Okay, so I’m pointing out a pretty petty and mild discrepancy, but one that annoyed me. And it can’t be any worse than the “Master Chief vs. Abe Lincoln” or “Halo Universe vs. Fraggle Rock” or whatever type of posts are always here …
So here we go:
In Halo Initiation, Sarah Palmer says “All I remember for sure at this point is that I signed a hell of a lot of paperwork. I don’t even remember the last time I saw a piece of paper outside of a museum …”
So paper is obsolete in the future except for super-official stuff.
So explain this:
It’s Paper … everywhere.
And I don’t want to hear “That’s not really paper, it’s sheets of fancy future acrylic writing rectangles” either.
IMO,Initiation was terribly written, and it’s filled with little things like this that make no sense (I’m sorry I just can’t buy that Ilsa Zane can survive in a vacuum with no armor.)
I’ll just forget these little discrepancies.
> IMO,Initiation was terribly written, and it’s filled with little things like this that make no sense (I’m sorry I just can’t buy that Ilsa Zane can survive in a vacuum with no armor.)
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> I’ll just forget these little discrepancies.
I agree completely. I just wanted to see if it annoyed people as much as me. I hate ignoring discrepancies though.
the writers 343 keeps hiring (save greg bear) are stupid aand they are hoping we don’t notice.
I think it should be a requirement, if you want to write a halo novel or comic, that you have played all the games and read all the books.
You sure it’s actual paper? The number of times I’ve shot at it with Covenant weapons and saw the ground hit with grenades and Wraith mortars and that stuff just doesn’t catch fire or burn… 
> You sure it’s actual paper? The number of times I’ve shot at it with Covenant weapons and saw the ground hit with grenades and Wraith mortars and that stuff just doesn’t catch fire or burn…
You mean Future Space Parchment? Of course!
> IMO,Initiation was terribly written, and it’s filled with little things like this that make no sense (I’m sorry I just can’t buy that Ilsa Zane can survive in a vacuum with no armor.)
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> I’ll just forget these little discrepancies.
Well, the original goal was to create Spartans that didn’t rely on MJOLNIR armor, so perhaps her body was enhanced to be able to endure the pressures of space, and to conserve minimal amounts of oxygen in hazardous environments. Not out of the question, since the IVs can allegedly breathe methane for almost an hour.
As for the paper thing, it’s probably just a minor discrepancy. Palmer could have just been making a joke on how obsolete it’s becoming.
> > IMO,Initiation was terribly written, and it’s filled with little things like this that make no sense (I’m sorry I just can’t buy that Ilsa Zane can survive in a vacuum with no armor.)
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> > I’ll just forget these little discrepancies.
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> Well, the original goal was to create Spartans that didn’t rely on MJOLNIR armor, so perhaps her body was enhanced to be able to endure the pressures of space, and to conserve minimal amounts of oxygen in hazardous environments. Not out of the question, since the IVs can allegedly breathe methane for almost an hour.
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> <mark>As for the paper thing, it’s probably just a minor discrepancy. Palmer could have just been making a joke on how obsolete it’s becoming.
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> That just might actually work
> IMO,Initiation was terribly written, and it’s filled with little things like this that make no sense (I’m sorry I just can’t buy that Ilsa Zane can survive in a vacuum with no armor.)
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> I’ll just forget these little discrepancies.
This. I didn’t even bother getting it after the feedback I heard.
> This. I didn’t even bother getting it after the feedback I heard.
FWIW I didn’t think the story was terrible, I just thought there were a ton of little physics things that didn’t make sense, and hadn’t actually noticed or thought about this specifically.
And Escalation 1 was pretty good.
> the writers 343 keeps hiring (save greg bear) are stupid aand they are hoping we don’t notice.
>
> I think it should be a requirement, if you want to write a halo novel or comic, that you have played all the games and read all the books.
Only then that cuts your list of potential writers by 90% at least. To describe finding an excellent writer who’s played ALL the games and read ALL the books as difficult would be a drastic understatement - it’s a one in a million chance.
They should just have a knowledge of the canon that won’t result in them butchering the characters or universe, that would be a Traviss-ty.
> > You sure it’s actual paper? The number of times I’ve shot at it with Covenant weapons and saw the ground hit with grenades and Wraith mortars and that stuff just doesn’t catch fire or burn…
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> You mean Future Space Parchment? Of course!
Technically…
In the year 2274, there was a new Act called the “Save The Resources Act”, which made it illegal to make paper from trees on Earth, due to lesser and lesser trees being on Earth. Wildlife population had been cut in half, and breathing became harder on Earth (not to mention all the factories, cars, etc… that affected the atmosphere). Even though Mars had been terraformed and Humans had lived there since 2080, the Act was still in effect, because some of the resources had to be sent to Earth.
When Humanity discovered new planets, they found new types of trees, and were able to make new forms of paper, thus making what you call “Future Space Parchment”. For the next 300 years, Humanity used “Future Space Parchment”. Paper became a thing of the past, and the paper that was left was put into museums to remind Humans of their past about how they almost burnt all their oxygen sources and nearly suffocated themselves to death.
So, going back to topic, the paper you see in Reach are, in fact, “Future Space Parchment”, and that’s also why Palmer hasn’t actually seen Earth paper outside of museums. The more you know.
> > > You sure it’s actual paper? The number of times I’ve shot at it with Covenant weapons and saw the ground hit with grenades and Wraith mortars and that stuff just doesn’t catch fire or burn…
> >
> > You mean Future Space Parchment? Of course!
>
> Technically…
>
> In the year 2274, there was a new Act called the “Save The Resources Act”, which made it illegal to make paper from trees on Earth, due to lesser and lesser trees being on Earth. Wildlife population had been cut in half, and breathing became harder on Earth (not to mention all the factories, cars, etc… that affected the atmosphere). Even though Mars had been terraformed and Humans had lived there since 2080, the Act was still in effect, because some of the resources had to be sent to Earth.
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> When Humanity discovered new planets, they found new types of trees, and were able to make new forms of paper, thus making what you call “Future Space Parchment”. For the next 300 years, Humanity used “Future Space Parchment”. Paper became a thing of the past, and the paper that was left was put into museums to remind Humans of their past about how they almost burnt all their oxygen sources and nearly suffocated themselves to death.
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> So, going back to topic, the paper you see in Reach are, in fact, “Future Space Parchment”, and that’s also why Palmer hasn’t actually seen Earth paper outside of museums. The more you know.
Hooray! You did it! That’s exactly what I was looking for. You win! There is always someone out there to answer the most far-reaching and asinine little canonical quandaries I can think of. I’m being serious here, nicely done.
> They should just have a knowledge of the canon that won’t result in them butchering the characters or universe, that would be a Traviss-ty.
I really doubt a mistake about paper could be considered butchering.
I mean, right now paper is on the way out, though still has a quite a few years before fully doing so. In 500 years, though, it will likely be a novelty item. The problem is, paper makes a great way to convey a trashed area, as opposed to what…broken iPads?
> > > > You sure it’s actual paper? The number of times I’ve shot at it with Covenant weapons and saw the ground hit with grenades and Wraith mortars and that stuff just doesn’t catch fire or burn…
> > >
> > > You mean Future Space Parchment? Of course!
> >
> > Technically…
> >
> > In the year 2274, there was a new Act called the “Save The Resources Act”, which made it illegal to make paper from trees on Earth, due to lesser and lesser trees being on Earth. Wildlife population had been cut in half, and breathing became harder on Earth (not to mention all the factories, cars, etc… that affected the atmosphere). Even though Mars had been terraformed and Humans had lived there since 2080, the Act was still in effect, because some of the resources had to be sent to Earth.
> >
> > When Humanity discovered new planets, they found new types of trees, and were able to make new forms of paper, thus making what you call “Future Space Parchment”. For the next 300 years, Humanity used “Future Space Parchment”. Paper became a thing of the past, and the paper that was left was put into museums to remind Humans of their past about how they almost burnt all their oxygen sources and nearly suffocated themselves to death.
> >
> > So, going back to topic, the paper you see in Reach are, in fact, “Future Space Parchment”, and that’s also why Palmer hasn’t actually seen Earth paper outside of museums. The more you know.
>
> Hooray! You did it! That’s exactly what I was looking for. You win! There is always someone out there to answer the most far-reaching and asinine little canonical quandaries I can think of. I’m being serious here, nicely done.
Can I get a link for that info?
> > > > > You sure it’s actual paper? The number of times I’ve shot at it with Covenant weapons and saw the ground hit with grenades and Wraith mortars and that stuff just doesn’t catch fire or burn…
> > > >
> > > > You mean Future Space Parchment? Of course!
> > >
> > > Technically…
> > >
> > > In the year 2274, there was a new Act called the “Save The Resources Act”, which made it illegal to make paper from trees on Earth, due to lesser and lesser trees being on Earth. Wildlife population had been cut in half, and breathing became harder on Earth (not to mention all the factories, cars, etc… that affected the atmosphere). Even though Mars had been terraformed and Humans had lived there since 2080, the Act was still in effect, because some of the resources had to be sent to Earth.
> > >
> > > When Humanity discovered new planets, they found new types of trees, and were able to make new forms of paper, thus making what you call “Future Space Parchment”. For the next 300 years, Humanity used “Future Space Parchment”. Paper became a thing of the past, and the paper that was left was put into museums to remind Humans of their past about how they almost burnt all their oxygen sources and nearly suffocated themselves to death.
> > >
> > > So, going back to topic, the paper you see in Reach are, in fact, “Future Space Parchment”, and that’s also why Palmer hasn’t actually seen Earth paper outside of museums. The more you know.
> >
> > Hooray! You did it! That’s exactly what I was looking for. You win! There is always someone out there to answer the most far-reaching and asinine little canonical quandaries I can think of. I’m being serious here, nicely done.
>
> Can I get a link for that info?
It’s made up
> > > > > > You sure it’s actual paper? The number of times I’ve shot at it with Covenant weapons and saw the ground hit with grenades and Wraith mortars and that stuff just doesn’t catch fire or burn…
> > > > >
> > > > > You mean Future Space Parchment? Of course!
> > > >
> > > > Technically…
> > > >
> > > > In the year 2274, there was a new Act called the “Save The Resources Act”, which made it illegal to make paper from trees on Earth, due to lesser and lesser trees being on Earth. Wildlife population had been cut in half, and breathing became harder on Earth (not to mention all the factories, cars, etc… that affected the atmosphere). Even though Mars had been terraformed and Humans had lived there since 2080, the Act was still in effect, because some of the resources had to be sent to Earth.
> > > >
> > > > When Humanity discovered new planets, they found new types of trees, and were able to make new forms of paper, thus making what you call “Future Space Parchment”. For the next 300 years, Humanity used “Future Space Parchment”. Paper became a thing of the past, and the paper that was left was put into museums to remind Humans of their past about how they almost burnt all their oxygen sources and nearly suffocated themselves to death.
> > > >
> > > > So, going back to topic, the paper you see in Reach are, in fact, “Future Space Parchment”, and that’s also why Palmer hasn’t actually seen Earth paper outside of museums. The more you know.
> > >
> > > Hooray! You did it! That’s exactly what I was looking for. You win! There is always someone out there to answer the most far-reaching and asinine little canonical quandaries I can think of. I’m being serious here, nicely done.
> >
> > Can I get a link for that info?
>
> It’s made up
Oh. Awww. 
> As for the paper thing, it’s probably just a minor discrepancy. Palmer could have just been making a joke on how obsolete it’s becoming.
She should probably stop making jokes.
> > As for the paper thing, it’s probably just a minor discrepancy. Palmer could have just been making a joke on how obsolete it’s becoming.
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> She should probably stop making jokes.
Oh, she’s okay.
> > > > > > > You sure it’s actual paper? The number of times I’ve shot at it with Covenant weapons and saw the ground hit with grenades and Wraith mortars and that stuff just doesn’t catch fire or burn…
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You mean Future Space Parchment? Of course!
> > > > >
> > > > > Technically…
> > > > >
> > > > > In the year 2274, there was a new Act called the “Save The Resources Act”, which made it illegal to make paper from trees on Earth, due to lesser and lesser trees being on Earth. Wildlife population had been cut in half, and breathing became harder on Earth (not to mention all the factories, cars, etc… that affected the atmosphere). Even though Mars had been terraformed and Humans had lived there since 2080, the Act was still in effect, because some of the resources had to be sent to Earth.
> > > > >
> > > > > When Humanity discovered new planets, they found new types of trees, and were able to make new forms of paper, thus making what you call “Future Space Parchment”. For the next 300 years, Humanity used “Future Space Parchment”. Paper became a thing of the past, and the paper that was left was put into museums to remind Humans of their past about how they almost burnt all their oxygen sources and nearly suffocated themselves to death.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, going back to topic, the paper you see in Reach are, in fact, “Future Space Parchment”, and that’s also why Palmer hasn’t actually seen Earth paper outside of museums. The more you know.
> > > >
> > > > Hooray! You did it! That’s exactly what I was looking for. You win! There is always someone out there to answer the most far-reaching and asinine little canonical quandaries I can think of. I’m being serious here, nicely done.
> > >
> > > Can I get a link for that info?
> >
> > It’s made up
>
> Oh. Awww.
It’s all made up. If there is no official answer for something as stupid as paper scraps, then let the person with the best imagination win, right?
When I read, hear, or observe something that doesn’t really make sense, I’ll rack my brain until I can come up with something that works.
I don’t know if physical copies of everything will disappear–books, music, documents, photos, movies, video games … they all seem to be, which is kind of sad. I’m not sure why, but it is.
