combo works wonders^

It works best on smaller maps like haven.

I died alot when i first used it but after about 10 or so games it’s now my favorite. Just play with it for awhile and you will get the hang of it.

> Carbine is the only gun I use. Check my stats. Carbine has the fastest kill times of all the starter weapons.
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> It also has the least zoom and least aim assist. As long as all your shots hit and you make your last shot a head shot you will ALWAYS out shoot your opponent.
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> The carbine by far requires the most skill of all the starting weapons.

Bull crap. THe carbine is what I started with to hone my headshot skills. Then I switched to the DMR, went up from there, and now if I am not playing swat I am using a light rifle.