Can We Return of Super Units Such as The Grizzle?

Games Halo Wars Series
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I know we will have super units but I wonder if they are gonna be more effect and more of a game changer. Lets be honest the multiplayer is filled with grizzle rushers. They we have HAWK’s that I barely see used. Also we ODST are really the best of Super Units they really are just to annoy the enemy. Covenant really didn’t have super units. Now befor you say “SCARB” Lets be honest that was a waste of 3000 supplies it was easily dealt with by trapping it with troops and then Mac the ever living crap out of it.

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I hope super units return as a team based thing, not leader. I personally found it annoying that some leaders on the UNSC got some stuff the others didn’t.

Leader abilities (MAC, cryo, carpet etc) should be what makes the player decide that leader.

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But power turret tanks are actually better than grizzlies…

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> But power turret tanks are actually better than grizzlies…

No, Power Turret just had superior canister shell. Grizzlies still had more HP and a higher damage main attack.

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> I know we will have super units but I wonder if they are gonna be more effect and more of a game changer. Lets be honest the multiplayer is filled with grizzle rushers. They we have HAWK’s that I barely see used. Also we ODST are really the best of Super Units they really are just to annoy the enemy. Covenant really didn’t have super units. Now befor you say “SCARB” Lets be honest that was a waste of 3000 supplies it was easily dealt with by trapping it with troops and then Mac the ever living crap out of it.

No one “rushed” to Grizzlies. That’s not what rushing is. Rushing is when you attack at an extremely early point in the game… Grizzlies require Tech level 4, which took generally 10+ minutes and only if you were completely unchallenged by your opponent.

Hawks and ODST’s both saw extensive usage and were effective if used properly. I’m not sure of why you didn’t see much of them.
Covenant didn’t have super units because they had perpetual leader power capabilities and a higher unit population limit.

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> > But power turret tanks are actually better than grizzlies…
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> No, Power Turret just had superior canister shell. Grizzlies still had more HP and a higher damage main attack.

Okay so do you not use canister shells?

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Yes, I’m just pointing out that Grizzlies were still superior to Power Turret overall. It’s not like Tanks’ only usefulness was in their canister shell.

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> Yes, I’m just pointing out that Grizzlies were still superior to Power Turret overall. It’s not like Tanks’ only usefulness was in their canister shell.

I disagree

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> I disagree

I don’t know where I can dig up the stats anymore, as the orignal Halo Wars forums are no-more and that’s where the link was. So I can’t really debate you any further on this. You are entitled to your opinion, and I to mine.

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So apparently the forums are still out there, but not accessible except through old links or google search. Anyways a quick search brought up an old post by Aloysius, a Mod from Robot. In it it details all unit stats w/ upgrades, etc via spreadsheet data.

This is after multiple updates, this may have been after the Grizzly/Power Turret inconsistancy was fixed…
Anyways, in it, Grizzly is in every category including canister shell more powerful
[Screenshot]

[Link to original Forum Post by Aloysius]
http://www.halowars.com/news/devblog/archive/2009/11/04/Halo-Wars-Unit-Stats.aspx

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ODSTs never gave off a super feel in every other Halo title except Halo Wars and ODST. Just something odd I noticed.

Would be pretty cool to see covenant faction leaders have different super units as well. One leader uses the scarab, another leader can create Brute Chieftans, and can’t really think of anything else. Maybe a scarab seems way more intimidating than a Chieftan…

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> So apparently the forums are still out there, but not accessible except through old links or google search. Anyways a quick search brought up an old post by Aloysius, a Mod from Robot. In it it details all unit stats w/ upgrades, etc via spreadsheet data.
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> This is after multiple updates, this may have been after the Grizzly/Power Turret inconsistancy was fixed…
> Anyways, in it, Grizzly is in every category including canister shell more powerful
> [Screenshot]
> http://i62.tinypic.com/2wr3ncy.png
> [Link to original Forum Post by Aloysius]
> Halo - Official Site (en)

It was never fixed. Power turret still beats grizzlies, those stats are wrong.

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> It was never fixed. Power turret still beats grizzlies, those stats are wrong.

Again, if I remember correctly, the Grizzly was nerfed later on (Yes, so these stats are now incorrect, my mistake). However, as these following threads all highlight, the PT only had better canister abilities vs vehicles, while the Grizzly had a better cannister vs infantry-type units, while still having more HP and a more powerful maingun attack.

[Halo Wars forum threads on the matter]