Can we please have paradiso back?

I HATE Utopie. Is there even a Sniper Rifle on it?

> I HATE Utopie. Is there even a Sniper Rifle on it?

It’s still in BTB, but it rarely comes up.

I mostly want Utopie removed :frowning:

Utopi sucks. There’s one sniper and one banshee, so who ever gets either of them wins the game. Paradiso needed some work, but at least it was balanced. each team got a banshee, and each team got a sniper. In general the weapon placement on paradiso is fine, it’s just the buildings that needed work. If they kept the Utopi buildings and just used Paradiso weapon placement then the map would be fine, but it’s just horribly balanced at this point.

Pretty much Utopi just isn’t fun, and you WILL lose if you don’t control the banshee (which is the definition of bad map design).

Where is the Sniper anyways?

Maybe if we get enough replies 343i will c this?

> Where is the Sniper anyways?

It’s where the grenade launcher spawned on the original map. The middle tunnel.

thanks

I find Utopie to be a much better variation. It’s not just a tank and Banshee battle at the beginning to decide the eventual winner of the match. Utopie has just one Banshee as a precious prize for the teams to fight over. The small bridge on the opposite side of the map has a Spartan Laser as the counter. Besides that, enough coordinated DMR shots from a team and the Banshee is short-lived anyway. The bases are better designed as well, more cover and just feel more symmetrical. The top of the mountain is restricted which prevents the DMR-spamming-from-above control point gameplay that was so contagious on Paradiso. The metal walkway on the left side and the natural plateau on the right are high and attainable enough.

Paradiso, really? It’s easily the second worse map in the game, only being beaten by Swordbase.

yeah. But now theres one map with Boneyard, Whcih isnt all that fun… At least put 1 on Blood gulch.