I just read some stuff about Captain Osman and her UNSC forces leading an attack and causing disruption within Elite soceity. Why would they do this? The Elites at this point are supposed to be allies with the humans. Why try to screw them up?
Read from Glasslands.
You are very obviously unaware, that the Covenant in halo 4 were not part of the main forces that you fought in Halo: Reach - 3…
They are renegade forces, and are very much hateful towards Humans.
You apparently didn’t catch what I said. I read this in Halo GLASSLANDS. Osman even gave Elite forces weapons so they could start a civil war with the Arbiter to cause disruption. Read before you post.
> I just read some stuff about Captain Osman and her UNSC forces leading an attack and causing disruption within Elite soceity. Why would they do this? The Elites at this point are supposed to be allies with the humans. Why try to screw them up?
> Read from Glasslands.
Did you read Glasslands? It doesn’t specifically give you the x, y and Z’s of it, but its pretty easy to figure out…
> > I just read some stuff about Captain Osman and her UNSC forces leading an attack and causing disruption within Elite soceity. Why would they do this? The Elites at this point are supposed to be allies with the humans. Why try to screw them up?
> > Read from Glasslands.
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> Did you read Glasslands? It doesn’t specifically give you the x, y and Z’s of it, but its pretty easy to figure out…
No, that is why I am asking. What is the purpose of them trying to cause discord within the Sanghelli society?
This Book is set just after the events of H3.
In Halo 3 we were led to believe that all Elites are on our side, this is not the case.
There are some Elites out there that still hold true to their old “covvie” ways, and there are the Arbiter supporters who like us.
What ONI is doing is…
In fact while typing this, other people have beaten me to it.
Bottom line, if you dont get why they are doing this by that point in the book, put it down mate.
Or read slower so you take more in.
Also the weapons were “marked” so the UNSC could track them - see where they end up.
Read the book again cuz alot of the elites wanna go back and wipe out humanity while the arbiter is trying to create a covennt free society all the have is warriors when they need farmers and whatnot
Because ONI want’s to keep the Elites weak for as long as possible so that humanity can re-cooperate after the war before putting them down for good. Apparently ONI does whatever the hell it wants now, no matter how stupid.
On top of this, it seems that it’s for good reason. Turns out the Elites plan to wipe us out too! Yay! More contradictions. Thanks K. Traviss.
> This Book is set just after the events of H3.
> In Halo 3 we were led to believe that all Elites are on our side, this is not the case.
> There are some Elites out there that still hold true to their old “covvie” ways, and there are the Arbiter supporters who like us.
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> What ONI is doing is…
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> In fact while typing this, other people have beaten me to it.
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> Bottom line, if you dont get why they are doing this by that point in the book, put it down mate.
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> Or read slower so you take more in.
I just said I haven’t read it. Don’t plan on it. I just like reading summarized plots to get some backstory. Why is ONI doing this?
You have been answered a few times already. Read back.
I like how Thursday war makes all the “kill all human, we are planet of hat” elites the GOOD guys. Great job there traviss.
Frankly, it’s all contrived. I get it’s to disrupt the Elites so they don’t pose a threat to humanity, but the ones who would wish to harm humanity are in the minority. Avu Med 'Telcam doesn’t necessarily hate humans, he is after all dealing with them for weapons, but his ideology is far, far too radical. And yet ONI picks to support him instead of building a bridge of support with the Arbiter, the Elite who came to humanities aid and holds a lot of sway within Elite society.
Still though, neither ‘Telcam’s side nor the Arbiter’s side will become the Storm Covenant. I do have an explanation, but since it involves a leak from an as of yet unreleased book, Glasslands’ sequel, I don’t want to say it and get banned.
Look man, if you want to find out what happened go read the book. Seriously don’t be lazy. People aren’t going to tell you everything, nor should they. If they do so, it’s because they want to. Don’t expect people to do it.
But here is the most basic summary because I highly doubt you’ll get off your -Yoink- and read the book.
ONI wants to keep the Elites weak by letting them fight among themselves. Therefore they are supplying the faction that disagrees with the Arbiter to prolong the war.
Basically it’s Pro-human Elites vs Anti-human Elites, and ONI gave the Anti-Human Elites some help so that their civil war can go longer.
Why? So Humanity has time to rebuild and squash them.
> I just read some stuff about Captain Osman and her UNSC forces leading an attack and causing disruption within Elite soceity. Why would they do this? The Elites at this point are supposed to be allies with the humans. Why try to screw them up?
> Read from Glasslands.
She’s doing this because ONI doesn’t believe that the Arbiter will be able to control all the Elites. As has been proven, there are Elite forces that do not want peace with the Human, and others that have their own agenda’s to fill.
Even aside from the complexities that involve the fact that not all of the humans and not all of the Elites believe in the and are working towards the same things, at a higher level, the humans and Elites are in a cold war. They’re allies on paper, but they don’t trust each other and they very much fear each other.
Look at it from game theory perspective. They both know that the best possible outcome is for both species to work together cooperatively. The worst outcome is if the other species, for whatever reason, takes some action to harm you and you have come up with no way to inhibit their capability, ensure your capabilities, or attack, or defend.
The “middle” outcome is if you assume that you need to prepare yourselves and perhaps sabatoge the others. In this case, if the other species is perfectly peaceful, then you’ll be in a much better position than they are, and you won’t risk loss. If the scenario is worse, that is, if they also don’t trust you and are prepared for war, spying, etc, then at least you’re not caught defenseless.
So given that neither side feels that they can fully trust each other, then the “safest” course of action is the kind of cold war activities you see in Glasslands. The safest course of action is to shoot for the “middle” outcome.
The way they can avoid this is to build trust. So then it becomes a matter of if the cooler heads in the political arenas of either species will prevail or not.
> Frankly, it’s all contrived. I get it’s to disrupt the Elites so they don’t pose a threat to humanity, but the ones who would wish to harm humanity are in the minority.
The humans don’t really know this, or at least that can’t be 100% sure of this, and the same goes for the Elites. Some may hope for the best, but the pragmatic want to put themselves in the best position assuming the worst. If you feel the preeminence of your own species is more important than peace, then this is a sensible position if you don’t think that you can know the other species with 100% certainty.
Hood and Arbiter agreed to a non aggression treaty. They aren’t allies.
> This Book is set just after the events of H3.
> In Halo 3 we were led to believe that all Elites are on our side, this is not the case.
Anyone who read Ghosts of Onyx should have known this was untrue. The Elite separatists who were unaware the Arbiter was still alive continued their aggressions towards Humanity. Even after hearing the Prophet’s lies they still had a desire to hunt down the Demons and prevent them from getting a hold of Forerunner technology. They left the Great Schism to hunt them down and stop them.
Only the Arbiter was able to convince the Elites working with Humans was beneficial. Had he not been there the Elites may have continued the fight.
> > This Book is set just after the events of H3.
> > In Halo 3 we were led to believe that all Elites are on our side, this is not the case.
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> Anyone who read Ghosts of Onyx should have known this was untrue. The Elite separatists who were unaware the Arbiter was still alive continued their aggressions towards Humanity. Even after hearing the Prophet’s lies they still had a desire to hunt down the Demons and prevent them from getting a hold of Forerunner technology. They left the Great Schism to hunt them down and stop them.
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> Only the Arbiter was able to convince the Elites working with Humans was beneficial. Had he not been there the Elites may have continued the fight.
I dont think he’s read any of them…